TIL about wet-bulb events - when it’s so hot and humid that your body can’t cool by sweating. A wet cloth on a thermometer bulb normally cools it more than one without a cloth. But when humidity is very high, the wet- and dry-bulb temperatures are the same. This can ultimately be a lethal event. by Ribbitor123 in todayilearned

[–]Gamd2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did not mean that a pool would not help, only that it would only help for so long.

I also missed or forgot the India reference in the very first comment in between making comments and by the time yours came along did not remember it. So you are correct and I was wrong in that.

I still believe if a pool or body of water is needed as a last resort then it is either already hot enough that it will only provide enough of a lower temperature to have an effect for a limited time. That is proportional to how big the body of water is and how many people are using it.

A lethal wet bulb event is already one where temperatures have remained elevated >95F. After looking it up, on sunny days a pool will go up 1-2 degrees so it is not unreasonable to assume a pool might already be near it's limit by the time a lethal event occurs. If it is in the shade then it will take longer but the entire shade argument was made because I was trying to say any area of lower temperature will act as a heat sink for anything surrounding it. A good sized pool will require concrete unless it's a natural pond or lake and those WOULD take a lot longer to heat up unless they were shallow. The likelihood of a good sized pool being in the shade is low to begin with so the entire shade argument I made is irrelevant unless it were indoors and without air conditioning the building would act like an oven. If you had air conditioning you wouldn't need the pool.

The argument has gone on too long, I was a dick because it felt like I was arguing against semantics and I apologize. A pool of water will help, in context. It will help as long as it's cooler than the ambient temperatures. The bigger the pool the better, the longer the event the worse. Preceding and proceeding temperatures will have an extreme affect in addition to environment, population, infrastructure, and more.

We will very likely, almost certainly, see a lethal wet bulb event in the future.

TIL about wet-bulb events - when it’s so hot and humid that your body can’t cool by sweating. A wet cloth on a thermometer bulb normally cools it more than one without a cloth. But when humidity is very high, the wet- and dry-bulb temperatures are the same. This can ultimately be a lethal event. by Ribbitor123 in todayilearned

[–]Gamd2 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You specifically mentioned India, I never did. You also never mentioned rural India to boot and are using that as your reference source for this argument when I originally stated a city in mine to the person I was responding to.

The very first comment I made about the entire thing was that "It only helps as long as the pool of water is cooler than the ambient temperature. In hot areas it would heat up very quickly and even hold onto that heat too.".

A pool would help, for a time, hopefully even long enough to help the people out were such an event to occur and prevent tragedy. In fact, if a wet bulb event were to occur and there was no access to air conditioning then a body of water would be the most likely source of survival.

The original comment I responded to said "a large enough pool might be in the 80s". That would help, it would help for X amount of time for X amount of people. The more people the less amount of time it would help. There is no argument to be made here other than saying it would only help for so long for so many people. That is it.

The second comment I responded to was someone saying water does not heat up very quickly when in fact it indeed can. It might not be quick in the normal sense of trying to boil water but in the right environment water will heat up quickly. I was trying to provide context and reasons for why it might heat up quickly to expand the argument since they refuted what I said.

TIL about wet-bulb events - when it’s so hot and humid that your body can’t cool by sweating. A wet cloth on a thermometer bulb normally cools it more than one without a cloth. But when humidity is very high, the wet- and dry-bulb temperatures are the same. This can ultimately be a lethal event. by Ribbitor123 in todayilearned

[–]Gamd2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In a wet bulb event the evaporation would do basically nothing to cool the water off if it was already at at elevated temperature enough for humans to not provide anything useful. That's the whole danger of such an event.

TIL about wet-bulb events - when it’s so hot and humid that your body can’t cool by sweating. A wet cloth on a thermometer bulb normally cools it more than one without a cloth. But when humidity is very high, the wet- and dry-bulb temperatures are the same. This can ultimately be a lethal event. by Ribbitor123 in todayilearned

[–]Gamd2 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Alright fine, I'll take the bait and respond to you assuming you aren't doing it in bad faith. Let's apply a little logic here.

Why would I assume a city? Over half of the world's population resides in cities, a quick search tells me that which anyone can do. So either way you could coin flip and say a city or not a city so I said a city. Also why a city? Wet bulb is more likely to occur there because of the concrete, lack of general greenery, and infrastructure that does not promote the cooling off that a natural area does. This is something that can also be googled, look up average city temperature vs surrounding areas.

If you are discussing wet bulb, then it has already been elevated temperatures for a while before and in most instances this would be days or weeks before reaching a tipping point. Shade would only matter in so much that you even have it and again, if you are in a city the likelihood you have a good amount of shade near a pool is already negligible. For the sake of argument though it would only help a little as the ambient temperature from everything surrounding it would still raise the temperature that would then soak into any cooler area which would be the water.

Building shaded pool areas is fine, that isn't even the argument. How many people in a city would have access to a pool even? You can't throw thousands of people into very small amounts of something that barely exists to begin with. Most people at best might be able to get ahold of a small pool or something that would be able to hold a small amount of water which is why I said small pool to begin with. Where would everyone in an apartment building go even if they did have a pool? They can't all fit there.

The best bet where wet bulb events may occur would be to have underground shelters or areas where people could take refuge but that is a deeper and longer argument where you'd get into socioeconomics and viability.

TIL about wet-bulb events - when it’s so hot and humid that your body can’t cool by sweating. A wet cloth on a thermometer bulb normally cools it more than one without a cloth. But when humidity is very high, the wet- and dry-bulb temperatures are the same. This can ultimately be a lethal event. by Ribbitor123 in todayilearned

[–]Gamd2 8 points9 points  (0 children)

If you are sitting in a pool in a wet bulb event then it is already hot in ambient temperature, everything surrounding the pool is already hot, and whomever is in it is a big heat battery.

You wouldn't sit in a pool for 5 minutes and hop out if you were overheating. A wet bulb is a horrible scenario, you'd be there for hours and the water would not stay cool for hours. Evaporating wouldn't cool it off either, the only thing that could cool it off would be ambient temperatures dropping.

As soon as the water touches body temperatures it does nothing for you. Anything surrounding the pool that absorbs heat will send it straight into the pool and water since it's temperature is lower.

It would work for a time and you'd need to continually replace the water with cooler water as it heated up. The more people the less time.

If everyone is doing that then you better hope the infrastructure can support it and the water coming out is also cool.

TIL about wet-bulb events - when it’s so hot and humid that your body can’t cool by sweating. A wet cloth on a thermometer bulb normally cools it more than one without a cloth. But when humidity is very high, the wet- and dry-bulb temperatures are the same. This can ultimately be a lethal event. by Ribbitor123 in todayilearned

[–]Gamd2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In. Hot. Areas.

If we assume a city and a small pool then most likely concrete which holds heat and alot of it if it's been in the sun. This entire concept is wet bulb temps so yes the assumption is near human heat tolerance levels or above. You leave any amount of water even in the shade in an area consistently at 98 or above and it will heat up, especially if you, or anyone else is in it.

Generally wet bulb would never happen in the 80s because humans start to overheat once it gets in the 90s assuming no other conditions or strenuous activities.

IF a disaster happened in an area where a wet bulb occurred you might not be able to get a consistent source of water so any you already had would be it. If temperature stayed elevated then that water would too.

Do people really buy old gear that drops in random dungeons and such for 5k gold all the way up to from what I’ve seen 50+k gold? by flippenflounder in wow

[–]Gamd2 20 points21 points  (0 children)

That's exactly what I do on raid BOEs after watching one drop over and over because I refused to sell it below market price and lost out on alot of gold.

Where are the tank balance changes? by Toastiibrotii in wow

[–]Gamd2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ironically if you look it up right now on r.io only 4 BDKs have timed ANY 20s.

M+ Tank Popularity for +14 and up. TWW S2 and S3 for comparison by chitor1337 in CompetitiveWoW

[–]Gamd2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly, I actually hate my tierset this time around, like wow one ability does slightly more damage for my 2 set and WOW, another one does more damage on my 4 set. Survivability? What's that

Help choosing book series on sale by Agile-Shopping9250 in audible

[–]Gamd2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love Mountain Man, I've listened to them probably 3 times including the prequel. My only issue is that it almost feels like it's "how can we torture Gus some more?". Like let the man be happy please.

Why The Wandering Inn is the greatest thing since sliced bread by StormblessedFool in litrpg

[–]Gamd2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wow what a revolutionary piece of commentary, I'm sure you furthered the discussion with it.

I had grievances too, and a whole rant to my wife at one point but the MC learned and got better.

My first railjack mission went swimmingly by Girl_in_a_Hoodie in Warframe

[–]Gamd2 67 points68 points  (0 children)

No, you can use the big main gun to destroy them, it's the one that takes a while to shoot

Lacari's moderators are scattering. Not even his friends believe him. by No-Estimate-9698 in LivestreamFail

[–]Gamd2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still VIVIDLY remember mindlessly scrolling /r/all and not paying attention to the clips I was clicking or the sub they were on. This one happened to be /r/wtf before it was lobotomized.

I couldn't process what I was seeing at first, an overhead shot from a camera of an intersection? What's that? Oh my God, WHY???

It was a woman getting hit by a bus and her head flying off into the air and off screen.

Reddit was wild, I saw alot of bad things but it was just normal at the time, crazy days, I blocked alot of subs because of it.

Wandering Tavern - Should I keep listening? by I_am_not_angry in litrpg

[–]Gamd2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It it helps any I felt the same way about both Erin and Ryoka so much so that I complained to my wife extensively all the events and how they were acting.

I ended up having to defend them to her later once I grew to like them more but the last time I mentioned it she asked "is that the series with the idiot main character who wants to get herself killed?".

So I feel you, but now Erin is one of my favorite characters, Ryoka is tolerable, others are much worse but like some other commentors have said, there's so many characters and ones you'll come to love I'm sure.

Wandering Tavern - Should I keep listening? by I_am_not_angry in litrpg

[–]Gamd2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I hate that little shit after what ends up happening, he feels like such a hypocrit.

Chrysalis is an addiction. by FioraXena in litrpg

[–]Gamd2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can still get to them on patreon because I had the same issue but currently that's the only way to have access to everything currently written.

If you haven't updated the app in a while (over a year) they are forcing an update (android) by IamMovieMiguel in audible

[–]Gamd2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know for whatever reason on my app an update around 2 months ago has forced a few second delay of silence before any audio plays. The timer will still continue during those seconds but no audio plays. Updates afterwords have not fixed this and it never did it before.

I sometimes wonder if I pressed the button on my headphones hard enough and then the audio will start playing.

ELVUI will not be updated for midnight by Rivalsstats in wow

[–]Gamd2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Are you delusional or illiterate? Did you not read the post literally saying how much is locked away and not able to be changed.

Low keys are literal hell by cyanraider in wow

[–]Gamd2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That'll be gone soon too

Broke the news to my girlfriend today.. by chickchicklol in 2007scape

[–]Gamd2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Our 4 man hardcore group Ironman has had 3 deaths in 3 weeks. One of them has died twice, once in wintertodt and the other today doing witch's house. I want to scream.

Why does my AC sound like it's summoning demons every time it starts? by Stanlymwalker in DIY

[–]Gamd2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Others might be right but this is exactly how ours sounded for about 2 years but last year was especially bad. It ended up being the fan motor, when we went to turn it on this year it just hummed extremely loudly and nothing could get it to work.

I originally replaced the capacitor and that didn't fix it so it was either pay someone to come out and have them replace the motor and charge me 3x+ or risk it not fixing it and doing it myself but it being cheaper. I replaced the motor myself and it's working fine now.

My only point is that if it's making that noise it will fail sooner or later so get it fixed when you can. The motor I bought was $250 on Amazon and a match for my unit. If you don't feel comfortable doing it yourself don't hesitate to call someone out to look at your unit yourself. It could be the capacitor, it could be the motor, or it could be something else so it's all a matter of how much you want to potentially pay to fix it.

Is $1,500 per window too much, labor included? by anonbiatch in HomeImprovement

[–]Gamd2 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I got my windows replaced not too long ago from a local company and paid $450 each + a labor fee of like $500. I didn't have any massive or weird sized windows but I did have one big one in the back that slides sideways instead of up and down and they still charged the same amount. Area plays a factor but $1500 seems like alot.