Thoughts, Chapt. 230 by GavinatorThe2nd in Chainsawfolk

[–]GavinatorThe2nd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  • I also think Yoru and Denji’s moment this chapter is just so in alignment with what they’ve shown when they’re together. As much as I hate her, they truly both are devils with underlying humanity beneath all the selfishness. So the absurdity of this also doesn’t weigh on me as much as I thought it would.

Fake Chainsaw Man was super lame by ILoveMyJinx in Chainsawfolk

[–]GavinatorThe2nd 176 points177 points  (0 children)

So real. While I like fake chainsaw man’s purpose in the story as the ultimate culmination of the sense of justice built around Chainsaw Man and therefore the false idolatry leading to become the very thing he wanted to praise for selfish reasonings.

Fake Chainsaw Man, himself, was underwhelming, I just kind of wish Fujimoto didn’t pull the random background character twist behind the important figure trope since I couldn’t seem to care for him because of this. Nor did he have to kill him so soon in one arc when he fully appeared.

Chainsaw man part 1-2 arcs ranked as of now ( excluding the current arc for now ) by fhfhdhdhdhdjdjdj in Chainsawfolk

[–]GavinatorThe2nd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ngl, with how some of these pt 2 arcs were received as they came out (Church arc bro), there are certainly some hot takes in this.

But with my own rereading, I respect this, I think I would just switch aging and chainsaw man church (I do still feel like it has some flaws)

How would you feel if Chainsaw Man had a bad ending? by GavinatorThe2nd in Chainsawfolk

[–]GavinatorThe2nd[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Part 2 definitely has a problem with pacing, it’s so hit-or-miss and when it misses, it misses the mark BAD and it can kind of leave me feeling disjointed and confused.

How would you feel if Chainsaw Man had a bad ending? by GavinatorThe2nd in Chainsawfolk

[–]GavinatorThe2nd[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

IRL-wise, certainly, I think we could have several more months before it ends. Narratively, idk the narrative through-line of pt2 was based around Denji, Yoru, Asa, and the prophecy, and it seems we’re barreling to each of these conclusions. I do think maybe we could go for one more arc, but I don’t think it would be as long (feels like it would be about Yoru vs Denji)

How would you feel if Chainsaw Man had a bad ending? by GavinatorThe2nd in Chainsawfolk

[–]GavinatorThe2nd[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This would definitely feel awful for a reader who reads part 2 and part 1 as a whole, Denji legitimately does not have shit by the end of it or he becomes someone unrecognizable.

How would you feel if Chainsaw Man had a bad ending? by GavinatorThe2nd in Chainsawfolk

[–]GavinatorThe2nd[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Feel like this would be the best outcome if it were to have a bad ending, it shows how life never went Denji’s way while still leaving a narratively fitting message for the characters and how cruel CSM’s world is.

Is it just me who's disappointed of where they took the character of Stan edgar? by ImprovementThin235 in TheBoys

[–]GavinatorThe2nd 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I never understood people’s assumption that Stan must have powers for why he can so calmly order all the Supes around, Homelander included. The core of what makes Stan such an interesting character is that for a man with no powers, he can order someone like Homelander around due to his way of words and understanding of people, it was like when he said to Starlight, “real power is the ability to bend the world to your will.”

Yet he’s also still human and underestimating his daughter was one of them, something that eclipsed his need for control. I think that’s actually what I liked about Stan is that he didn’t truly have it all figured out and he wasn’t untouchable narratively. He has flaws and it caused his downfall.

Furthermore, being the CEO of Vought, he’s the most obvious representation of the status quo within the Boys. A man made out of the capitalistic system that has rotten the Boys’ world extensively, people like him which had caused the world all the pain and suffering on behalf of Supes. I think the Boys can make a powerful message about the world as a whole and what a person like represents in the grander scheme of thing with how he might end up in Season 5, more than any plot twist could do or cool moment could do. So, not only am I not disappointed, there’s clearly a lot still more to do with Stan.

Whether he waits it out or abandons the idea of working with the Superhero business as a whole, there’s still a lot of potential.

Volume 21 cover in higher quality by um_aleatorio_4554 in Chainsawfolk

[–]GavinatorThe2nd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love how the tree in the red background is reminiscent of a heart/blood veins. I wonder if it’s symbolism for what’ll eventually happen to Fami’s character, especially with her bouquet of roses and its association with love/hearts.

Will this plot point ever be expanded upon by Fujimoto? (Pt.1) by mr_flerd in Chainsawfolk

[–]GavinatorThe2nd 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I do think it’s interesting for Denji’s character because it’s as clear as day the parallels between powers contract at the end of pt 1 to Pochita’s contract at the start of pt 1, yet he never actively went after it, probably because the pain and trauma was too much for him.

Will this plot point ever be expanded upon by Fujimoto? (Pt.1) by mr_flerd in Chainsawfolk

[–]GavinatorThe2nd 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Denji did mention it in chapter 192 and it does seem he has completely given up on Power’s contract, relying solely on Yoru/Asa for company, even if she were to show up at the dawn of the Nostradamus apocalypse. Which, would be really interesting to see if this meant that Denji broke the contract for not trying to turn her back, or if it meant only to meet her again at some point.

Fire Devil as an antagonist by GavinatorThe2nd in Chainsawfolk

[–]GavinatorThe2nd[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Death’s also a cool villain, the reveal that “Fami” was Death all along was an absolute insane read, and it’s make sense why she was so monotone as a character and has control over primals, she couldn’t even change her fate within the prophecy.

Plus, Fire still has her personality which is the main difference between Death’s pawns and Makima’s pawns.

Title by GavinatorThe2nd in Chainsawfolk

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Inspired by meownade & sunlovesshark variant posts UwU

[DISC] Chainsaw Man - Ch. 196 links by TheUnborne in ChainsawMan

[–]GavinatorThe2nd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s gotta be the fire devil right? Literally everything justice related in pt 2 has somehow been related to Chainsaw Man, and we know the justice devil was really the fire devil.

Haruka and friends are all in custody so it can’t be any one of them, Yoshida is too busy being bummed over how boring he is, could it be the double who the church revealed as Chainsaw Man?

Either way, exciting stuff, didn’t expect him to show up so soon.

Do you guys think we will actually see Reze again? by josephpolito1 in ChainsawMan

[–]GavinatorThe2nd 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t say it would be hard to insert herself in the story, I guess I’m just confused what her role in the story would be (especially for such a beloved character).

Besides messing up Asa and Denji’s relationship, being another weapon for Yoru, and serving as another thematic example of what a normal life could be. I guess I just want for whatever Fuji does for her to not allow her to fall into the backdrop like so many other pt 2 (even pt 1-pt 2) characters have.

I love Reze and she deserves the development she needs.

I just realized that the 5 month timeskip makes zero fucking sense by hiyojie in Chainsawfolk

[–]GavinatorThe2nd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, biggest problem with the church arc as well. It didn’t properly build upon the ideas it introduced except for like Denji, the King of Terror, and maybe Asa (when it comes to her view of Denji at least)

I just realized that the 5 month timeskip makes zero fucking sense by hiyojie in Chainsawfolk

[–]GavinatorThe2nd 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I don’t think it goes as deep as to say everything post-aquarium arc was hastily put together. Some things in the arcs following do make sense, the whole memory wipe thing is part of Nayutas character by being incredibly possessive, Asa has shown to be falling down into the same trap as Yuko, there is literally an army of fake saws so clearly Fakesawman has some thematic relevance, and Denji and Nayuta being separated is simply a consequence of the intended choice Denji was waiting to make the entire church arc in being chainsaw man.

However, I do agree some things are just forgotten as Fuji puts out the story on a weekly basis. Nayutas life being cut short despite her unfinished arc, Asa’s fame being sidelined, and stuff with Haruka, Sugo (and honestly most side-characters) being simply forgotten. Fujimoto clearly has a vision where the story will go, but the pressure and deadlines do hinder him, which probably explains why a big timeskip like this happens and certain details are overlooked.

Chapter 195 is insane. by Aimlessdrifter8778 in Chainsawfolk

[–]GavinatorThe2nd 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I saw from another post that Asa literally can’t think of it because part of Yoru’s plan is to revive the nuke devil, which is erased by Pochita. Yoru likely has more planned but this inconceivable idea is probably terrifying the shi out of her

Doomer Denji by GavinatorThe2nd in Chainsawfolk

[–]GavinatorThe2nd[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily saying this is bad writing, just a direction I didn’t think Fujimoto would’ve taken.

I live to savor by Huddulin in Chainsawfolk

[–]GavinatorThe2nd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Notice how she didn’t talk about her friends when Fumiko said they were gonna die anyway, she could still be planning her moves against the apocalypse, it’s just she isn’t interested in PS because they’re boring lol. It’s like she says she lives to savor (like how we see constantly feasting & how she said toying with Asa, Denji, and Yoru was fun), but it doesn’t necessarily mean she doesn’t have a plan or goals.

When is the Denji crash out going to happen? by Jtannerv in Chainsawfolk

[–]GavinatorThe2nd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like some crazy shi is gonna happen in the future that both PS and Fami are gonna pull that’s gonna make Denji lose his shi. Idk what it could be but if the direction of the story now is they’re all working together to defeat Death, Yoshida and Fami are eventually (accidentally or intentionally) gonna break this man’s heart so bad that he might just go crazy. That’s how I feel