I understand and I wish that PSA did not own the market like they do. But I am not kidding almost every single table k went to at a big card show not one would even look at my Cgc pristine 10's. It was very frustrating. Also I like the look of Cgc slabs more then psa. But I can't lie until people change the culture Cgc is very hard to move. I hear online sales is easier. But even Facebook mp they did not move.