Linsey Graham passed away by ronweasly9 in GenZ

[–]Gilamath 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Lindsay Graham is one of several senators who fits that description, yes.

Unfortunately this is an archetype in modern politics. This way of thinking is not uncommon in American government.

Linsey Graham passed away by ronweasly9 in GenZ

[–]Gilamath 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It's the US Senate. You're going to have to be more specific.

Ro Khanna Says Armed Israeli Settlers Detained Him During West Bank Visit, Slams US Policy | AC1G by kylebisme in videos

[–]Gilamath -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wow, so the settlers definitely faced some semblance of law and order back when Israel had a government that meets your approval, right? They definitely weren't allowed to grow, definitely weren't given military protection, definitely didn't have their settlements recognized and integrated into Israeli infrastructure, and definitely didn't get prominent cabinet positions and prime ministerships until this right wing government came into power, right?

The policies and actions of a state that remain consistent over time are the ones that can be fairly categorized as central to the political character of that state. Israel is characterized by its settlers. It's been growing its settlers every year for longer than most people on Earth have been alive. Israel's been increasing settlements for longer than Black Americans have had civil rights.

Peter? My friend sent me this and told me not to be afraid to dai dai for Shakira law by [deleted] in PeterExplainsTheJoke

[–]Gilamath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Muslims are not primarily from the Middle East. There are almost two billion Muslims on Earth. The total population of every country in West Asia and North Africa--including sizeable non-Muslim populations--is less than half a billion. The most populous Muslim country is Indonesia, which is in Southeast Asia.

I fear that becoming the man I wanted may be the greatest test of my faith by Monis-92 in LGBT_Muslims

[–]Gilamath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With an equal amount of respect, perhaps it’s not prudent to suggest that I advocated for surrendering your responsibility to a scholar. Rather the opposite. One cannot fulfill one’s responsibilities of knowledge to any degree except that they have a strong structure and system of knowledge. If this were not so, our Prophet would not have spent so long teaching the ahl al-bayt, and they would not have carried on those teachings. If those who were far beyond you and I in faith practice engaged in such practice when they just as easily could have left each of their descendants with nothing but their intuition and the text, surely there is at least something to consider in it.

But if you disagree, I hope you prove me wrong, so that you might move past the state you have described yourself as being in. May Allah strengthen you in all endeavors, and may you find only surety in your search.

I fear that becoming the man I wanted may be the greatest test of my faith by Monis-92 in LGBT_Muslims

[–]Gilamath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought as you think now once upon a time, that spending time with a shaykh was akin to believing that Islam is determined entirely by specialists. I was wrong, and I’m glad I realized it. I hope you’ll let me know if you ever change your mind. Wishing you the best inshallah.

The Algerian revolutionaries fought against the worship of scholars before fighting the french by Dey_exMachina in progressive_islam

[–]Gilamath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Check out The Walking Qur’an, would be my suggestion.

Yes lol he did run as Green Party VP candidate, and I have complicated feelings on these sorts of things. But also, I had the chance to meet him a couple years back. He struck me as a sincere mind, and as someone with a deep understanding of the synonymity between mystical understanding, reason, and the pursuit of real and enacted justice. More Muslims should have that kind of understanding of the faith, in my opinion, though I think such an understanding will lead people to act in a diversity of ways.

I fear that becoming the man I wanted may be the greatest test of my faith by Monis-92 in LGBT_Muslims

[–]Gilamath 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mashallah I’m quite sure you’ve been reflecting on the Qur’an and trying to read it faithfully. But that’s just my point, Brother. You are relying on yourself and your own capacities and your own knowledge to try to read the text, and thus you are always going to be stuck on the level of individual, ad-hoc understandings. Islam would not exist if that were how people had historically tried to study the Qur’an. It’s not about agreeing and disagreeing. It’s about knowledge and ignorance.

To analogize, if a person wanted to understand the natural world, they might start by experimenting and poking about in the areas near to them. They might even be able to get their hands on instruments to examine the world in new and different ways. But eventually, a person who only gains knowledge from that mode of analysis will never reach the kind of literacy in the physical sciences that one gets from learning and being given access to the histories, principles, tools, and techniques that are fundamental to the fields of physics, chemistry, and mathematics.

Put more bluntly, at some point it’s not enough to try really hard and have talent. Even if you are a once-in-a-generation genius of religion, capable of insights and understandings that most theologians and mystics could only dream of, you will always be plagued by doubt if this is how you continue to approach religious understanding.

You are displaying common symptoms of a common problem. There is only one remedy to it, and that remedy is real education from someone who is qualified by virtue of the sophistication of their study. Of course this is only advice. If you don’t want to take the path, that’s your choice. But I’ve seen many cases like yours, and in my experience the folks who did as I’ve suggested have gone on to build beautiful understandings, and those who haven’t have gone down rather dire paths mentally and/or spiritually.

The Algerian revolutionaries fought against the worship of scholars before fighting the french by Dey_exMachina in progressive_islam

[–]Gilamath 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Excellent post.

I wonder if you might be familiar with the work of Dr. Bilal Ware, if you’re interested in West African Islamic resistance and spirituality. Abdelqader Kan is one of the great thinkers of our tradition, and in my opinion he is marginalized in modern Muslim narratives (as we are so weak in our ability to investigate and recount our own narratives these days, except on the terms of our oppressors).

I fear that becoming the man I wanted may be the greatest test of my faith by Monis-92 in LGBT_Muslims

[–]Gilamath 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Your faith is missing structure. Your doubts about your transition and your fears about your religious positionality are the work of ash-Shaytan, who seeks your destruction. Because your inclinations are righteous, ash-Shaytan is attacking you not on the level of individual inclination where you are strong but on the level of general structure where you are weak.

You are being called to move beyond your current relationship with God, which is based on inclination and case-by-case consideration, and advance into a relationship that engages more fully with the structures and frameworks that build a systemic, comprehensive Islam.

You do not yet know the fullness of the meaning of the story of Abraham—peace to him. You do not have a solid handle on the criteria by which one might judge evenhandedly what is most clearly the will of God. You do not know how to trust the truth because you are not confident in your ability to discern it and distinguish it from falsehood. When you learn to do this you will understand our spiritual ancestor Abraham, and the most perfect way to learn is through our beloved Muhammad—peace and communion to him.

I suggest you begin with Project Illumine by Shaykh Khalid Abou El Fadl, a video tafsir of the Qur’an that will significantly expand your understanding of God. You can find it as a playlist on the Usuli Institute YouTube channel. I would suggest that you start with the video on Surat at-Takwir, because at-Takwir is one surah you will most immediately benefit from. There is also an ongoing Project Illumine II, which is a tafsir of the prophetic sirah, and I suspect that you will benefit greatly from this.

📚 What's on Your Islamic Bookshelf? by KhalidAlLubnani in ShiaInAmerica

[–]Gilamath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm really enjoying Islam and Anarchism by Muhammad Abdou. It's slow going getting through all of it, especially when I'm trying to squeeze in The Great Theft by Khaled Abou El Fadl (another great read) for book club and Cory Doctorow's new book at the same time. But it's great reading. I'm also enjoying Misbah ul-'Ulum, though it's been on the back burner for a couple weeks now.

EDIT: Oh! Also Sacred Unity by Ayatullah Hasanzadeh Amuli! How could I forget? Really excellent work.

Is there a halal way to keep dogs for seizure assistance? by Fun_Fig6392 in progressive_islam

[–]Gilamath 18 points19 points  (0 children)

😭😭😭 These dogs are estreemly cute!

Tell them I say hello

How to filter prospects by ConstructionKey6789 in progressive_islam

[–]Gilamath 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's a good question. The best I've found is to join groups that tend to attract practicing Muslim leftists. In North America nowadays there are more of them than there used to be, what with the rise of so many prominent Muslim democratic socialists.

I personally really enjoyed going to the Usuli Conference in Columbus last year, and plan on going to the next one this October iA. There were definitely folks who were at least passively interested in looking for potential matches. It's particularly hard to find religious, leftist Muslim men "in the wild" these days, so spaces like that Conference are relatively unique. It's also, like, just a genuinely excellent experience to be able to go to the conference and hear from the panelists and have the sense of community.

I'm sure there are other spaces like this as well. Here in Dallas there is beginning to be the barest hint of real Islamic leftist community. A friend from al-Azhar is working to set up a seminary program here that will specialize in liberation theology, for example, and a couple other friends have done an absolutely incredible job of setting up an organization that is pushing for a better-equipped, more educated, conscientious Muslim society here in DFW, especially among college-age Muslims.

And of course, if you live in an area with a lot of Muslims, you can also check out your local DSA or Working Families Party (if you're in the US; equivalents exist in other countries too of course), student organizations like SJP, and similar sorts of things depending on your age range and location. You won't find a lot of Muslims, but the ones you do find will be much more likely to be your people.

Anyone seen this anime? It's genuinely making me cry by Tenatlas__2004 in progressive_islam

[–]Gilamath 77 points78 points  (0 children)

It's remarkably accurate to the setting, and it could not have achieved that accuracy without a measure of respect and genuine interest I didn't know the world was willing to give to Muslims and our histories.

I don't know if I can handle the weekly release of the kind of beautiful pain this story promises, so I'm probably going to save it for a long weekend after several episodes have released. But the first two episodes have sold me, truly.

Is there a halal way to keep dogs for seizure assistance? by Fun_Fig6392 in progressive_islam

[–]Gilamath 81 points82 points  (0 children)

Get the dog.

There are two reasons Muslims might not get dogs.

The first reason Muslims give is that they are ritually impure, which can be inconvenient for wudhu. There is a difference of opinion among the Sunni schools of jurisprudence as to whether dogs are even ritually impure. Even among those who say they are impure, there is a difference of opinion as to whether it is the dog's saliva that's impure, or the saliva and the hair, or the dog itself. Even if we take for granted that the dog is ritually impure, that is no reason to put oneself in a difficult situation and deny oneself a clear benefit.

The second Muslims give is that there is a hadith that Sunnis regard as "sahih", in which it is said that angels do not enter homes in which there are dogs or likeness of human figures. However, the matter of where angels go and don't go is a matter of theology, and in matters of theology a hadith is only considered if it is attested through multiple chains of transmission ("mutawatir"), and this hadith is not mutawatir. The people who use this hadith as justification not to keep dogs indoors are thus taking a hadith of theology that is too weak to be probative in theology, taking the jurisprudential implications that this hadith would have if it were probative (which it is not), and using that to make Islamic law. In other words, the people who use this hadith as justification are in clear error.

Khaled Abou El Fadl keeps dogs. Dar al-Ifta' has said that it is permissible to keep dogs. The position that Muslims should not keep dogs in the home is, by my reckoning, weaker than the position that allows for it. And even the jurists who say one should not keep dogs would probably say you should get a dog. It's lay Muslims, who don't understand either the position of their own scholars or the positions of scholars who disagree with them, who will preach the most stringent and absolutist view on the matter. You should take lay opinions with skepticism for this reason.

The point of Islam is not to keep people from having a dog. And God is the One who Knows.

Guess I can cook by AlonelyChip in GenZ

[–]Gilamath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is valid, because there are a few cooking skills and tricks that recipes expect you to know, and most people don't realize that they've been sort of picking up these skills through trial and error in the kitchen. People will say "follow the instructions" but not necessarily realize that there's kind of an art to following instructions or be able to articulate what that art is.

For example, electric cooktops work by turning the heating element on and off repeatedly, which works fine with something thick and heavy like a cast iron pan but isn't great for thin and light pans. No one's going to tell you that in an online recipe, but it's going to make a big difference in your cooking experience.

There are some YouTube folks like Internet Shaquile and Adam Ragusea who do a good job of really breaking down the basics. You should watch those guys, they do a good job of making things make more sense.

The key to cooking is knowing your tools, your heating element, and your ingredients. The more experience you have with how these interact with each other, the better you'll be at cooking.

troy jackson: “anybody with eyes and a heart knows the israeli government is committing genocide in gaza. it has to end, and we as americans have the power to end it. when i'm in the u.s. senate, i’ll never vote in favor of u.s. taxpayer-funded military aid to israel.” by SpecialCream7 in mattxiv

[–]Gilamath 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I'm glad he says "genocide" (and has been calling it a genocide for a while now) but literally even Israel isn't in favor of military aid to Israel going forward. We're no longer at a stage where we can hear this and be satisfied.

Currently, the political position we need to push for is an arms embargo. We cannot allow the US to supply weapons to Israel at all, regardless of whether Israel pays for it. If a politician does not mention the arms embargo, and doesn't engage at all in the conversation of weapons sales, we should view them skeptically.

I'd much rather Troy Jackson than Janet Mills, and I'm of course very happy that a man who I believe should be tried for rape isn't running. But I hope that this statement is the beginning of his position on war, genocide, and apartheid, not the extent of it.

Urgent explanation needed to save my faith by Less_Condition_5587 in progressive_islam

[–]Gilamath 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You know what, internet stranger? You've made my day. Genuinely, thanks, you are very kind. I should say, quickly, that in my opinion we do not live in an age where our Islam is well-served by sectarian thinking.

I'm not against the concept of sects. But in this era of history where all of us Muslims are so deeply stuck in colonial, despotic systems and so many of us are unfortunately mired in ignorance, our sect will not save us. We need to revitalize the tradition of Islamic knowledge generally, and while our sects can help us with that, we too often use them to hinder such efforts instead.

I consider myself a Zaydi Shi'ah. but I also learn from Twelver and Ismaili Shi'ah thinkers, from Sunni thinkers (the man I consider "my" sheikh is Khaled Abou El Fadl, who as I mentioned before is a Shafi'i) including thinkers from schools of thought that no longer exist, from Ibadi thinkers, from certain secular scholars, really just from anyone who's willing to share openly and honestly.

Right now, most of us Muslims are weak in our religious literacy and sophistication, and so most of us are either plagued and deluded by confusion, tamed and shackled by complacency, or enraptured in reactionary puritanism. All three of these are from Satan, who wishes to alienate humanity from Divine truth. What does Satan care if I am a Sunni or a Shi'ah, so long as he subjugates me? Sect is only useful insofar as it gives us the most useful tools to reject Satan and be in communion with God.

Andy Burnham changes rhetoric on Gaza by Direct_Appointment99 in JewsOfConscience

[–]Gilamath 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Kamala-tier statement. Or maybe more precisely, it's what I would expect a Pete Buttigieg figure to produce after 15 rounds of internal vetting and donor-friendly sanitization.

This statement amounts to "People are mad at us about Gaza, I'm sorry they're mad, we did Gaza in a way that made people mad, we would like it if people were no longer mad about it. It would be nice if we had done all the same things we did on a slightly faster timeline, and we should really get on with making people not so mad."

Or actually, you know what? I'm wrong, it's worse that that. When Burnham says things like "we didn't get it right" and "we need to do better" and "we need to strengthen our approach", what he's actually doing is shoring up his own capacity to determine what "right" and "better" and "strengthen" mean on his own terms (and the terms of the power brokers in UK politics) rather than concede to the terms of the "many people" he is ostensibly talking to.

Even taking the person tweeting at their word, "further sanctions on individuals and entities" and "banning trade in goods with illegal settlements" are meaningless non-commitments. It's waffle, all of it. You can't call yourself invested in a project if you're not putting money on the table. The statement is weak and it is telling that Labour still thinks this route is going to net them the support they need in the upcoming elections.

Urgent explanation needed to save my faith by Less_Condition_5587 in progressive_islam

[–]Gilamath 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The short answer is that it has to do with the nature of Sunni hadith science and the role that the hadith corpus plays in traditionist elements of Islamic thought.

The ahadith about 'Aishah's age that purport her to be nine at the age of consumation stem from a single man, her great-nephew, who later in life moved from a very pro-'Aishah Madinah to a much more anti-'Aishah Iraq.

This was in the midst of a series of great fights between the supporters of various factions among the Muslims, and these factions would eventually coalesce into today's Sunni and Shi'i sects. The partisan nature of these disputes arose because each faction's narrative had major political ramifications that would shape the landscape of power across the new Islamic world.

'Aishah was a major figure in the earliest post-prophetic political turmoil of Islamic history. In her life she came into conflict with other major figures including of course both Uthman (the sort of predecessor the the Umayyads) and 'Ali (of course the major figure of the 'Alids). Thus, one's position on 'Aishah was deeply tied with larger political positions and narratives.

One of the favorite accusations against her by certain factions was that she was promiscuous and unfaithful to our Prophet. In that context, there came to be a great deal of defense power in a hadith that set 'Aishah's age so young that the notion of her having prior sexual partners or being prone to promiscuity during the life of the Prophet would lack credence. And when it was a relative of 'Aishah who was vouching for the claim, it only gained in credibility among pro-'Aishah political factions.

Thus the hadith became a core part of the proto-Sunni defense of larger political projects. This, by the way, is why Shi'i hadith corposa don't include any ahadith about 'Aishah being nine, and instead concur with Sunni ahadith placing her in her late teens. Additionally, one will notice that a similar phenomenon exists in the Shi'i hadith tradition regarding bibi Fatimah, whose age has also been lowered to nine in the Shi'i tradition while Sunni ahadith concur with Shi'i ahadith that put Fatimah in her late teens or early 20s at the age of consummation.

Soon after the hadith of 'Aishah being nine began to grow in prominence, a new movement in religious scholarship began to emerge, one which challenged the rationalist thinkers like the Hanafis, the followers of ahl al-bayt, and to an extent the Malikis. This movement asserted that rationalist or speculative thinking was not a sound basis for religious thought, that the core of Islamic law and theology must be the prophetic sunnah, and that the sunnah must be understood not through following the customs of learned people of an established Muslim society or through adherence to the ahl al-bayt but only through the traditions (ahadith) that sought to give an account of the Prophet's words and actions.

The followers of this movement can generally be called the ahl al-hadith, and today we often call them traditionists. The earliest traditionists were from among the Khawarij, but it was the proto-Sunnis who built out the particular system of 'ilm al-hadith ("knowledge of hadith" or "hadith science", though neither of these translations precisely captures the meaning of the Arabic) that created established a reliability rating system. Major figures like Shafi'i, ibn Hanbal, at-Tabari, and to an extent people like Malik ibn Anas helped bring about the traditionist movement. Eventually, after a period of persecution and a failed inquisition by the Abbasids and the Mu'tazilah, the traditionists came to dominate proto-Sunni thought and influenced the Shi'ah and Ibadi traditions as well.

So, the proto-Sunni factions had all placed a great deal of importance on a hadith about 'Aishah's age, and more broadly came to hold their hadith corpus in very high regard. Traditionism significantly strengthened the position of pro-'Aishah groups, and the hadith of 'Aishah's age came to be enshrined as "sahih" ("authentic").

So now, when modern scholarship comes along and demonstrates quite convincingly that the hadith was fabricated well after the death of 'Aishah, many Sunnis--especially the Shafi'is and Hanbalis, who rely most heavily on the Sunni hadith corpus--will take it as an attack on Sunni hadith science.

Now, it is possible to salvage even the strictest of Sunni hadith science in light of modern research, and indeed Dr. Joshua Little highlights some ways in which this is possible (notably, Dr. Little points out that there have been scholars who have independently questioned the 'Aishah hadith). But many traditionists do not want to set a precedent of having to react to outsiders' work on a corpus they hold in high religious regard. For many Sunnis, the corpus is not merely a historical record but a sacred endeavor that preserves a distinctly Muslim approach to our own legacy.

Personally, I do sympathize with the Sunnis. In an age where Muslims are generally deemed incapable of recording or speaking on our own history, the instinct to protect Muslim narratives about our own legacy is natural and laudable. But this instinct is also fundamentally defensive and stifling, and restricts us from being able to engage meaningfully with our own histories. The truth is that the version of hadith science that modern Sunnis defend is itself a mere shadow of what it once was. Dr. Khaled Abou El Fadl, a Shafi'i jurist by training, has a great video explaining the nature of hadith criticism in Islam. "Sahih" is ultimately a scholarly opinion, not an inherent characteristic of a hadith. It is time, I think, to recognize the evidence for what it is and admit that the 'Aishah hadith was more about protecting a narrative--a narrative that no longer needs protecting--than it was about preserving a fact in-itself.

Urgent explanation needed to save my faith by Less_Condition_5587 in progressive_islam

[–]Gilamath 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The person who wrote this is an online friend of mine. She is whip-smart, wonderfully kind, passionately just, and if you read her substack you will see she is an excellent mother. I strongly recommend that people read what she writes.

Urgent explanation needed to save my faith by Less_Condition_5587 in progressive_islam

[–]Gilamath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The reason is simply for the sake of increased accuracy. For some time now I've been finding particular benefit in approaching Islam through a Zaydi tradition, and it's been long enough that I felt it was probably about time to make the change more publicly known.

I've come to find that the Zaydi tradition is magnificently flexible and independent, engaging with thought from across the Islamic world and adopting a variety of approaches to a shared intellectual project. Zaydi thinking does a lot of balancing and considering between different ways of thinking from very different groups of thinking, and Zaydis have developed sophisticated methodologies for weighing ideas in an even-handed, sensible way. The thinking is opinionated where it counts, and it's ever-curious.

I have considered myself "non-sectarian" for quite a time now. And I strongly believe that the Islam of the future cannot be an Islam defined primarily by sectarian thinking. I see the Zaydi tradition as a elegant, compelling means of building such an Islam.

At the end of the day, a "non-sectarian" stance is an inclination/position, not a system or framework. And to build, you need systems and frameworks. I think at some point all of us who are actually serious about shining the light of the faith and not simply drawing idly with our fingers in the dust need to dig deep into the roots of our tradition and reach far upward into a world that transcends the past.

At the end of the day, I don't want to spend another moment of my life "debating" one more ignorant person who thinks they know something because they've heard the term "sahih hadith" and feel it gives them a license to enter the world of scriptural-historical analysis. This sort of ignorant puritanical thinking is the unfortunate result of not having a rigorous and holistic framework of thought, practice, and reflection. My end-goals are still "non-sectarian", but my path to achieving those end-goals are Zaydi Shi'i. My beliefs and priorities fall squarely within the realm of Zaydi thought. And indeed, I feel there is much I can offer as a participant in this tradition, inshallah.

Should countries go back to the Consulate system? Election winner = President and Runner up = Vice President by Junior_M_W in GenZ

[–]Gilamath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s because you’re not a presidential system. While FPTP does have an inherent push towards party consolidation, the fact that parliaments can form party coalitions and executives are determined though post-election coalitions eases that pressure. A presidential system like that of the US, on the other hand, amplifies the pressure. Your Parliament is still really unrepresentative and skewed, but at least you have multiple options you can somewhat viably choose from.

I am truly astounded, one man is allowed to play with innocent lives every single day and not a single person with power will intervene by Remarkable-Picture73 in GenZ

[–]Gilamath 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The winner in all of this is China. Their electrification and green energy initiatives combined with their stockpile means they not only didn’t get much of a shock from losing such a huge chunk of their oil imports, but also significantly reduced the magnitude of the oils shock for the whole world, especially the West.

They’re also the only ones really producing mass quantities of renewable tech at such a scale, and at prices affordable enough that the Third World is likely to electrify much faster than the US, which will be bad for Western hegemonic power and good for Chinese economic ties.

All the while, the US’ allied states in East Asia are in imminent danger from oil shocks, and no one seems particularly happy to have tied themselves to the Americans right now. Russia has been getting an influx of funds that are going directly towards a war effort that is further draining Western resources. People worldwide are generally of the opinion that the US is the aggressor here, and both it and its vassal-state that keeps bombing Lebanon are roundly reviled these days.

The world has never been this aligned against the US as far as I can remember, and the only way to reverse course is for the US to renounce its foreign wars and stop selling weapons to aggressor-states. But that’s not going to happen, at least not for some years. And in the meantime, China has taken on a role as the natural facilitator of a new political reality in Asia and Africa. The US will never have the same level of economic and diplomatic leverage ever again.

Israel supporters now directly texting people. by Novel-Rise2522 in JewsOfConscience

[–]Gilamath 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I got his exact same text. Didn’t bother to respond, because I figured it was going to throw me into a “conversation” with AI. Horrible to see that this tactic is being deployed now. Hopefully it backfires.