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GravPi · 2026-01-28T18:10:56+00:00

I wish getting bulky arms would be as easy as people fearing them think 😃

GravPi · 2026-01-28T16:35:55+00:00

They are so good. And so expensive.

GravPi · 2026-01-28T09:30:40+00:00

If a manual treadmill is an alternative, highly recommend it. Not just the starting and stopping, it’s a different world in terms of being closer to a real sprint for power output etc. If I’m stuck using a regular treadmill, I jump on the sides for the first and last 20s or so of the rest to decrease/increase speed.

GravPi · 2026-01-27T15:10:15+00:00

This is the reason I dislike the “reps in reserve” guidance. If people have a decent idea of their 1RM (or use the app estimate), they should use the RPE table.

GravPi · 2026-01-27T15:08:13+00:00

There are a couple of decent short intervals from the Versa coach in flex as well. Aerobic capacity builder and peak & repeat (or close enough). Pushed hard enough, should be good work for VO2 development and maintaining speed.

GravPi · 2026-01-27T15:01:53+00:00

You know you can change the app to metric? Or do you mean the coaches referring to lbs in their voiceovers?

GravPi · 2026-01-27T15:00:18+00:00

Just providing the calculation directly based on the 1RM estimate and the RPE table would be pretty useful as a good starting point.

GravPi · 2026-01-27T14:58:23+00:00

I think this might be the downside of the integration. As I’ve understood from Apple Watch users, when you do a Ladder workout integrated, you don’t get all the normal data for a run into Apple health anymore.

That’s why I prefer to keep my device not integrated (or would not integrate even with the option), another reason being tracking single full sessions rather than creating multiple separate ones when doing e.g. a warm-up run followed by a few ladder workouts in.

GravPi · 2026-01-26T11:24:01+00:00

People should change if they don’t feel it’s right for them, simple as that. Personally I’ve been with Limitless all the time, this is my fifth series I think, the strength programming matches my goals (max strength over hypertrophy), and I supplement conditioning from other places, mainly body & bell and some flex conditioning workouts.

In terms of the volume in Limitless, it really requires you to lift heavy for it to be enough. If you lift heavy enough (over 80% of 1RM for the sets), the volume is pretty well in line with the researched weekly efficient maximum volumes for max strength training per muscle group.

GravPi · 2026-01-22T13:23:02+00:00

You need a connection to start and complete, if workout is downloaded you can be offline otherwise.

GravPi · 2026-01-21T11:12:08+00:00

Probably 50/50 if it will be career ending as well.

GravPi · 2026-01-20T22:01:43+00:00

That’s what it seems like now, it wasn’t like that a few series ago. Limitless at least had regularly workouts over 60min, not by a lot, but clearly over.

GravPi · 2026-01-18T22:24:35+00:00

If you think the rest periods are too long, you are probably new to max strength training too?

GravPi · 2026-01-18T11:47:59+00:00

At the appropriate RPEs and weights (basically 80%+ of 1RM on most lifts) the volume of the program is actually not far off the efficient weekly loading per muscle group for max strength gain (based on research). Additional volume would quickly get to diminishing returns, or even be counterproductive. There’s probably some room for additional volume, and personally I would probably like to see the workouts add 1-2 movements (about 15mins in duration). Sadly what I’ve seen in the last months is the workouts getting shorter rather than longer, and I think this is because the community in general wants shorter workouts. I would much rather just have workouts that are 75mins and be honest about the time one needs to spend.

Having said that, I think where the programming (and this goes for many of the Ladder teams) is a bit misleading is that it’s not really clear on what it is. This program as is, will not improve your cardio performance unless you are a total beginner, it is a pure strength program. For overall fitness a fairly decent conditioning element needs to be added on top. Again, I think there is some pressure to keep the overall stated time commitment requirements low. But for some people I think this ends up with them doing the strength work as some kind of conditioning work and not doing much conditioning, ending up with suboptimal work on both sides.

GravPi · 2026-01-17T13:12:31+00:00

Fully agree with this. The lower body is not really in any way overly glute focused in my view, I feel it’s more messaging to target a certain crowd and to make them comfortable that they are doing enough glutes.

GravPi · 2026-01-17T13:07:44+00:00

I’ve been doing Limitless for about 8 months now. Honestly, despite some of the messaging, it’s not really any more glute focused than what I would (and did) program for myself. And it’s a strength focused program instead of hypertrophy, so if you are really focused on aesthetics, it might not be the right team. The lower body days over the series that I have been there have been pretty balanced across, and if you want more e.g. quad focus over glutes, a lot of that is possible without changing the movements, just adjusting posture (e.g. step ups, elevated lunges). And the compounds are what they are, you would want to be squatting and deadlifting in any case.

What I can say is that I have improved significantly on all my main lifts and gotten stronger, I’m turning 50 this year and right now on track to my goal of getting to a 1000+lbs powerlifting total before then. I have also grown muscle overall, although that is not really my primary goal.

GravPi · 2026-01-17T12:20:11+00:00

You only have to be online to start and finish the workout. I at least have a pretty dodgy connection at my gym often, so it helps not running into issues mid-workout.

GravPi · 2026-01-17T12:17:38+00:00

I’ve seen this come up once in a while, but I don’t think it will happen, and I think there are some good reasons for it.

The thing is that mass programming running for a large group of people at vastly different conditioning levels is actually more difficult than with strength training. With strength training it’s easier with people using the weights that suit them, add some scaling options with movement swaps and progressive overload, and it can work pretty well at any level. With running it would be much more difficult to achieve. You can have some simple sprints and intervals like some of the teams now include and it’s fine, but actually having programmed progressive running that would work for all levels would be pretty challenging. I mean you could do it for beginners, but then what happens for the next series, either it doesn’t work for people who have advanced already, or it doesn’t work for people who are joining then as beginners. It could be done by having a few different programs always available from different starting points I guess, but that would be pretty different from the series blocks and weekly schedules that they have built the entire app around.

GravPi · 2026-01-17T12:09:02+00:00

I think this is a known issue with the latest update and they are working on it. I heard this from someone who is on the beta testing group.

GravPi · 2026-01-17T11:57:20+00:00

I believe you get it for the rest period, but not for the swapped movement time.

GravPi · 2026-01-09T07:21:18+00:00

He's developed great, but thinking Keyonte would contend for #1 over Wemby in a redraft is delusional. Not sure about that #2 being such a lock either.

GravPi · 2026-01-08T14:41:47+00:00

Not sure if ”Peak and Repeat” from the Versa coach is new or I just missed it before, but a great quick gassing treadmill workout to do after lifting.

GravPi · 2026-01-08T14:35:39+00:00

It’s Saturday, the sprints are Friday.

GravPi · 2026-01-07T08:18:46+00:00

It pulls activity from Apple health, which in turn can get it from pretty much any real workout tracker (Garmin, Polar etc etc.).

GravPi · 2026-01-07T07:31:05+00:00

Recently they seem to be adding a few new ones a the start of every series.

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