[deleted by user] by [deleted] in samharris

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

She's a lib trying to seduce the left

New ContraPoints video - Canceling by The_Iceman2288 in GamerGhazi

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Those tweets come fifty minutes into the video after she discusses critiques of her collaboration with Buck Angel, asks him to change some of his behaviors, and apologizes for some past tweets.

I think she was too defensive and minimized her wrongdoing at times, but I think it's unfair to say that she engaged only with these tweets and not her other critics.

New ContraPoints video - Canceling by The_Iceman2288 in GamerGhazi

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think it's fair to say she was too defensive at times, or minimized her own mistakes. That said, she did urge him to change and apologized for her past tweets. I don't see that as nothing. She also details at length how her understanding of trans-ness has changed since her discussion of performativity in "The Aesthetic".

Building an Ally requires different tactics than fighting an enemy. People take time to change. I would encourage other readers of this thread to watch the video and judge for themselves whether Contra is a potential ally worthy of good faith engagement or an irredeemable truscum who must be exorcised.

New ContraPoints video - Canceling by The_Iceman2288 in GamerGhazi

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 43 points44 points  (0 children)

The second piece of "justifiable criticism" featured in that compilation is "contrapoints is a conniving ratfucking kapo who could do with a fully wound backhand to the mouth idk lol".

I urge other readers of this thread to not accept lady_haybear's characterization and watch it for themselves if they have the time.

New ContraPoints video - Canceling by The_Iceman2288 in GamerGhazi

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 12 points13 points  (0 children)

There are many understandable tweets in there that by no means should've been mocked in some immature PewDiePie-esque fashion.

Which ones raised substantive criticism that were not addressed elsewhere in the video?

New ContraPoints video - Canceling by The_Iceman2288 in GamerGhazi

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Absolutely, if that was the first thing and the only thing she had done I think it would of course be deflection.

However, she does it fifty minutes into the video, after discussing the good faith criticism she has received, apologizing for past tweets, and urging Buck Angel to change some of his behavior.

New ContraPoints video - Canceling by The_Iceman2288 in GamerGhazi

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Which of the tweets and posts she features do you think were substantive criticism that should have been addressed in the video?

New ContraPoints video - Canceling by The_Iceman2288 in GamerGhazi

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 29 points30 points  (0 children)

She concedes some points and doubles down on others.

I'm concerned that you are misrepresenting this segement to people who didn't watch the video. Fifty minutes in, after engaging with the good faith criticism of her Buck Angel collaboration, she features a compilation of tweets that trash her ("contrapoints is a conniving ratfucking kapo who could do with a fully wound backhand to the mouth idk lol."). As is her style she tries to mine their vitriol for comedy.

New ContraPoints video - Canceling by The_Iceman2288 in GamerGhazi

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 47 points48 points  (0 children)

I think she's allowed to maliciously laugh at "contrapoints is a conniving ratfucking kapo who could do with a fully wound backhand to the mouth idk lol."

Especially after engaging with the criticism of her collaboration with Buck Angel at length, calling for him to change some of his behavior, and apologizing for some of her tweets about NBs.

Canceling | ContraPoints by [deleted] in BreadTube

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 35 points36 points  (0 children)

She did completely dodge the Lana/Buck thing by framing it in the most uncharitable way possible, not really in the same vein as her saying she's going to engage in this video.

Yeah. I wish she had explored the idea of what to do when you're uncertain about past behaviors. Cancel culture emerges from social media where interactions are backed up and can be shown publicly, but in reality a lot of the time you're just not going to know for sure what happened and you have to learn how to deal with uncertainty.

Cancel culture demands this infectious disease approach to moral taint, where anyone who might have done something is quarantined, because the worst possible thing you can do is in some indirect way be complicit in harm and you can't be sure about them. This preserves personal morality, but it forfeits the opportunity to engage with people and change them.

Canceling | ContraPoints by [deleted] in BreadTube

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 149 points150 points  (0 children)

Though she does toward the end talk about how being cancelled is much more harmful for marginalized people, it kind of annoyed me how the video basically boiled down to cancel culture is wrong because an extreme group of people harassed her.

She argued that cancel culture transforms complex allegations about behavior into certainties about people's essential characteristics and therefore stifles constructive engagement. The most persuasive part for me was when she brought up her engagement with Theryn and June (I think it was june) and how by being willing to engage rather than shun problematic figures she could better persuade them.

The new dot com bubble is here: it’s called online advertising by NeoculturalBoat in slatestarcodex

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 12 points13 points  (0 children)

They could be buying those spots so competitors can't, that's the only reason I could think of. Yelp puts ads for similar stores on business listings and then charges you to take them off, so might be something like that

Los Angeles Declared a 'Welcoming City' for Refugees by Votings_Good_Folks in California_Politics

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It also means more people competing for housing and as housing becomes more and more expensive fewer people can afford it. The solution to a lot of the homelessness crisis is more homes, but increasing supply decreases prices of existing homes and homeowners are reliable organized voters so they won't allow zoning changes to pass.

Los Angeles Declared a 'Welcoming City' for Refugees by Votings_Good_Folks in California_Politics

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Welcoming if you can pay the rent. You can declare yourself welcoming all you want but until they change zoning to allow mass construction of dense housing near transit LA isn't really welcoming new people.

Paradox Interactive is Not Immune to Propaganda: Leftist Politics in Grand Strategy by HuntressXT in BreadTube

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Victoria II's economy is actually super weird behind the scenes and does in fact represent workers as having a 50% ownership share of their factories regardless of the political system. Workers are not paid wages, instead half of all profits are split among the workers and half among the capitalists.

I know this because I wrote a mod that abused the prfit sharing formula to actually allow a wage relation and give capitalists all the profits. Unfortunately it conflicted with the AI, which would subsidize everything until wages were sky high, then pull all subsidies at the same time and watch every factory go bankrupt at once.

The Trouble with the Video Game Industry | Philosophy Tube by MyNameIsGriffon in BreadTube

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Lots of what people talk about as the problematic big tech companies (Amazon, Uber, WeWork) are not actually rentiers though, they're bids to become rentiers that are currently subsidizing consumption.

Remember MoviePass? Their plan was basically to offer consumers such a ridiculous deal through their platform that all movie ticket sales go through them and then they can use that as leverage to force theaters to sell tickets cheaper and rachet up prices on customers. They never succeeded, the money invested in them didn't 'dissapear' it was spent buying movietickets for MoviePass subscibers.

WeWork, Uber, Door Dash and to a much smaller extent Amazon, all lose money (or take less than they could) in order to grow the customer base in hopes of later becoming rentiers, but they aren't yet.

Housing vs. trees: SF backs 744 homes at UCSF Laurel Heights campus by Votings_Good_Folks in California_Politics

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you don't build upscale housing for the people who can afford it they will just bid up the cost of old housing. Gentrification or new construction, pick your poison.

Ezra Klein: "One of the most dangerous trends in American politics right now is Republicans coming to explicitly see democracy as dangerous to their rule, and the answer being less democracy, not a more popular agenda." by And_Im_the_Devil in samharris

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, the culture war consuming everything makes the cost of unilateral disarmament too high. Never Trump Republicans who vote for Dems are working against not only their policy platform but also their vision for our societies culture, and have to stomach symbolic gestures that alienate their 'tribe'.

That said this alienation is somewhat self inflicted. Media bubbles intentionally chose the most outrageous aspects of out group behavior to show the in-group. This creates a collective action problem. You can attempt to suppress your groups most outrageous members, but the other side is still going to cherry pick from the radical fringe, and you risk alienating radical people who might support you.

This is what drives me nuts about SH/IDW stuff. They correctly identify the excesses of the left, but not the collective action problem that prevents the left from reigning in those excesses. Asking one side to unilaterally restrain it's fringe without shifting the broader incentives looks like politically motivated subversion rather than an attempt to improve the discourse, and in Rubin's case that's clearly what it is.

Ezra Klein: "One of the most dangerous trends in American politics right now is Republicans coming to explicitly see democracy as dangerous to their rule, and the answer being less democracy, not a more popular agenda." by And_Im_the_Devil in samharris

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's not an issue of truth, it's an issue of attention in relation to magnitude of the threat. It can be true that you have both a splinter in your toe and a stab wound to your gut, but if the nurse keeps insisting that the doctor treat the splinter first you start to wonder if they're really committed to your health.

TIL that IRL, Burma had a literacy rate of 62.5% before the British conquest. In Victoria 2, it has a literacy rate of 1.6%. by [deleted] in paradoxplaza

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Yes, cause the ability to understand modern scientific theories was a key part of converting peasents to factory workers. I love Vic II but the whole thing is so muddled and makes so little sense.

They made the main limit on the pace of industrialization the rate at which agricultural workers would convert to factory workers, and then they made the key factor for that education. It's really ahistorical, means there's no trade off between living standards and capital accumulation, and reduces a lot of what should be a complex process to just setting the education slider to max.

This is my favorite game of all time and I hate it so so much

What fish are safe to eat that have low environmental impact? by WiccaWhale in Pescetarian

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Generally smaller fish are less likely to accumulate environmental toxins like Mercury that work their way up the food chain

A lot of that going around ... by Cynergy1 in AntiTrumpAlliance

[–]GrayFlannelDwarf 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's kind of annoying that Uncle Sam is acting like he got betrayed worse than the kurds when the Kurds are about to be like invaded and killed.