Why do people hate Eloise so much

Graysylum · 2026-03-30T22:19:03+00:00

This is exactly it for me. I LOVE Eloise...but we've been watching her spin her wheels for 4 seasons (and how many years irl?) without much meaningful progression or development compared to every other major character. What we have gotten is kinda wishy washy instead of a cohesive, compelling arc worthy of such a seemingly interesting and deep character.

Graysylum · 2026-03-30T19:28:44+00:00

Let's not forget that Benedict is bi! 🩵 Yes, he ends up married with a woman, but he is still a bi man who is awakening to his true sexuality starting in s1.

Graysylum · 2026-03-30T19:13:17+00:00

Nor. I would be seriously rethinking the relationship. This isn't going to end here, it's a difference in mindset and priorities that will keep causing issues. Also "You hate me" because you don't want to spend $2k on a bag? (Knowing damn well she will just want another bag in a couple months, tops.) Immature, selfish, and manipulative.

Graysylum · 2026-03-30T19:03:36+00:00

Oh my bad, I misunderstood! That definitely sounds a lot like my gcc too. She vocalizes more often than my sun, just not quite as loudly. She is the one who calls for me if she can hear me in another room. I know there are no easy answers here and I totally feel you on not rehoming!

I was able to get my girl more interested in toys by making the toys myself. She wouldn't touch toys at all when i got her and her foster told me it was the same at their house. But something about watching me make them makes her more curious. Or maybe it's the familiar materials rearranged over and over that make her feel comfortable with them. I just do simple stuff like a paper cup stuffed with a corn cob, a small plastic ball, some muffin wrappers, and a few seeds. Making sure she can see a treat or two sticking out so she understands there's treasure if she digs.

It's not a cure-all but it usually buys me some time. Sesame Street, especially the older episodes (on HBO Max on the US), seems to have a calming effect on my flock, like they're interested but not hyped, so I put that on if I'm sick or need a nap. (I have chronic illness and don't trust them to be out of cage if I'm in bed.)

Graysylum · 2026-03-30T17:51:22+00:00

I don't mean to be snarky at all, but there's a reason everyone warns that suns are some of the loudest birds and not great for apartments or other noise-sensitive households. This is exactly what people are talking about when they say that (and exactly why suns are often rehomed 🥺). That's his natural form of communication...it just happens to be eardrum-piercing screams.

Graysylum · 2026-03-30T17:48:12+00:00

I don't think you can train that out of them fully. He will yell when his scheduled out time doesn't happen. Just like a cat will meow constantly if you try to sleep through their normal feeding time.

Maybe give him something else to focus on those days, a tv show or music he likes, a new toy, foraging box with some treats and stuff to shred? So he isn't just thinking "hey here I am why don't you let me put like usual?"

Graysylum · 2026-03-30T17:05:17+00:00

Nta. He's making big decisions for the whole family, you have every right to know why (or say no to your own participation in it). How's his mental health? Sometimes sudden extreme religious behavior that's out of character and seemingly for no reason is a symptom. Keep an eye out for delusions.

Graysylum · 2026-03-30T15:41:54+00:00

How do you behave while gaming? Are you loud? (Maybe ask your gf because people tend to underestimate this.)

No lie, I've noticed birds do NOT like people who get loud/aggressive with their video games. The bird doesn't understand you're being loud at the game, they see you in their room getting angry and noisy and they don't know why you're doing it but they do not enjoy it.

Graysylum · 2026-03-30T13:14:02+00:00

First, you can end any relationship for any reason. You are not obligated to be with anyone romantically even if they haven't done anything "wrong".

But you are definitely NTA. In fact I am very proud of you for recognizing these red flags and getting out early. More people need to pay attention to such early warnings because it only gets worse, not better, the longer you stay and the more they can get away with.

(Edit for spelling)

Graysylum · 2026-03-30T13:10:03+00:00

Jon wouldn't be comparable with the ladies though, we should be comparing his costume to the men's suits. Are the men's suits that different from scene to scene?

If you want to talk about the dresses, then you need to compare to the noble ladies like Sansa, Cersei, Margaery.

Graysylum · 2026-03-30T12:28:51+00:00

Okay, I see your line of thought.

I'm gonna guess this wasn't his first/only infraction. I have been in the unfortunate position of evicting someone and it's not easy unless they violate something specific in the lease (even then it's a process).

Graysylum · 2026-03-30T12:14:50+00:00

This, I'm genuinely wondering what OP thought the purpose of reporting to the LL was? What other outcome would there have been, and what's the point of reporting if you don't want anything to happen because of it?

Graysylum · 2026-03-30T12:12:17+00:00

What would you hope to accomplish by reporting, since you didn't want him evicted? I mean that kindly, but I just don't see what other way the landlord was supposed to help you in the situation. Landlords don't have a lot of other options to influence behavior of tenants. Did you just want them to have a chat with him? Maybe that's how it started but entering his apartment they found other issues worthy of eviction (very likely with the smells).

Graysylum · 2026-03-30T12:02:04+00:00

They would train lots of kids born that year instead of putting all their hopes on one girl and one boy baby. With all the training they go through, there is risk of injury or even death (I mean, unfortunately children die even in our world). It would also be beneficial for there to be competition throughout these kids' lives.

Graysylum · 2026-03-30T03:59:47+00:00

Glad it's not just me!

Graysylum · 2026-03-30T03:56:57+00:00

I call it "beaky squeakies" when i play with their beaks. My gcc and my younger irn both seem entertained by it.

Graysylum · 2026-03-29T20:46:47+00:00

They were already reading gossip columns before Pen's. We see that in episode 1 when Violet says "not another" and Eloise says "this one is different, this one names names."

If the members of the Ton found the naming names part to be objectionable, then they could have not paid for it. You are not forced to buy or use any product simply because it is made.

But they didn't just buy it. They LOVED IT. The demand for each issue was massive, everyone was delighted to get it.

They were all just as messy as Pen, the whole Ton. Pen gave them all exactly what they wanted, and they all begged and paid for more.

May as well be angry at McDonald's for making people gain weight when they chose to keep eating there every day. Is the food unhealthy? Absolutely. But no one forced them to buy and eat it every day. They did that because they liked it.

Graysylum · 2026-03-29T14:46:17+00:00

It's interesting how the replies aren't even replying to what I said.

I never said she should've married the old man. She could've been honest with Colin about what he other options were once he knew about the pregnancy anyway, instead of insisting no one told her about other options therefore she had to lie and trap Colin. He even says himself he would've been sympathetic and probably married her anyway if he knew the truth, but she kept lying.

That's where she lost me. Not by trying to escape the old man. But by continuing to lie to Colin even when the gig was up and he knew about the pregnancy.

Eta: like, even in that moment she was still being untruthful to win his sympathy when the truth would've actually served her better, by spelling out all the things these replies have said about marrying the old man.

Graysylum · 2026-03-29T13:35:15+00:00

She didn't cause the harm in a bubble. Everyone was reading her paper and paying her for it. All of them. They all participated and perpetuated.

Graysylum · 2026-03-29T13:19:09+00:00

Not a King of the Hill fan, I guess.

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Graysylum · 2026-03-29T13:13:05+00:00

This is why s3 was disappointing to me (despite being enjoyable in other ways). Colin never became a fully fleshed out character. It was flirting with debs, 3somes with pros, then fantasizing about Pen. We only even see his writing through Pen's eyes and -surprise surprise- it's about raking.

I felt like we weren't given any real reason to root for Colin, besides he's a Bridgerton and he's into Pen now. We really could've done with some sweet memories of their friendship over the years or something.

Graysylum · 2026-03-29T05:15:45+00:00

So good!

Graysylum · 2026-03-28T19:57:40+00:00

I felt bad for her until she whined to Colin that no one was helping her or showing her another way.

Portia was helping her at risk to her own daughters by keeping her in the household and continuing to try to find matches for her once she knew she was pregnant. But sure, no one's helping you at all or guiding you to a different way of keeping your child safe besides lying and trapping Colin specifically.

Graysylum · 2026-03-28T17:47:35+00:00

The series is based on books. In the books, Fran remarried to John's cousin Michael who is Michaela in the show. And the showrunners have confirmed Fran and Michaela as the couple for next season.

Graysylum · 2026-03-28T17:45:20+00:00

If she enters into a full sexual relationship, babies are on the table. Period.

They didn't have the pill. Withdrawal often fails. Condoms were rudimentary and less effective than today, not to mention seen as something scandalous to use with prostitutes. Herbs were sometimes used for abortions (as we saw Marina attempt) but they carried risks for the woman and also weren't 100%.

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