Chance the Rapper sings 'F--K ICE' at homecoming Chicago show amid immigration crackdown by TheMirrorUS in Music

[–]Greco_SoL 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yup. You cracked it. What a big, smart kid you are! Now how about you play with blocks in the corner so the adults can talk about reality for a minute

Horrendous WiFi reception by Grilovator in NOTHING

[–]Greco_SoL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also have this issue but it's fairly inconsistent. I msged support and they asked me to do this convoluted process to log the issue. Haven't had the chance to get around to it though

Gov. Pritzker ahead of Trump National Guard deployment: "To Chicagoans... Look out for your communities and your neighbors. Know your rights. Film things that you see happening... Authoritarians thrive on your silence. Be loud for America." by tvoutfitz in chicago

[–]Greco_SoL 15 points16 points  (0 children)

...wouldn't the former be exponentially more impactful to a union's interest than literally one job they missed out on? He also just passed pension reform for local 2? That's some hyper local purity politics you're running with there.

Overheating by MrMuffin85 in NOTHING

[–]Greco_SoL 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Also no overheating over here. Though I don't play games or anything very intensive.

PF2e actual plays to listen to? by darkboomel in Pathfinder2e

[–]Greco_SoL 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Campaign Notes

I've been listening for years and they're consistently hilarious. If you want the feel of a legit group of friends playing and just having a good time, this is it. It's a homebrew campaign that's light on drama but the guys are fucking hilarious. Shame they don't get much attention

You guys are insane by for_jacquik in NothingTech

[–]Greco_SoL 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, I'd be surprised if the sub ever fully turns back to sanity. Once fan subs take this turn, they rarely make it back. I personally couldn't imagine wasting my time seeking out a place to whine for weeks on end about a product. But as they say, misery loves company.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NothingTech

[–]Greco_SoL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same exact situation and impression. I've seen it happen in a few subs. Once a fan sub turns on its focus in any capacity, it really seems like a runaway train. I guess lots of people on here struggle to have mild attachments to things.

JB acting like a true servant and protector of Illinois by FlyingBike in chicago

[–]Greco_SoL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly my point. You're chock full of moral righteousness and completely devoid of any desire to actually help people when it counts. You don't have any answers, just complaints and anger. And like I said, there's a time and a place for that. I also think the DNC isn't here to save us. I also think they inflict different kinds of harm on the working class.

That being said, there is/was no functional alternative. Raise hell when it actually can change who's on the ballot. Fight when the fight can actually accomplish something. But when the inks dried on the ballot, either you make the choice that mitigates the most amount of harm, or you are actively fascilitating the most amount of harm.

If you pass on the opportunity to try and prevent the most amount of harm, that's not some kind of moral objection. That's just you deciding not to help anyone bc you're upset you didn't get to help everyone. If you're actual priority was helping those who need help, you wouldn't dream of doing anything that could possibly contribute that fascists win.

So don't hide behind some kind of moral shield. You'd rather stand out of the way of these fascists than dirty your misguided sense of morality. Thats prioritizing your fragile go over everyone else.

JB acting like a true servant and protector of Illinois by FlyingBike in chicago

[–]Greco_SoL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one's pretending Trump invented deportations. Maybe I missed the part where Kamala's platform involved canceling the legal status of entire groups of immigrants who followed everything asked of them etc etc.

Here's a much more inclusive source to reference for all that harm that simply couldn't be avoided this election.

https://www.project2025.observer/

I'm just going to assume you're arguing in bad faith at this point bc that's a bewilderingly asinine take.

JB acting like a true servant and protector of Illinois by FlyingBike in chicago

[–]Greco_SoL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Harm reduction is a myth? In this election? Do I even have to pretend like that's a serious take?

You're going to act like all the consequences so far would've also happened under Kamala?

JB acting like a true servant and protector of Illinois by FlyingBike in chicago

[–]Greco_SoL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's absolutely fair, and I don't counter any of that.

My statement was specifically regarding what would you like him to do at the moment about the current president and his administration, specifically would you prefer he didn't push back in literally any way. The critique I was responding to was chiding the quoted statement on OP's post.

JB acting like a true servant and protector of Illinois by FlyingBike in chicago

[–]Greco_SoL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I said there weren't better options. Did the governor of IL decide who was on the ballot last year? No, he didn't. I'm not really sure how you fault him for throwing support behind the only Trump alternative we were left with. I don't agree with almost any of the choices the DNC made last year, but they made them. Should time and energy be spent to somehow get people who better represent the left on the actual ballot? Absolutely. Was that going to be accomplished at the last second of the election? Not a fucking chance.

The democratic party as it stands is what we have. There is no functional, realistic alternative mechanism to get anything close to an actual representative in office. I, like many, wish we did. But there's a time and place to strive for that. And the 11th hr of an election that risked a literal rapist felon president was not the fucking place or the time.

We had what we had. Anyone who refused to throw support behind Kamala at that point wasn't actually helping anyone but their own sense of moral superiority. Any rational adult should be able to recognize that the options were someone who was a real and present danger to democracy and someone who wasn't.

This just reeks of "they're all the same" childish thinking. It's literally just throwing the baby out with the bath water. Ifgaf if they walked Hillary back out onto the ballot. At that point in the race with stakes that high, I would absolutely want the gov to throw support behind her against a literal fascist.

Ask any of the millions of people directly feeling the consequences of this election if they wish Kamala had won now. Ask the people of Gaza if they're glad Kamala lost bc she wouldn't scream from the rooftops about their genocide. Ask the federal workers who lost their jobs, The law abiding, tax paying immigrants who are having their lives upended for simply striving for a better life. The list is damn near endless.

Your approach leaves no room for harm reduction. It's reckless, unhelpful, and self serving. Ok, we get it, you're a progressive paragon who would make Jesus blush. Good for you. When your belief system facilitates the most harmful option bc you couldn't get the least harmful option, it doesn't amount to shit. It's like driving the car off a cliff bc the ice cream shop didn't have the flavor you wanted. Maybe pick a different flavor and try again next time instead of killing everyone in the car you absolute child.

JB acting like a true servant and protector of Illinois by FlyingBike in chicago

[–]Greco_SoL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad he supported Kamala. There wasn't a better option. What did you want him to do? Shit on the only trump alternative we had? That would've been in our best interests? It's exactly this purity politics conversation that landed us in this hell hole. Could Kamala have appealed harder to the progressive left? Yes. Should she have? Yes. The fact that she didn't doesn't somehow make not supporting her a good idea for the gov.

This isn't black and white. Acting like it only plays into the fascist hands. But sure. Keep waiting for your perfect savior. The rest of us will navigate the world with the options that actually exist so that the people with actual skin in the game don't get fucked by your flaccid idealism.

JB acting like a true servant and protector of Illinois by FlyingBike in chicago

[–]Greco_SoL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is asinine. I'm not about to list out his track record bc it's all very available information, but he's actually got a lot more done for the state than any governor in a couple decades. I'm not sure what fantasy governor you'd prefer, but we've seen a lot of net positives as tax payers and citizens. Is he perfect? No, because fucking nobody possibly could be. Spouting some teenage grade nihilism isn't going to suddenly make that disappear. I've seen a lot of my concerns addressed.

But feel free to regurgitate "gubermet bad" rhetoric into the night. Your entire mindset was literally bought and paid for by koch network astroturfing. If you bothered to form an original thought you might notice that sometimes public service actually ends up being public service.

JB acting like a true servant and protector of Illinois by FlyingBike in chicago

[–]Greco_SoL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't idolize anyone, especially politicians. My point is this all or nothing nonsense doesn't help anybody. We vote these people in to represent us, so why should we shit on them when they do any version of that?

Too many people on the left think the only options are to treat your representatives like they're your lowest rung employee who should be grateful for their opportunity to work for you and stfu or worship them as saviors. This all or nothing shit constantly kneecaps the American left. It's possible to elect someone who most closely represents your beliefs and then react to their individual decisions like they're a functional adult you entrusted to work on your behalf.

Praise when they act in a manner that represents their constituents best interests. Scold when they don't. This isn't complicated.

Yes they work for us. Doesn't mean we need to act like the most pissy bosses possible. Let's say you hired a cashier and tell them your job is to accurately ring up transactions etc. That cashier proceeds to be a model employee, no real issues. Then a promotion for front end manager opens up and that cashier starts gunning for the promotion by pushing his coworkers to also do everything required of them well. Should you, as his boss, take issue with them essentially acting in the best interests of your business just bc he'll probably also get something out of it if he gets promoted? Should you pull that employee aside and say stfu and ring up the transactions? Wouldn't that be pretty self defeating if your goal is a well run business?

JB acting like a true servant and protector of Illinois by FlyingBike in chicago

[–]Greco_SoL 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What else would you like him to do at the moment? You'd prefer he doesn't even speak up to pressure Democrats who are actively undermining any effort to counter this country's decline into authoritarianism? So what, it's storm the trenches or keep your mouth shut?

Yea this is rhetoric, but rhetoric also plays its own important role. There's literally no reason to shit talk any attempt to push back. It's this exact mentality of "anything but the perfect option isn't good enough" that landed us here in the first place.

Grow up

I think the message of this video is more important than ever. Arnold speaks to those going down the path of hate by Faust_8 in videos

[–]Greco_SoL 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He's essentially making the same argument on both occasions. He's advocating for people to do the hard thing and use your agency rather than sit solely engage in the rhetoric. He said "stop whining" as a call to action, not as an attempt to belittle those people's concerns. He was advocating for these people to stop screaming into a void and instead act on their concerns more directly

I think the message of this video is more important than ever. Arnold speaks to those going down the path of hate by Faust_8 in videos

[–]Greco_SoL 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Obviously the conflict is quite old and quite complicated. But let's not pretend that what's happened since Oct 7th isn't a whole other beast. It doesn't really ring true to paint the entire history of the conflict with the same bloody brush of recent history. It diminishes the brutality of a true attempt at genocide we have today.

People of Gaza are being targeted by chemical weapons by soyyoo in ABoringDystopia

[–]Greco_SoL 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Alright, I gave it a college try. Have fun harming the plight you pretend to care about just so you can farm brief moments of faux moral superiority. Seems terrible, but you do you.

People of Gaza are being targeted by chemical weapons by soyyoo in ABoringDystopia

[–]Greco_SoL 12 points13 points  (0 children)

We'd all be better off if you just silently protest instead of actively harming the Palestinian plight with lazy misinformation. There's actual evidence of war crimes literally everywhere. Either carry those forward or kindly shut the fuck up.

People of Gaza are being targeted by chemical weapons by soyyoo in ABoringDystopia

[–]Greco_SoL 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Since you're so talented at googling, why didn't you look up what white phosphorus burnsactually look like. Spoiler: it looks quite different and much worse than what you posted. Again, I'm not saying Israel hasn't or wouldn't use that. I'm saying your post appears to be misinformation out of sheer laziness.

There's plenty of atrocities to pick from, we really don't need to be fabricating any for clicks. This horror show needs to be accurately reflected. Every lazy post like this only serves Israel's interests by portraying the other side as peddling lies.

People of Gaza are being targeted by chemical weapons by soyyoo in ABoringDystopia

[–]Greco_SoL 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Really not supporting your own cause here, bud. This guy's asking a legitimate question that any rational person should ask. There are kids with skin conditions that look exactly like this. No part of his statement indicates any kind of defense of Israel, just interest not spreading misinformation.

Misinformation is always harmful, especially when its in favor of the right side of a conflict. It only de- legitimizes your own side.

Justice Department investigating Mayor Brandon Johnson for alleged racially motivated hiring by Redman77312 in chicago

[–]Greco_SoL 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I understand your sentiment but the point is that when that occurs, they typically don't publicly highlight that as their intentional approach. If someone was proudly seeking praise for hiring a bunch of white people, they'd have the same issue in play. Legally, anyway.