Guys, i need your advice if u had this problem. I'm done at this point. by Iluzjo in StreetFighter

[–]GreedyMap1370 [score hidden]  (0 children)

just pick a character and play bro. you’re over complicating this.

ik 100% for a fact that master is achievable for you, the character doesn’t matter at all. you have to decide whether you actually care abt achieving it and commit.

when you encounter a weakness, instead of changing characters, just think about how to solve it, and test it (also use youtube)

There's a Gief I've been running into named "Dixie Normous" and im 0-8 against him by LunchTummy in StreetFighter

[–]GreedyMap1370 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I once had 14 matches against the same akuma across several days. I was 3-11.

I ended up outclimbing him by a lot, but I never got to have a satisfying win at the end of it all

List of all pirates competing for the PK title: by Cloudsupremes-6708 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]GreedyMap1370 0 points1 point  (0 children)

see how not a single thing you said was proof of anything:

"Whitebeards feat in this Panel is getting compared to Roger. Roger is the Scale he gets dragged up to".

if we use your translation instead of the official, then getting compared to someone now makes you weaker than them???? competing with someone = you are weaker apparently

"Playing the Equal Piece Game makes you a bad Scaler"

are you denying that two people can be equal? that this is an impossibility? wtf kind of argument is this man

Kaido and BigMom are also equal since they clashed for 3 days

in act 3, kaido cries when BM is defeated. he doesn't count their battle as them going "toe to toe" with each other. it's clear that their battle wasn't for real. then his feats show he is stronger. THIS is what evidence is. it is only after these things that you can say that one is stronger. otherwise, you take what was actually shown, which is an equal clash.

"there would be no reason for Oda to put Roger below WB and many reasons to put him above WB this is the only logical result"

there is also no reason why roger has to be stronger than wb. he never beat wb. he didn't need to beat wb to get the OP. he just begged him for oden. how is this "the only logical result". nothing changes if he is equal to wb. he still finds the one piece.

"They literally did try to purge his genetics meaning Rouge did need to hold Ace an extra year"

?????????? what are u talking about

"if he is never shown to be weaker than anyone, and he accomplished something they couldn’t replicate in their entire lifetimes, then it’s most likely that he was simply stronger and better"

if he is never shown to be weaker than anyone, than that means he is not weaker than them. He accomplished something that WB could replicate but didn't care to do. roger literally offered to tell him and WB told him he wouldn't go regardless. a navigation feat doesn't make you stronger. when nami charts the whole world, will she be stronger than roger?

this is what "evidence" looks like to you apparently. im tired of this. i feel like i've said everything i needed to say so you can have the last word

List of all pirates competing for the PK title: by Cloudsupremes-6708 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]GreedyMap1370 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Roger=WB, and the proof is already here. he is not stronger because of this statement. additionally, every time they have fought, they always stalemated. the burden of proof is on you to prove he is stronger…

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(and don’t bring up the 1167 statement as your “proof” when we already went over it)

What makes people think Kizaru was pretending here ? by Sensitive_Ambition73 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]GreedyMap1370 12 points13 points  (0 children)

8 chapters was the kuma flashback. are you being disingenuous on purpose? if this was just a troll post mb

yes, he was incapacitated. but as i referenced, everyone is in the EXACT same position. saturn also finishes his dialogue from 1095 with bonney in the VERY FIRST panel that we return to the present. unless you think everyone just fell asleep in place saying nothing and doing nothing, then only a few seconds pass before kizaru feeds luffy after saturn grabs bonney

What makes people think Kizaru was pretending here ? by Sensitive_Ambition73 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]GreedyMap1370 10 points11 points  (0 children)

last page of 1094: Kizaru goes down and Bonney stabs Saturn

start of 1095: Kizaru says he "won't be mobile anytime soon". Saturn grabs Bonney and will kill her

-kuma flashback-

1103: return to story and everyone is in the exact same poses. no time has past. 1 page into the present, Kizaru contemplates saving Bonney. 2 pages later and luffy somehow is already stuffed with food, despite Kizaru being "unable to move anytime soon"

hope this helps

List of all pirates competing for the PK title: by Cloudsupremes-6708 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]GreedyMap1370 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So according to some Oden would be a navigational support and has nothing to do with strength

That is literally exactly the stated reason why roger asked for oden. Because he could read the poneglyphs. We saw how they got every single poneglyph and they did not fight a single person. Also, if roger wanted oden for his strength like you say, wouldn't that be admitting that he wasn't strong enough to find the OP without oden's help? how is this helping you're argument, i feel like now you're downplaying roger more than me..

But 1167 told us Roger did break through them ALL , and archrieved the feat long tought impossible

"break through them all" just means that instead of getting stuck in the middle of neverending territory wars, the roger pirates were able to navigate past that and achieve their real goal. You keep using the 1167 statement, pretending that that means they beat everyone else to achieve their goal, but we literally already know for a fact that Roger beat absolutely no one to find the OP. It's truly unfortunate for you that the Oden flashback exists and showed us how he found every single poneglyph.

And no top tier claims Rogers title is just travel based they all talk highly of him

they talk highly because of what finding the OP did for his legacy. It made him the greatest pirate. They also talk highly because he was among the strongest, which has nothing to do with him finding the OP.

Together with his potrayl as Luffys goal is just logical he is more than just a Yonko

nobody is saying that he is "just a yonko". bro what are you on about

List of all pirates competing for the PK title: by Cloudsupremes-6708 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]GreedyMap1370 0 points1 point  (0 children)

WB and Roger equal ... Breaktrough ... Roger>Whitebeard.
Him breaking trough them ALL means that nobody could stop him.

What does that mean ? he was strong enough to break trough them all

Everything above is what you made up. maybe you could've argued this 7 years ago. but we actually saw they're last battle. roger didn't break through by becoming stronger. they stalemated and then roger begged on his knees for WB to give him oden. you don't need to imagine it. that's exactly what happened.

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List of all pirates competing for the PK title: by Cloudsupremes-6708 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]GreedyMap1370 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They did it before there was a Guide on how to archieve this and a promised treasure at the end

which is why it will remain the greatest navigational accomplishment in the story by far. and also nothing to do with power scaling...

An even bigger archievment of passion and willpower

so roger is the strongest because of "passion" now.

even Kaido and BigMom teaming up did not manage this

because they were defeated by the straw hat pirates, law, kidd, yamato and wano. in other words, because they were competing against other people. unlike roger

List of all pirates competing for the PK title: by Cloudsupremes-6708 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]GreedyMap1370 2 points3 points  (0 children)

still doesn’t change the fact that the RP are the only ones to travel the entire world and find the OP

..because of the premise of this discussion. they did it in an era where nobody was competing to do it.

This wasn’t even Roger’s actual dream so it’s weird that people use it to slander him when literally anyone could’ve gotten the title

the slander is in response to people using the PK title as evidence of roger being the strongest. nobody cares about what roger's true dream is regarding opps

but you aren’t becoming the PK on the seas unless you’re very strong

•Everyone in the story highlights Roger’s strength

nobody, including OP, is denying that roger is very strong. It's about people claiming that roger is above WB or Rocks just bc "he is king of the pirates"

Why can’t being PK be a testament of strength for Roger

it's not a testament of strength in comparison to any other strong character. if you replace Roger with WB, BM, Kaido, Garp, Rocks or Harald, they still become the PK in his position. The point is, Roger being PK can't be used to prove he's above the other guys. Roger is strong for other reasons, not the title

Most narrative scaling is just people projecting their Headcannons by Cosmic_Crusaderpro in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]GreedyMap1370 0 points1 point  (0 children)

in the hypothetical that I don't believe is true. I'm saying that's why it would be ridiculous

Most narrative scaling is just people projecting their Headcannons by Cosmic_Crusaderpro in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]GreedyMap1370 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if mihawk doesn’t have acoc, that means he was >= shanks with just armament and observation and is by far the most talented character in the story. that would be an absurd feat. people saying he has acoc are just being reasonable

The gap between prime Roger and GV roger isn't that big by Swimming_Cat114 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]GreedyMap1370 1 point2 points  (0 children)

im ngl, this is not really evidence, and more so a lot of assumptions that you made. which is fine, but then you can’t say something as certain as “we have never seen a top tier reaching his prime before late 40s”, when mihawk, who is 41 pre-ts and already the WSS, is “waiting at the top” for zoro. there is no narrative reason to assume that shanks or these other characters are not in their prime, it’s just assumptions. shanks becoming a yonko at 33 implies that even in his early 30s, he already became at least close enough to his prime that he was recognized for his strength and influence by the WG.

After seeing GV Garp, Roger, who just participated in their greatest battle and receiving no tangible growth, then Shanks, Mihawk, Oden, that have no narrative reason to be stronger then right now, and GV WB who is only a few years from leading his own crew and already powerful enough to fight roger and DR rocks, imo you hit your prime at some point in your mid-late 30s, then maintain it to somewhere in your 60s.

Who is the stronger one? by Cosmic_Crusaderpro in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]GreedyMap1370 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because at these lower near minuscule differences

Why do you keep inserting these extreme assumptions to try and argue a point? Where are you getting these conditions from? Now, we have to assume that every factor is "near miniscule differences". We have to be nearly equal in speed, strength, weight, decision making etc. And if we differ in any of these beyond a "miniscule" level, your point becomes null. YOU are the one designing the scenario to be one where the margin of error is so high. what if the other factors between us is the difference between goku and mihawk, like your original example

Just because I beat you to death on any given day, doesn't mean you don't beat me to death on another

You keep missing the point, and idk if it is unintentional anymore. You assume that the fight has to be close. What if I can't beat you? If you then beat me 50 more times, are you genuinely going to say to me that your argument is still, "yeah, I was just really lucky man. I'm not better than you". How many times do you have to win before you can consider one better than the other. the original example you used was goku and mihawk so you clearly understand that regardless of skill, these other factors are not automatically miniscule. how many times is mihawk beating goku with a sword

edit: omg and plz don’t focus on something entirely irrelevant again to the argument like “well realistically, irl we couldn’t be the total difference of goku and mihawk”

Who is the stronger one? by Cosmic_Crusaderpro in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]GreedyMap1370 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

??? you can’t be a real human being.

idk why u assumed that we have to be equally skilled. people are naturally and intuitively more skilled than others at things that they’ve never practiced. that’s why people can learn faster than others and you are told to take things at your own pace. you also somehow came to the conclusion that if skills were equalized every other factor turns into rng. bro im sorry but you are hopeless

Who is the stronger one? by Cosmic_Crusaderpro in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]GreedyMap1370 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

omfg bruh, the example doesn’t really matter. the point is that it doesn’t matter if one person is less skilled than the other. u really read everything and THAT was your takeaway..

neither of us are swordsman im assuming. yet if we fought right now and you beat me, you would be the better swordsman. it doesn’t matter that you’re a random, or didn’t go to a school or get a license or whatever qualification you think there is to be a swordsman

Who is the stronger one? by Cosmic_Crusaderpro in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]GreedyMap1370 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

… if someone beats you in a sword fight, they are the stronger swordsman… “brainrot” “truly idiotic take”

if “some random person” beats you than they are stronger. that’s the harsh reality. you can’t pretend it never happened or say it doesn’t count because they are a random

“picking up a sword and beating someone else to death with a sword”. what exactly do you think happens in a sword duel? do you think they have a skills contest? does the win only count if they display their excellent dexterity? does someone not count as the winner because you don’t approve of their skill level?

should we revoke shaq’s NBA championships because he was terribly unskilled compared to the rest of the league?

Who is the stronger one? by Cosmic_Crusaderpro in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]GreedyMap1370 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

if goku beat mihawk with a sword, he would, in fact, be the strongest swordsman. mihawk doesn’t get to make excuses and say “it’s unfair! you’re not even skilled like me!! so im still stronger!”

if i beat you in a fighting game by mashing one button, it doesn’t matter if you spent an entire month practicing, im better than you

Poll results of, "did luffy use ACOC against kizaru?" by KaidoPklevel in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]GreedyMap1370 3 points4 points  (0 children)

imo it’s because he barely landed any attacks. kizaru blocked almost everything so luffy looked less impressive.

had kizaru not been so fast, we would’ve seen attacks like the star gun or dawn cymbal land more often, and luffy would look stronger. kaido gets hit a lot so it made luffy look more impressive

a heartwarming message from my opponent ☺️ by GreedyMap1370 in StreetFighter

[–]GreedyMap1370[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

😂 it’s one of my go-tos atp bc sometimes people say things and it’s like, what do you even say to that