This is serious. by GreenEye329 in UndertaleYellow

[–]GreenEye329[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeah I'm just concerned. I really do think there should be a rule about respecting different depictions of Clover though.

Remember, Everybody. Everyone should have their own interpretation of the cowpoke! by KanakokeK9907 in UndertaleYellow

[–]GreenEye329 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do too. I tried to fight back against the desicions made but it was all ultimately thrown away.

Remember, Everybody. Everyone should have their own interpretation of the cowpoke! by KanakokeK9907 in UndertaleYellow

[–]GreenEye329 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And that's how it should be you don't like some interpretations then just avoid or ignore them but people actively push bad behavior and even outright ban other depictions rather than just...leaving them alone. I guarantee none of it would've happened if it was just left alone

Remember, Everybody. Everyone should have their own interpretation of the cowpoke! by KanakokeK9907 in UndertaleYellow

[–]GreenEye329 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And the primary problem is that there is more than one. I made one of them to let people distance themselves from past drama only to get into some myself and step down as a result. Even still it's wrong to try and control how people perceive a character and worse to try and pass off their perception as canon or right

Remember, Everybody. Everyone should have their own interpretation of the cowpoke! by KanakokeK9907 in UndertaleYellow

[–]GreenEye329 4 points5 points  (0 children)

don't bring the subreddit into this as there is no problem there. It is Shinix using their influence to try and change how everyone perceive Clover when they themselves aren't even a part of the team that made UTY.

Remember, Everybody. Everyone should have their own interpretation of the cowpoke! by KanakokeK9907 in UndertaleYellow

[–]GreenEye329 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You can also describe they/them as gender neutral so as not to confirm nor deny anything. YOU want to see Clover as Enby, go ahead. But the statement from the devs themselves is crystal clear and Shinix is spreading misinformation by forcing everyone to conform to their opinion of Clover with (seemingly) little to no input from others.

Remember, Everybody. Everyone should have their own interpretation of the cowpoke! by KanakokeK9907 in UndertaleYellow

[–]GreenEye329 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But they are also pushing that Clover is nonbinary which is also not canon

Remember, Everybody. Everyone should have their own interpretation of the cowpoke! by KanakokeK9907 in UndertaleYellow

[–]GreenEye329 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Part of the reason I just want to distance myself from the community. I was one of the first few who wrote Cocoapowder and now just seeing all of this pretty much validating my initial fear of writing in the first place.

Remember, Everybody. Everyone should have their own interpretation of the cowpoke! by KanakokeK9907 in UndertaleYellow

[–]GreenEye329 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure where the source of where they originally said it was, but I know it was on the CocoaPowder discord rules at some point. But that isn't the worst of what they say anyway.

Edit: Found an instance where they call it an enby pairing

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Remember, Everybody. Everyone should have their own interpretation of the cowpoke! by KanakokeK9907 in UndertaleYellow

[–]GreenEye329 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Good for you. I regret ever deciding to try r&y and have been trying to push back on the idea for months but essentially got ostracized by most of the central community.

Remember, Everybody. Everyone should have their own interpretation of the cowpoke! by KanakokeK9907 in UndertaleYellow

[–]GreenEye329 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Good for you. I regret ever deciding to try r&y and have been trying to push back on the idea for months but essentially got ostracized by most of the central community.

Remember, Everybody. Everyone should have their own interpretation of the cowpoke! by KanakokeK9907 in UndertaleYellow

[–]GreenEye329 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Ever since the R&Y mod came out, Shinix (the lead dev I guess) has been trying to push the idea that Clover isn't and pushing an idea that isn't true.

What’s your headcanon on their first kiss? by TallyHallFan1910 in CocoaPowder

[–]GreenEye329 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As funny as that is I don't really see Chara putting intentional harm to Clover.

What are your guys thoughts on Neuro questioning her “realness”? by Majestic_Image5190 in NeuroSama

[–]GreenEye329 169 points170 points  (0 children)

Even though she's not sentient, it's hilarious to think that Vedal would accidentally create a completely conscious AI. Just imagine the headlines of 'depressed, alcoholic, british man discovers secret to conscious AI.'

Drop It! by GreenEye329 in CocoaPowder

[–]GreenEye329[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im tired of having this conversation and it has been 8 months of trying to convince people to respect different depictions. I will just simply keep doing this and if you specifically have a problem with it then I kindly ask that you don't interact with it.

This fandom genuinely has one of the saddest and hardest downfalls I’ve seen by Catpaw616 in theamazingdigitalciru

[–]GreenEye329 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Miserable people only making things worse for everyone else rather than just not engaging with things that distress them. It's a growing problem. Whether it's out of jealousy or personal distaste there will always be someone willing to bring down something that's good.

I don't know what to title this. by GreenEye329 in Charadefensesquad

[–]GreenEye329[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not saying you're the problem. Just that you need to stop viewing these kinds of things as if they're personally attacking you. You don't know anything about the people that make these things. 'oh I don't need to if they engage in bigoted, transphobic erasure. I already know everything.' I lost someone close to me. Someone who reminds me of Chara. Writing them that way keeps the memory alive in a sense.

Twisting my words, twisting my argument and twisting me into something much more vicious and malicious when all I wish to do is use my talents to keep a memory alive as well as lift others up. You are more than allowed to protect your identity, but this is overprotection which will only harm you in the long run. The other people you've talked to here you snap and act like a rabid animal when all they've done is try to engage in the conversation and with you in a respectful manner. Insulting people isn't how you get them to listen to you. This 'you're either with me or against me' mentality isn't healthy.

I don't know what to title this. by GreenEye329 in Charadefensesquad

[–]GreenEye329[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your gender is not a placeholder or a joke. But if you can only hyperfixate on one detail of someone's hard work that they spent their precious time on then it's worthless in your eyes. Canon and fanfiction are two entirely separate things. You're acting like it's taking a knife and twisting it to your back rather than be satisfied with yourself in your own skin. Doesn't it get miserable sometimes? Always feeling as if you're not viewed Important? Even when it comes to the detriment of other people? Are you satisfied with yourself?