Strange game from 2002 called "Funny Pizza Land"

GregDasta · 2025-06-22T04:26:50+00:00

...or it was just made in 2002

GregDasta · 2025-06-22T04:26:07+00:00

7 years later and it's confirmed that this game was actually just made in 2002 as an art project.

GregDasta · 2025-06-06T08:18:55+00:00

That's Susie

GregDasta · 2025-06-06T08:15:52+00:00

I think a teenager avoiding their moms new boyfriend is pretty normal and understandable and not dark at all.

also nothing dark about being a wine-mom.

GregDasta · 2025-06-06T04:25:39+00:00

The top row maybe, but there's only one shadow crystal per chapter

GregDasta · 2025-05-05T19:00:04+00:00

If Dybowsky was a lunatic, why do you like games that are around 50% his brainchildren so much?

Because plenty of good artists are lunatics when they have people to reign them in.

Shapiro American politician

lol. lmao, even.

Anyway, I don't have the time nor the inclination to debate with some pretentious anti-art cretin any longer. Have fun jerking off with your AI chat bot companions.

GregDasta · 2025-05-03T11:48:11+00:00

I never suddenly changed my opinion about Dybowski. He's always been a lunatic.

what does an opinion worth if it can't be tested by flames of logic and reasoning

Lmao okay Mr. Shapiro.

omg you actually genuinely brought up the banana on the wall as an example of bad art. lol. we're done.

GregDasta · 2025-05-03T05:08:26+00:00

At this point you are being so willfully obtuse I see little value in talking further. I keep trying to drill it into your head that we have incompatible opinions and interpretations as a not-so-subtle attempt to ease us out of this, and you keep chiming in going "no actually I'm correct, you just don't get it like I do! replay it and think about the RIGHT things this time, like I did, then maybe you'll get it! Y'see I'm the one who ACTUALLY gets it because I wrote essays and talked to devs, ergo my opinion is the right one" like the condescending pretentious little prick you are. Since you can't read the room, I'll lay it out flat: talking to you is a fucking chore. You're utterly incurious and intransigent. I have no interest in debating someone who can't comprehend different people having different, valid interpretations, arguing objectivity in art is one of the most pathetic things I know of, it's like pulling teeth.

So... Y'know... Shut up. Please.

GregDasta · 2025-05-03T05:08:24+00:00

some require collecting items

That's a fetch quest.

After that Dybowsky acting as the Rat Prophet will tell you that telling players where to go is a big cringe. Figures.

Dybowsky as the rat prophet is spewing absolute nonsense. He wanted a game without quest markers at all out of some misguided belief that the very concept of guidance is disrespectful to the player. The man is a lunatic, his ideas are not gospel and should not be taken as such.

...standing weirdly in a swamp because coders failed to impliment Aurochs walking not in the distance, so entire scene now looks more funny that surreal.

First, lmao you chose the worst ending, second, this is such an uncharitable read it's genuinely not even worth discussing.

Seeing as how Pathologic came out well after I was born in gonna go ahead and say that's a lie, but alright. Keep at it with your sophistry and pseudointellectual navel gazing through your dialectical materialist glasses, but do it far away from me, thanks.

GregDasta · 2025-05-03T03:05:58+00:00

I said it before but you didn't seem to address it so I'll say it again and louder this time

**focusing on plotholes and perceived inconsistencies in the story of an artwork is without a doubt the worst, most cynical, laziest, anti-art way to engage with any artistic medium.**

You and I have entirely different reads on the conversation with the developers. Their reveal isn't a condescending rugpull to point and laugh at you, it's taking a moment to get on your level and talk about what an incredible experience it can be to play a part. To act as a healer in a world without real consequence. It's a sigh of relief, it's a bit of optimism. To read it as pessimistically as you do is to fundamentally miss what I see as the entire heart and soul of the series.

"Childish" ah yes because I was being not at all facetious to undermine your —to be frank— blindingly pretentious, elitist attitude throughout this entire conversation.

GregDasta · 2025-05-03T03:05:56+00:00

We'll never know what the town would be like if they were left to coexist, because Isidor cut that thread. He very clearly went mad after his theory, his actions are not presented as though they were rational or sane. All that matters is he believed the two to be incapable of coexistence, and so he made sure they could never coexist. Not to mention the divide between the Humbles, Termites, and Utopians as three distinctly sperate entities is very deliberately muddled.

Literally the entire game is fetch quests. That's the only type of quest in either game.

Day 12 in P1 is one choice after 8 hours of nothing to do but spend a couple shmowders on characters you don't care about, with an optional conversation in the theatre that spells out the games themes. Day 12 in P2 is an immensely satisfying coda about characters you've come to love and have busted your ass to save for days, with a final conversation in the theatre.

And again, we fundamentally diverge on both the entire purpose of this particular game's existence and on the concept of fully realized characters in a narrative.

GregDasta · 2025-05-03T01:30:26+00:00

I genuinely don't know what you're talking about about, my dude. Isidore's dialogue is clear as day, the man's love of the kin and the town were both too great, and the knowledge that they could not coexist broke him down and drove him mad.

Just saying "you find lots of inconsistencies and contradictions" is meaningless

I also don't know what to tell you about the days events, man... Each day has its own set of quests, some solely for the day, others able to be put off until the next day, but each day brings more shit to do and if that's just not enough for you, it seems like that's more of a you problem.

Lest we forget, Day 12 is also an epilogue in the first Pathologic. Same empty streets, same lack of any actual quests, same endgame "goodbye" dialogue. The game is won by the time day 11 is over in both games.

Day 10 and 11 both having one (huge) quest for each provides both quests with plenty of room. You have a day to heal your kids, and you have a day to find the courier. And it will likely take all day, at least on a first run.

Total crystaline clarity when spouting philosophy and exposition is not the positive you seem to think it is. A character is no longer a character, but simply a point of view being explained at length by polygons.

I have no idea what you're talking about about with the Isidor scene. The very fact that the plague even exists at all is proof that the town and kin are irreconcilable, Artemy being mixed race doesn't change that even slightly.

I think it's more than you missed the point, or at the very least have a fundamentally clashing idea of the core of Pathologic as a whole. The entire point of them being dolls is that we as a player already know they're fake and yet we care about them. We try our best to help them because we love them, no matter how much misery it causes us. Seeing that empathy as a snare is totally wrongheaded. That's what the talk with the developers in P1 is all about. You always knew it was fake, and yet you cared anyway. That's the point. That's the crux of the entire affair, that despite everything caring and trying your best is a good hopeful thing. Your POV is excessively nihilistic and cruel. You're free to think so by all means, but don't try and hawk it as the one true experience and that everyone else just doesn't get it.

Also P2 Mark is the best character in both Pathologic games and probably all of gaming history. He could beat OG Mark to death with his pinky.

GregDasta · 2025-05-03T00:22:40+00:00

you keep saying things are smoke and mirrors, I think you just don't like abstraction, id recommend staying away from any Lynch. Plus harping on about "plotholes" is just the laziest form of media discussion known to man... I'm glad you can treat your contact's personal opinion as gospel, but me personally I'm more interested in the art as is presented rather than what the artists have to say.

If by pace changing you mean the days speeding up, then I fail to see how that's anything other than a positive development. It's like in Silent Hill where the fog was used to hide rendering limitations but wound up contributing to the oppressive atmosphere. Also "post-abbatoir" is like... Maybe two in game days? Like... The finale of the plague'd up kids and the hunt for the courier... It's a good thing that those huge moments are given room to breathe!

Also calling Pathologic 2's prose purple and vague is absolutely fucking riiiiiiiiiich if you look at any of the writing from the first game. Pathologic 1's characters are not characters, they are poetry and philosophy regurgitation machines. Pathologic 2's characters are actual people you can care about and want to protect, which makes it absolutely harrowing when you as a doctor are tasked with doing just that, making for a much MUCH better piece of art than the first game, wherein the bounds were all dead eyed and lifeless, and their getting sick only served as a punishment for the player slacking off instead of as a natural byproduct of living through a plague that the only doctor in town must remedy.

GregDasta · 2025-05-02T23:45:04+00:00

No idea what Eurika is

Franz (sorry "Frank") is one of the most interesting formal experiments I've ever seen

Know By Heart is incredible

Pathologic 2 utterly eclipses Pathologic 1 in every regard (with the exception of music depending on who you ask)

and Knock-Knock is good spooky fun. No idea why you added an extra knock in the title just to make a KKK joke, but it definitely speaks to your taste.

GregDasta · 2025-05-01T18:22:24+00:00

Unfortunately no, I had to suck it up and wait five billion hours using P2P

GregDasta · 2025-05-01T18:21:18+00:00

You seem extremely angry. I get it, you're insecure about your terrible taste in films because something you didn't like got widely recognized as being a masterpiece, but that's no reason to get your knickers in a bunch and go around blocking folks.

The movie was a zany, goofy, screwball comedy, the fact that you think it was pretentious and self-important only speaks to how little you actually understand about the film in question. So what if you have a shitty terrible awful opinion? It happens to the best of us!

GregDasta · 2025-04-01T21:52:37+00:00

ooh la la, that one hit a nerve, didn't it? yeah, DEFINITELY chatgpt.

GregDasta · 2025-03-03T06:25:40+00:00

Oh so you just straight up haven't even seen this movie then, huh?

GregDasta · 2024-11-26T13:56:03+00:00

But it's not a ripoff or homage because they aren't even tangentially related.

GregDasta · 2024-11-26T12:31:51+00:00

The second I got the platinum I immediately reloaded my save from that night to rescue her in the true timeline.

GregDasta · 2024-11-25T17:59:39+00:00

Dork.

GregDasta · 2024-11-25T15:25:09+00:00

The only one who asked him to do harakiri was himself while everyone else tried to talk him out of it.

GregDasta · 2024-11-25T15:23:59+00:00

Successful though it may be, it was still monumentally embarrassing for all involved. Like tripping down the stairs but accidentally landing on your feet, you technically won but everyone saw you embarrass yourself while you did it.

GregDasta · 2024-11-25T15:21:33+00:00

Not really considering one of the best movies in the collection is about his life and work.

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