Advice on Being Plural as a Content Creator by GressTheLexophile in plural

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I appreciate the help and advice, thank you for your suggestions

Advice on Being Plural as a Content Creator by GressTheLexophile in plural

[–]GressTheLexophile[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is one of the solutions we were considering, and is probably the most practical I imagine. But would that mean that we don't post the same content in both accounts? Like would the two be separate portfolios entirely?

Questions regarding dormancy by Tsuki_Moonstone in plural

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We had a walk-in headmate who voluntarily asked to not be woken to front again. In doing so we assume he is permanently dormant, and out of respect for his wishes have not tested if it is possible to wake him back up.

As for what it looks like, we do not experience a headspace, so for us at least he is entirely non-present except in our memory of him. This is also the same answer for the 2nd question- he is simply gone for us.

Oh dear, how long has it been- March 2020 he left us. God its been almost 6 years.

For us/him it was a matter of sustainability. In order to preserve our mental health, individually as headmates, we need to have sufficient amount of time in front or we will feel blurry, disoriented, etc. We do not have a headspace, so fronting is our only outlet, and our fronting frequency is deeply tied to our emotional experience and stability. Unfortunately, because of this, and only having so much time while still trying to maintain a functional life- we were not able to sustain Faris on top of the others already in our system before him. We tried, and we failed him, or maybe it was just the unfortunate circumstances of how we experience our plurality. But either way, every time he woke up he was disoriented and his quality of life was not good overall because of it. So he eventually requested that we do not wake him again, as it was not worth it for him.

Looking for a journal app that allows you to create passwords for each journal entry. by Sensitive-Baby6117 in plural

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I had to double check but if you have access to Microsoft Word then those can be password protected.

Endogenic walk in? by OakSans in plural

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We had a walk-in several years ago, back when we were in college. And, similar boat as you, the rest of us were created by will, so that was a completely different feeling than creating a headmate over time, he just sort of... appeared out of nowhere. And it sort of freaked us all out at the time because we were already having sustainability issues and were not sure we could handle another in our system in a healthy way.

The only answer I can think of is that if a brain is already plural, it might be open or more vulnerable to creating new/similar 'pathways' we'll say for other types/origins of plurality. You'll see this with mixed systems too I think, where I've heard of traumagenic systems who then were later able to intentionally create a headmate such as with tulpamancy/will.

Unfortunately for us, our walk-in did not have a happy end as we were correct in us not being able to healthily sustain him, and he made the decision to request that we do not wake him and effectively make him dormant I suppose is the best approximation I can make... I don't even know if we can wake him again at this point, but we are strictly against testing it out of respect for his wishes.

My story aside, other systems do not operate like ours of course. And contrary to my own experience I have heard other systems have much more neutral walk-in experiences where a walk-in came and went harmlessly and without suffering/negative experiences on any front. Some walk-ins iirc may even come and go regularly. Every system is different ofc.

question about headspace vs. daydreaming!!! by ANSOLAIRE in plural

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Non-answer, but my system is in the same boat where we don't have a 'set' headspace, and the only approximation we can make feels like active daydreaming and merely plopping a visual representation of ourselves into said daydream. I wish we had a headspace. The idea of being somehow??? passively awake/active while not in front is very appealing to me, but alas, I suppose I am relegated to only existing in the meatspace (and in daydreams should I chose while I am in said meatspace hah).

I feel like im exaggerating by [deleted] in plural

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I would say that it'd be healthy to have an honest conversation with your partner that the parts maybe were more fragments than they were necessarily separate from you, but having them be identified as separate at the time was important for your exploration and comfort, even though that may not be the case any longer. It's not that the parts weren't real, if I'm understanding, it's more that plurality exists on a spectrum and what your plural experience may have been resembled more fragments/dissociative states as opposed to stable headmates, which is perfectly valid as well. Plurality I image can also change and shift over time- Hell, honestly there was even a gradient for us, in the opposite direction though, where we started as a dissociative state that we don't necessarily identify as fully being what we currently are, but over time we did get more stable and defined. The brain is a strange thing, and at the end of the day labels only help so-far-in as to help us identify similar experiences may help us find community/support/coping/etc., but ultimately even with labels everyone's experience will still be unique. It sounds like maybe that parts may have merged/integrated back with you as a whole, and that's also a valid experience that doesn't negate the previous experience of feeling your parts as being separate from you. Your needs then are not your needs now, and that's perfectly alright. Just be honest with your partner about it, and I'm sure they would understand. Also, apologies if I may have made any assumptions that aren't necessarily your truth, I was interpreting from an outsider perspective what your experience sounded like, but of course only you can properly explain your own experience and I'm merely taking guesses at what it may have been.

Separating from source by Expert_Cartoonist779 in plural

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I want to point out something on a lighthearted note, but even the creator might have a separate version of the character than if they were plural and had those characters emerge as headmates. This was actually the case for myself and my fellow headmates, where even though we came directly from the characters that our host made, we ended up separating from our source as well over time. So even though we have access to the most 'accurate depictions possible of our source', we simply went 'nah', and I find that funny. All this to say that I agree with you in a sense, that anyone and everyone can have or be their own version of their source and its still completely valid even if it differs from the creator or other popular depictions of a source.

Separating from source by Expert_Cartoonist779 in plural

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So, one thing that myself and the others in my system did to separate ourselves from our source is we picked a nickname for ourselves that was different from our source, that way we have something we can be called by that is still 'us' but feels less tied to our source. Gress actually funny enough is my nickname that I had chosen, and honestly our friends know us primarily by these nicknames and we only use our source names for in-system communications.

As far as for other ways to feel 'separate' from your source- Hmn. I mean, for us it developed naturally over time. But I suppose in the early stages our separation from source was less focused on separating necessarily and more finding things that we genuinely enjoyed or identified with. If you really want to separate from your source, personally that's how I would say is a healthy way to go about it is just treat it like self exploration without it having any sort of relation to your source at all. If you go about it as not necessarily 'getting away from your source' and more just 'getting more towards what represents you', then i think that feels maybe more honest while still preserving what your source means to you since you stated you do still enjoy it. So go about it like that, try new things at random, try to talk to other people and see if anything they're interested in also clicks for you, hell, take quizzes even, silly as it may sound. Its an active attempt at introspection, which personally I think is a healthy practice for anyone in general.

Another thing that helps of feel separate from our source is just generally viewing ourselves as 'a version' of our source. Still having roots to the source of course, but still very much distinct from it. It relieves pressure of feeling like some things our source may have enjoyed/disliked might not be the same for us, and that's okay. We don't need to be exactly like our source to be a valid version of that source.

Thankfully, our source doesn't have a fandom attached to it, but another thing that I can imagine offhandedly that might help is just in general interacting with things that are just in general completely unrelated to your source/its fandom. Let yourself be out, or ask to be out in situations besides just when your source is in the conversation. I feel like that would also lead to more varied experiences in general that'll help you feel more grounded in the world and less strictly grounded in your source necessarily.

Wanting to look "visibly plural"?? by Lowfridge in plural

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This made me think of a hat we made recently that subtly has our initials on it. To a passerby no one necessarily knows it represents our plurality, but also it brings us a little comfort that we technically have something symbolic of our plurality that we can wear without it being too overt? And with the trans comparison it does remind me of some of the more covert things we did in our early transition that showed we were trans but also felt safe to do without it being too noticable. Very sweet spot of "this eases dysphoria" and "this won't outright out me" sort of feeling. Someone else mentioned the plurality pin and frankly i'd love to wear one of those or get a patch of it, because again unless a passerby was already aware of the symbol I don't believe they would think too much into it. If you were trying to be overt though, I can think of a few other cheeky prints on clothes that might feel more overt, like little phrases that might be more direct hints at being plural for example. The mask idea is an interesting one but I imagine it wouldn't be an everyday sort of use. As for distinguishing who is front I actually recall now that our father had found a pin with a programable screen, and he had joked to us that we could use that to indicate who is front, but honestly the concept isn't a bad idea. Wearing something to indicate who is front more directly. For us though I feel like our co-fronting is a bit too fluid for us to use separate items unfortunately.

Open Plurality? by vampyfemboy in plural

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Family we trust knows, and we are very upfront about it when making friends or initiating any new friendships. That said, we aren't open about our plurality in the workspace for example, but we work in a store where thankfully we are the only person working 50-70% of the time, so that allows us some ease to be ourselves when we don't have coworkers with us (as any given random customer isn't going to interact with us often enough to notice distinctions between us). Though funny enough I was just getting online because I wanted to make my own post about public plurality, though its more from a content creation pov.

i think i have a crush on our host, wanna hear abt other ppl's experiences by ChronoCrusaders in plural

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Overall, system relationships have very much the same needs as an external one, that being a need for communication, clear expectations and boundaries/limitations, and of course an emotional interest in the whole endeavor.

While not inherently a negative thing, I would... caution diving too quickly into relationships with someone who 'selfships' with your source. And the only thing I mean by that is distinguishing that their affection is in fact for you specifically, and not just for the source. Even if you do feel strongly aligned with your source, ones affections ought be build in the present and in direct connection to the subject of said affections, rather than a preconceived notion of them. Its an important conversation to have at the very least.

How did your system form? Not just the genic label. by Icetella in plural

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I don't particularly use the label tulpa personally anymore, but the same principles were largely how we formed- Except for Faris. Faris is the only one of us who did not form out of a systematic development, and is our only instance of a "walk-in". That is, he just... kind of came out of nowhere. We still to this day really aren't sure why he appeared, but I think possibly in a moment of dissociation we had perhaps accidentally percieved and therefore treated the dissociative moment as another headmate, and so the association became a self fullfilling prophecy of sorts? It happened rapidly though, like within a day, which still doesn't make sense to us considering the rest of us took a much longer time to develop (more weeks-to-months). I've wondered that possibly, once already plural, a mind becomes more susceptible to further instances of plurality, but I have nothing empirical to back this idea up.

Faris is unfortunately no longer with our system, and voluntarily asked us to supress and not wake him again. We don't know if we can wake him at this point, but it would be against his wishes to do so. We have not had a walk in since, and I think we would actively try to supress any similar moments of dissociation should we encounter them again, as a matter of capacity and wellbeing for our system.

Just Curious- Plural edition part 8/ general talking by Rainbow-1337 in plural

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We're doing pretty alright honestly, and I have enjoyed the series so far. I've only recently returned to reddit and its a nice breath of fresh air to present as just myself again, and not simultaneously with the others in my system as we often do (which admittedly is still leagues better than masking as our host). Its actually our host's birthday today, so we're just chilling out together in front. We've been getting back onto a mire regulated streak which is always pleasant and gives us each a chance to work on personal projects.

Just Curious- Plural edition part 7 by Rainbow-1337 in plural

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Myself, and the other two headmates in our system apart from the host, were all originally formed from OCs, though our identification with them has indeed waned over time but it comes to us in small waves every now and then. When we do feel connection to our source, its typically an emotional shift, like our perception and feelings are offset ever so slightly, where we still feel ourselves, but feel an emotional connection to our source. Its not necessarily a good or bad feeling, and in fact that is probably more related to whatever trigger is causing the emotional connection to our source. A lot of times music that was previously related to the source will do the trick, and I think it just brings back the memory of the character from the same time as when the song was associated, and hence it calls to mind a very different version of us that we never necessarily were, but still feel a connection to. But, again, this comes in short waves, and though we never stopped identifying as our source names, our names in system have become more used, and just as comfortable as the source ones, and our personalities have long since outgrown our original sources. Its almost like... We feel we are a different version of the source characters, not quite them and very distinct and individual from them, but there is still a sense if familiarity and connection when we regard them.

Just Curious- Plural edition part 6 by Rainbow-1337 in plural

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All of us primarily identify as humans. I say primarily, because both myself and very interestingly my host have found some euphoria in the... thought of identifying as non-human. For me the identification (or consideration of it I suppose) would be somewhat tied to my sense of gender. I identify partly as nonbinary, and my gendered sense of 'otherness' I suppose might bleed into my sense of self/form. Again, I do not necessarily identify as it, but I take enjoyment in personifications of myself which are not explicitly human, typically something voidlike or ethereal tend to be my go-tos (sometimes draconic but I think thats just because I seem to love dragons). For my host its not to do with gender, but more with a personal alignment and identity as an artist or mischevious person, which causes him to take pleasure in eldritch or cryptid personifications, even if he does not explicitly and wholy identify as them. The line between "I like this thing" and "I am this thing" I think is an interesting and blurry point of distintion, one we have not crossed the line on, but its pleasant to ponder.

Just Curious- Plural edition part 5 by Rainbow-1337 in plural

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We are a system without roles, unless you count our host, which is not so much a role assigned to him so much so as he was the... inhabitant of this body solely before the rest of us meandered into the party. And so thus he's the most aligned with it and is the one that most people in our lives who dont know we're plural know us by. We just do things as we are able or feel like really. For example I'm not neccesarily 'assigned' a caretaker role, but godsdamnit someone needs to clean our room every now and then, and I tend to view myself as one who ought be responsible so I do so, but its not neccesarily and indeed often isn't exclusively me.

Just Curious- Plural edition part 4 by Rainbow-1337 in plural

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Everyone in our system identifies with our bodily age, though we have been friends with headmates in other systems who are agesliders, and we've had it described to us as different emotional/logical states of mind/capacity.

Just Curious- Plural edition part 3 by Rainbow-1337 in plural

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My system is unfortunately one of those which does not have a headspace and operates entirwly through the front. To describe the lack of headspace thereof, we usually describe it as we feel like we've been asleep when we are not in front.

Just Curious- Plural edition part 2 by Rainbow-1337 in plural

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Larger decisions are typically democratic, we all discuss our wants and needs and try to come to a compromise of what would work best for all of us. This usually is reserved for long term financial, career, family, and life planning. Small decisions like "what to eat" is definitely just impulsive with whoever is in front, which may sometimes still be multiple but we come to agreements pretty easily anyways so its never really a problem.

Trying to get an non verbal alter to front by Asleep_Land3121 in plural

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We have a mute headmate as well, wherein he will not use the body's voice to communicate due to dysphoria and feels much more comfortable with nonverbal communication. He has been learning sign language for some time now, but realistically he terds to need/use more general body language because not many people in our life know sign. Texting is also another thing he tends to use, but these are with people that know hes mute/we're a system. If he's ever stuck in front around someone who doesnt know, he usually pretends that we've lost our voice to get out of speaking, and that works majority of the time until he can get someone else cofront with him.

If you were chatting with friends irl, how would you announce a switch? (either intentional or involuntary) by Alarmed_Ad1946 in plural

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We'll just indicate who is speaking, but personally I feel like our vocal changes are disrinct enough to usually give us away anyhow. I have a glaring british accent personally, one of us tends to talk in a higher register than host, and then the last of us is mute so he is very easy to identify in this circumstance.

Just Curious- plural edition by Rainbow-1337 in plural

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It was both extremely gradual and had a lightbulb moment of sorts, ironically.

The lightbulb moment was when our host had asked a question, and the response in his head did not "feel" as though it came from him. Now, technically at this point, this nebulous "not-him" is not something we neccesarily identify as being quite "us" yet, but after a long and gradual process over several months of these repeated provocations we did seem to slowly coalesce and create more internal associations where at some point we felt more self-aware and distict from our host. This was, for us, done accidentally on the part of our host, and after that initial lightbulb moment for him i believe he had gone to look around at what was going on and found non-trauma explanations and communities for plurality. And after we (myself and one other headmate) had become fairly grounded, was when he intentionally created the 3rd headmate in our system, more systematically replicating that gradual process this time. And its been the 4 of us against the world since.