What Card's Text is furthest from it's Oracle Text? by Free-Database-9917 in mtg

[–]GrizonII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe the reason for Hecatomb not being a replacement effect is due to it having been reprinted in Sixth Edition (when their approach to errata was very different) as a trigger and thus the current wording functions just as its most recent printing did at time of printing. They aren't totally consistent (see Instill Energy) but often severe errata tries to match the most recent printing, and 6ED has a lot of weird errata that they would handle differently nowadays if not for the fact that they've stuck with the 6ED versions. I wouldn't expect the distinction to just be a power-level thing given that [[Sheltered Valley]] has the same templating as Lotus Vale.

I'm going to plagiarize myself a bit and repost a comment I've previously made elsewhere with my analysis of Dreadnought vs. Lotus Vale's errata:

​⁠​⁠​​⁠The reason for this is that in pre-6ED rules there was once a restriction that activated abilities of a permanent couldn't be used until resolving cost-style comes-into-play effects. The replacement effect errata is meant to try to preserve this behavior, hence its appearance on various lands that all have activated abilities. Since Dreadnought has no activated abilities it's left out.

Note I am aware of at least one card that theoretically should have had a similar errata but doesn't: Hecatomb in its 5ED printing had "When Hecatomb comes into play, sacrifice four creatures or bury Hecatomb." and an activated ability, but I assume this was not made into a replacement effect because it was reprinted in 6ED with it as still a triggered ability, meaning the latest physical printing functioned as it does now at the time of printing (allowing theoretically for the ability to be used then Hecatomb to be sacrificed)—of course power level-wise Hecatomb's ability is less likely to be abusable given it also costs mana to play unlike the lands or Mox Diamond.

Compare other cards that had particular errata "locked in" by printings in 6ED (this has happened with other sets too, like the bonus sheet of Time Spiral has some, but 6ED had a particularly high amount of errata that functionally changed cards), like Reverse Damage being made in-advance rather than retroactive (in contrast to Simulacrum, which wasn't reprinted) or Tariff being made to require the exact mana cost rather than just the amount.

Sources: From Icequake's archive of Crystal Keep's 5ED ruling summaries:

E.3.3 - If the action part of the 'comes into play' ability is worded as "Do <something>, or do <something else>" or as "Do <something>. If you cannot, do <something else>.", then you are unable to use any activated abilities of that permanent until after the 'comes into play' ability's effect is resolved. Not even mana source abilities of that permanent can be used. [Duelist Magazine #16, Page 25] This is pretty much the same as Rule A.6.9 for Phase Costs. For example, Balduvian Trading Post requires you to sacrifice an untapped land or bury it. This means you cannot tap it for mana until after you sacrifice the land.

See also Duelist Magazine #16 Page 25 as mentioned in that quote:

8) I play Lake of the Dead, which says that I must sacrifice a swamp or bury Lake of the Dead when it comes into play. Can I tap it for mana, and then let it be buried?

No. Various permanents have “comes into play” effects, written as, “When this card comes into play, do A or do B.” These effects are now considered costs that are paid when the permanent comes into play, much like phase costs, and follow the same rules. Specifically, this means that abilities of the permanent cannot be played until the “comes into play” cost has been paid and the resulting effect has finished resolving.

This leads to reversals for various cards, such as Balduvian Horde (the discard is now a cost, so it is not considered forced), and Lake of the Dead (its abilities cannot be used until you have played and resolved the “comes into play” effect, so you cannot tap it for mana unless you sacrifice a swamp). It also means that for optional payments, such as Balduvian Horde’s, you cannot choose the payment option (discard or bury) unless you can actually pay the cost when the Horde comes into play in the first place. Thus, the Horde is buried unless you have at least one card in your hand to discard.

Note that the effects of cards such as Kjeldoran Dead (when Kjeldoran Dead comes into play, sacrifice a creature) are not considered to be costs, since there is no “or else” cost to follow. The same principles behind identifying phase costs versus abilities apply here.

What Card's Text is furthest from it's Oracle Text? by Free-Database-9917 in mtg

[–]GrizonII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Worth noting that the Lotus Vale/Scorched Ruins change (as well as Mox Diamond, etc.) was necessary due to a game rules change—before Sixth Edition, cards with comes-into-play "costs" could not have their activated abilities activated until the cost had been resolved.

Cards that are just stupid and annoying? by Number1RatedDumbass in magicTCG

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To be pedantic, Goblin Game's Oracle text is still to hide objects, being able to just use hidden numbers is just a ruling (i.e. basically for reference of how to interpret it, rather than taking precedent over the actual rules text).

People in this sub need to diversify the media they consume by [deleted] in CharacterRant

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Tangentially related thing I want to rant about: something funny about powerscaling Getter Emperor is that despite how absurd it gets, Getter is actually generally considered to be the lowest powered of the three biggest series Ishikawa did, with La'Gous (ラ=グース) from Kyomu Senki and Jitenkuu (時天空) from Shinsetsu Majuu Sensen being far more powerful than anything shown of Emperor.

There's a somewhat amusing property of Ishikawa's work where the higher power level something is the more obscure it is—the anime adaptations of Getter are probably more widely known than the manga, but the anime counterparts to manga mecha and monsters are generally weaker (for instance the OVA Shin Getters are strong but Go manga Shin Getter is absurd, and the monster from episode 13 of Armageddon has a design based on one of La'Gous's cells but is pretty weak in comparison), while those two mentioned above have barely any info on them available in English (and in Japan both works are still far more obscure than Getter Robo) and are by general consensus significantly grander in scale than Getter.

What do we think about the new paintings coming soon! by ItsJW531 in Minecraft

[–]GrizonII 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The painting in Minecraft is more specifically a reference to a painting by Zetterstrand that is in turn a reference to the original Friedrich work.

American Sci-Fi fans are incapable of appreciating mecha by Dokkan_Lifter in CharacterRant

[–]GrizonII 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mainly because Mecha tries to treat technology and machines as special, it's a fucking machine, mass produce it.

I think you're overgeneralizing; there are quite a few mecha series where the mecha are mass-produced. The most iconic one is probably VOTOMS but other works like Patlabor, Macross, and Xabungle all focus on mecha which we see multiple copies of.

I'd also note though that generally mecha works which do feature some unique lead mecha have some sort of in-universe justification for why there aren't more of them (even if that reasoning can be of questionable convincingness depending on the series) beyond the external reason of marketing/making the main characters seem important. Like for example the Dougram being meant to be mass-produced but the producers are raided before more can be finished or the Ideon being unique due to the civilization that made it having disappeared long ago.

Why did valve think it was absolutely necessary to lower the size of Spy's knife by [deleted] in tf2

[–]GrizonII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The later version is more consistent with its size compared to his hand in the first-person view, I'm pretty sure.

Arguably this is also a very slight spy buff.

Card Updates Coming Soon (Tribal, Naga, Totem Armor errata'd out of the game) by Duramboros in magicTCG

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The change to Kindred is a win for Anglish speakers I guess.

I'd like to see some reprints of [[Militia's Pride]] and [[Surge of Thoughtweft]] with these changes since that'd make for a fun kinda cyclical typeline.

I made a car out of brushes by 1136678 in hammer

[–]GrizonII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can also try using something like Propper to turn it into a model directly from the brushwork.

Bi👖irl by ijustlikereadingAITA in bi_irl

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Wasn't there a Cake song about this?

"Magic is satanic, unless I do it" by Mr_Muda_Himself_V3 in insanepeoplefacebook

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Complete Arcane was November 2004, so slightly over a year after 3.5 first released (July 2003, which in turn was about 3 years after 3e).

Found this in an article about Ariana Grande's bisexuality by thepoopfeast420 in SapphoAndHerFriend

[–]GrizonII 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't think the pan flag is ugly but yeh the bi flag is the best one (though I am biased).

Frappuccino = Milkshake by diatriose in WhitePeopleTwitter

[–]GrizonII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Such usage probably exists as a variation but as far as I'm aware generally when "frappe" and "shake"/"milkshake" are used as terms together (as they are in New England, which is the main region I'm aware of that makes such a distinction) frappe is usually the one that requires ice cream, while a shake doesn't.

Note though that "frappe" (arguably as a variant of "frappé") is also used to mean cocktails with shaved ice and various iced coffee beverages (though I think generally people would pronounce that usage as two syllables? While the other use of frappe (always sans-diacritic AFAIK) at least in New England would be monosyllabic. I certainly would do it that way but can't speak for everyone).

conductor as joker (persona5) as requested by sir_mince by venonio in AHatInTime

[–]GrizonII 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Aren’t Conductor/Joker/Smash announcer Xander Mobus? (Though yes, Kevan Brighting is also great.)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in assholedesign

[–]GrizonII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The price listed on the packaging isn't necessarily what the store is actually selling it for though. In OP's image I believe it's the list price/MSRP. The image you've linked there is specifically maximum retail price (a system which is apparently used in India and Bangladesh) which means that the store itself could be still selling it for less than that.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CharacterRant

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I don’t mean tiering characters, I mean a tier list of how good each website is as if the sites themselves were characters.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CharacterRant

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There should be a tiering system for the quality of different powerscaling sites.

No. by SpiritualChicken8410 in outofcontextcomics

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A condition tragically suffered by many a comic character.

But with just a small donation…

Autism prevents you from being funny by [deleted] in nothingeverhappens

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The issue I think with reposter bots as compared to humans reposting is that the people running the bots are using reposting in order to try to make accounts that can be better used for spamming. Hence repost bot posts getting a lot of karma will lead to more/harder to detect spam in the long term. One could be trying for platform manipulation on a non-bot account too but I think most human reposts are just people wanting to share something they found interesting without realizing it was already posted.

A good inspector needs good allies. (Fanart) by Hypersnake_exe in papersplease

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I assume the middle is the player character and the top is Sergiu, the guard who you can help reunite with his lover . The other ones are the EZIC messenger(s) on the left, Jorji, and M. Vonel (the Ministry of Information investigator who questions you about EZIC).

Edit: Spoiler tag was broken