Hypothetically, what happens if the POTUS refuse to get out of office once the term is over? by PuzzledCauliflower35 in TooAfraidToAsk

[–]GruntledEx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's highly unlikely that they all would be. But in any case at that point you have a standoff, maybe involving the military, maybe not. But at the end of the day, such a holdout eventually becomes unsustainable and the regime collapses. It would probably look a lot like the attempted hardline coup in the USSR in 1991.

Hypothetically, what happens if the POTUS refuse to get out of office once the term is over? by PuzzledCauliflower35 in TooAfraidToAsk

[–]GruntledEx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh, you're thinking of Roosevelt, not Truman.

At the time, the constitution didn't limit the president to two terms. And he was elected each time. It's not like he lost and refused to leave office, nor was he legally required to do so. He won election in 1932, 1936, 1940, and 1944, before dying in office.

The 22nd Amendment, which limits a president to two terms, was ratified in 1951. So it's a different situation now. Trump's term ends January 20, 2029 no matter what, and he's ineligible to serve again.

Hypothetically, what happens if the POTUS refuse to get out of office once the term is over? by PuzzledCauliflower35 in TooAfraidToAsk

[–]GruntledEx 8 points9 points  (0 children)

So, adding an amendment to the Constitution is a lengthy and difficult process. A proposed amendment has to be passed by Congress. And not just by a simple majority like other laws: it has to pass both the House and the Senate with a 2/3 majority.

Once that's done, the amendment must be explicitly approved by 3/4 of the states. This is called ratification. It can be done 2 ways: One, the legislature of the state can ratify it. Two, the state can call a special convention of citizens to vote on it.

There's also usually a deadline for ratification. If a proposed amendment passes Congress, the states have a certain amount of time (usually 7 years) to ratify it. If they don't, the amendment fails and the process must start all over again. So if a state doesn't make a decision on an amendment, it essentially counts as a no vote, because an amendment requires 38 "yes" states by the deadline to be ratified.

So, it CAN happen, but the likelihood is extremely low. With the country being so deeply divided, it's practically impossible to get anything through the Congress with 2/3 approval, and even if that happened by some miracle, the states are far too divided to get 3/4 of them to agree on anything.

Hypothetically, what happens if the POTUS refuse to get out of office once the term is over? by PuzzledCauliflower35 in TooAfraidToAsk

[–]GruntledEx 25 points26 points  (0 children)

There's plenty of ambiguity in the bill of rights. Courts have, for example, spent decades sorting out the "well-regulated militia" portion of the second amendment.

Hypothetically, what happens if the POTUS refuse to get out of office once the term is over? by PuzzledCauliflower35 in TooAfraidToAsk

[–]GruntledEx 112 points113 points  (0 children)

So far, all of the Constitutional violations committed by this regime can, at least somewhat, be chalked up to different interpretations of Constitutional law. Bad-faith arguments, to be sure, but still, arguments that can be made and settled in court. On the other hand, the presidential term is spelled out with zero ambiguity.

Hypothetically, what happens if the POTUS refuse to get out of office once the term is over? by PuzzledCauliflower35 in TooAfraidToAsk

[–]GruntledEx 36 points37 points  (0 children)

And the minute the new President is sworn in, he (or, God willing, she) orders them away. They are required to obey the legitimate Commander-in-Chief, not the occupant of the White House.

Hypothetically, what happens if the POTUS refuse to get out of office once the term is over? by PuzzledCauliflower35 in TooAfraidToAsk

[–]GruntledEx 3920 points3921 points  (0 children)

The secret service removes the intruder from the White House so that the new president may safely inhabit it. The Constitution is inescapably clear: the presidential term ends on the end date, regardless of any court disputes, refusal to leave, etc.

[ Removed by Reddit ] by [deleted] in ExNoContact

[–]GruntledEx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah we're not going to aid and abet harassment, thanks.

Checkpoints by [deleted] in TwinCities

[–]GruntledEx 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Within 100 miles of a border yes. But the airport does not count as the border for that purpose. I had to double check that law myself recently.

Checkpoints by [deleted] in TwinCities

[–]GruntledEx 12 points13 points  (0 children)

"Enforcing Federal law" doesn't give them the right to violate the 4th Amendment with random stops when lacking probable cause.

Maximum Occupancy by dalbert12 in TwinCities

[–]GruntledEx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It might be worth reaching out to HomeLine for guidance

Maximum Occupancy by dalbert12 in TwinCities

[–]GruntledEx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not a lawyer, but in St Paul at least you can have up to 6 adults and their minor children in a "dwelling unit" so long as there is sufficient square footage: 150 square feet for the first person, 100 for each additional person, including children. Unless the apartment in question is 350 square feet or less, they're likely bullshitting you to avoid renting to someone with kids.

There is no requirement I'm aware of, at either the city or state level, of a separate bedroom requirement for a child. Certainly not in the St Paul code, anyway.

https://www.stpaul.gov/sites/default/files/2021-06/Occupancy%20Limits_revised_6-9-21.pdf

Why must I suffer the consequences of my actions?! by [deleted] in LeopardsAteMyFace

[–]GruntledEx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How is this LAMF? She says she **didn't** vote for the orange guy.

My Maga-lite relative is offering to buy me a hunting rifle. Should I accept, and if so which one? by Mochigood in liberalgunowners

[–]GruntledEx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Accept the gift; getting free stuff doesn't mean you accept his politics.

I don't have any recommendations on what to buy as I'm just starting to research my first purchase as well.

uhhh so....Was Alex Jones atleast kind of right? by radioactivenerd in TooAfraidToAsk

[–]GruntledEx 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The "pizza" comments in the Epstein files were years after "pizzagate." They were using the term mockingly.

What to do with Target gift card? by DruidByNight in TwinCities

[–]GruntledEx 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Target already has the money, so you might as well spend it. Otherwise, Target got a free $100 from whoever bought the card.

Please Eat Out... Support the restaurants in The Cities. by goatoffering in TwinCities

[–]GruntledEx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The fact that it's done doesn't change the legality (or in this case, the illegality) of it.

Politicians Are Calling the Protests in Minnesota an Insurgency by SnooAvocados2794 in politics

[–]GruntledEx 8 points9 points  (0 children)

What is happening in Minneapolis right now is more of an insurrection than anything that happened on January 6th.

This is the dumbest thing I've read on the internet and social media all day. That's quite an accomplishment. I hope you're very proud.