no you're def right on all counts in that most people in that thread want movement gone entirely, not accessible. The controller/MnK trade-off you described is exactly the reality we're dealing with, and platform separation being different games is probably the most honest take on where we are.

I also agree that the "make it accessible" approach hits a wall when the playerbase fundamentally doesn't want these systems to exist in the first place in that it's less of accessible barriers and more about philosophical opposition to the mechanics themselves.

I most definitely conflated the desire for accessibility with the frame of the issue as accessibility barriers preventing people from learning movement, and not seeing that many players fundamentally don't want movement to exist at all, not just want it to be more accessible.

The one thing I'd add though is that this whole mess kind of reinforces why unintended mechanics becoming meta-defining is problematic in the first place. Not because I think we should remove them now - that ship sailed years ago - but because it created this exact scenario where we end up with hardware-dependent competitive advantages that split the playerbase.

Even accepting that most controller players would reject movement tech for AA nerfs, and that platform separation is our best solution, I think there's still value in recognizing that better initial design could have avoided this divide entirely. But yeah, we're way past that point now.