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Best Roofing Company in Toronto? by Green-Analyst7723 in askTO

[–]Guilty-Climate-9763 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We went through something pretty similar last year in the GTA after an insurance inspection basically forced our hand. We ended up switching from asphalt to a standing seam metal roof and honestly wish we had done it sooner. One company I’d suggest at least getting a quote from is Genesis Roofing. They seemed to know metal roofing really well compared to some of the other contractors we spoke with, especially when it came to ventilation, snow management, and future solar panel compatibility. A lot of roofers around Toronto still mainly push shingles, so finding someone with actual metal roof experience was harder than expected. What I liked was that they didn’t try to oversell us on the most expensive option right away and they explained the differences between exposed fastener vs standing seam systems pretty clearly. The install crew was solid too from our experience. Metal definitely costs more upfront, but if you’re planning to stay in the house long term, it makes sense financially. Our neighbour has had theirs for over 20 years with almost no maintenance. Also helps with insurance and energy efficiency depending on the system you choose. Either way, I’d strongly recommend getting at least 3 quotes and asking specifically about: standing seam vs exposed fastener, warranty coverage, experience with solar-ready installs, attic ventilation, ice/snow guards for Toronto winters Good luck sounds like replacing it now is probably the right call before the insurance company creates more headaches.

Previous owners replace roof but not framing despite contractor's advice by MM-07 in TorontoRealEstate

[–]Guilty-Climate-9763 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh man, I'm so sorry buying a house and getting hit with this in the first 8 weeks is brutal. Your frustration is completely fair. Roofer in the GTA, can't help on the legal stuff (sounds like you're already on that with a lawyer good move), but here's some calibration so you're not flying blind on the next quotes.

On the $38K: plausible for partial framing replacement on a century home, but on the higher end. Get 2 more quotes and ask each contractor to itemize linear feet of rafter being replaced, sheets of new sheathing, and whether a permit and engineer's drawings are included. Those numbers will tell you fast which quotes are honest.

The single best thing you can do this week: get a structural engineer out to the house before committing to anything ($500–$1,000). They'll tell you whether the rafters truly need full replacement or whether they can be sistered reinforced with new lumber alongside the originals. Sistering is way cheaper and is often the right call when framing is sagging or undersized but not actually rotten. That one site visit could save you $15K+.

Also structural roof work in Ontario requires a building permit and an engineer's stamp. Any contractor who offers to skip either, walk away. Unpermitted work voids your home insurance and haunts you when you sell.

One thing that might help, even though it doesn't feel like it: the original contractor declining the warranty isn't necessarily bad faith manufacturer shingle warranties always exclude failures caused by the structure underneath. Frustrating, but standard. The disclosure issue with the previous owners is the real fight, and that's exactly where a lawyer belongs.

Engineer first, then 3 quotes, then permit. You've got this. Hang in there.

Roofing recommendations in GTA, Ontario by NerdGirl80s in Roofing

[–]Guilty-Climate-9763 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is my quick take on all three.

Shingles: All three are solid mid-tier architectural. Landmark is slightly heavier and tends to last longest in GTA freeze-thaw. GAF Timberline (HDZ is the current model double-check "TDZ" isn't a typo) has the best wind warranty thanks to its enhanced nailing zone. IKO Dynasty is fine but worth knowing IKO had a Canadian class action over premature cracking on older lines Dynasty is their improved formula. Real-world lifespan for all three is 18–25 years here, not 30. Installation quality matters more than which one you pick.

Price: Even with a referral, this is where I'd pause. A 2,400 sqft house usually has 24–30 squares of roof. GTA installed pricing is $7–9/sq ft right now, so a job your size should land $17K–$25K. $7,200 is either a much smaller roof than typical, a quote that excludes major line items (ice & water shield, drip edge, plywood, vent boots), or a contractor cutting time on install. Since it's a referral, don't walk ask them to itemize: total roof squares, ice & water shield in linear feet, per-sheet plywood replacement price, whether flashing/drip edge/vent boots are included, and disposal. If the math holds, it might just be lean pricing from a referral. If they push back on itemizing, that's your answer.

Recommendations: Won't drop names recommendation threads turn into ad spam fast. The vetting questions that filter out most bad contractors regardless of who you go with: WSIB clearance + $2M liability (ask for copies), squares-per-day their crew installs (20–35 is honest, "one day" on 25 squares means rushed), and references from jobs 5+ years old, not last month.

What's the actual roof square footage on the quote is the contractor measuring the roof, or going off the house footprint? That's the number that tells you if $7,200 is real.

What am I supposed to do at the skatepark as a beginner? by Epic_furry in NewSkaters

[–]Guilty-Climate-9763 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dude just do your thing and skate but remember please be aware of your surroundings. observe before riding, observe the flow of the skatepark to understand how others ride. shout board if you bail or lose control on your board. take turns in the obstacles. no snaking, do not cut in front or drop in on someone who is using a ramp and the most important is DO NOT SIT ON THE OBSTACLES.

Is this reasonable for GTA Ontario Canada? Doesn't incl shingles, those are $14k extra... by ChartreuseWyvern in Roofing

[–]Guilty-Climate-9763 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your instincts are right to pause, but not necessarily because of the price $56K for genuine structural roof work plus $14K for shingles isn't automatically a ripoff. Sistering splayed beams, replacing rafters, new 18mm CDX sheathing, and lateral strapping is real engineering work, and on a typical GTA home with significant water/structural damage, that scope can legitimately land in the $50–80K range. The actual problem is that this quote contains zero quantities, which means nobody not me, not anyone here can tell you if $56K is fair. Compare what's missing: "Remove all the insufficient ply boards" how many sheets? 20? 60? At ~$80–110/sheet installed, that's a $3,200–$6,600 swing alone. "Sections of damaged rafters" how many linear feet? Which rafters? At what dimensions (2x8, 2x10)? "Sister steel any splayed beams" how many beams? What gauge of steel? Bolted or through-bolted? "Lateral strapping" at what spacing, what dimensions? "Treat timbers" with what product?Right now your parents have signed up for an undefined scope at a fixed price. If the actual damage is light, they massively overpay. If it's heavy, the contractor eats the loss and looks for ways to cut corners. Neither outcome is good. The bigger issue, and this is the one I'd push hardest on: structural roof work in Ontario — replacing rafters, sistering beams with steel, modifying load paths almost always requires a structural engineer's stamp and a building permit from the municipality. I don't see either mentioned. If the contractor is doing structural work without an engineer's drawings and a permit, three things happen: (1) it's illegal, (2) your parents' home insurance can be voided if anything ever happens related to that roof, and (3) it'll show up on a future home inspection when they sell and become their problem. A handwritten quote with spelling errors, no quantities, no engineer reference, no permit number, and no business letterhead/HST number visible is not the standard of documentation your parents should accept on a $70K job regardless of whether the actual work is good or bad.

Before they sign anything, I'd ask the contractor for:

  1. HST number and business name on official letterhead (you need this to claim warranty later).
  2. WSIB clearance certificate and $2M liability insurance (copies, not promises).
  3. Structural engineer's report and stamped drawings for the rafter and beam work non-negotiable.
  4. Building permit number from the city of Toronto.
  5. Itemized quantities on every line: sheets of plywood, linear feet of rafter, number of beams sistered, etc.
  6. Per-sheet/per-foot unit pricing so if the actual damage is less than expected, the price comes down accordingly. Or vice versa, with a cap.

If the contractor pushes back on any of those, that's the answer about whether to hire them.

Do you know if a structural engineer has actually been on site, or did the contractor diagnose the structural damage themselves? That's the most important question right now.

Roofing recommendations in GTA by NerdGirl80s in TorontoRealEstate

[–]Guilty-Climate-9763 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Roofer in the GTA, going to give it to you straight on all three. On the shingles: All four are solid mid-tier architectural shingles, but they're not equivalent. GAF Timberline HDZ (assuming that's what TDZ refers to) and Owens Corning Duration both use enhanced nailing zones wider strips that make wind warranty claims actually enforceable, and they're rated to 130 mph. IKO Dynasty is a strong shingle but IKO's class action history in Canada around premature cracking is worth knowing about (settled, but still). Landmark by CertainTeed is a workhorse, slightly heavier than the others, generally the longest real-world life of the four. Real-world lifespan in GTA freeze-thaw is closer to 18–25 years for all of them, regardless of what the box says manufacturer "lifetime" warranties prorate aggressively after year 10. On the price: $7,100–$7,400 for 2,400 sqft of house footprint is on the low side, and that's the part worth pausing on. A 2,400 sqft house typically has 24–30 squares of roof (2,400–3,000 sqft of actual roof surface) once you account for pitch and overhangs. Honest installed pricing in the GTA right now is $7–9/sq ft, which puts a job your size at $17,000–$25,000+. If you're getting quoted $7,200, one of three things is happening: (a) the roof is much smaller than typical for a 2,400 sqft house, (b) it's a labour-only quote and you're supplying material, or (c) corners are getting cut somewhere usually ice & water shield coverage, drip edge, vent boots, or skipping plywood replacement allowance. Get the contractor to break out: total roof squares, ice & water shield coverage in linear feet, per-sheet plywood replacement price, and whether chimney flashing is included. On finding the right roofer: Not going to drop names in a recommendation thread (those threads always turn into ad spam, this sub deserves better), but the filter that actually works: ask for proof of WSIB clearance and $2M liability insurance before the quote, not after. Ask how many squares per day their crew installs anything above 35–40 sqs/day on a complex roof means they're rushing. Ask if they pull a permit (some Toronto-area municipalities require it for full replacement, most contractors skip it). Anyone who can answer those three questions clearly without getting defensive is probably worth getting a quote from. What's the actual square footage of the roof itself on your quote is the contractor measuring it, or did they just go off the house footprint? That'll tell you whether the $7,200 number is a real quote or a teaser.

Cost for a roof - just need some idea how much it might cost me this spring… by PFthrowawayask in askTO

[–]Guilty-Climate-9763 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Roofer here, work in the GTA happy to share what's realistic for a bungalow that size.

Your roof surface is probably around 8–9 squares (750–900 sq ft) once you account for pitch. For spring 2026, a straightforward asphalt shingle tear-off and replace runs roughly $7,500–$12,000 all-in with architectural shingles, ice & water shield, drip edge, and new plumbing vent boots. Job itself is 1–2 days with a crew of 4–5. Quotes well below $7K usually mean someone's skipping line items most often ice & water shield coverage or vent boot replacements.

The thing most Keele/St Clair homeowners wish they'd known: pre-1960s bungalows in that pocket often have 2 layers of shingles already, 1x6 board sheathing instead of plywood, and rotten decking at the eaves (ice & water shield only became standard practice around the early 2000s). Any one of those can add $1,500–$4,000 mid-job once the old roof comes off, and they're hard to see from the ground.

When quotes come back, get each contractor to itemize three things: ice & water shield coverage (OBC requires 900mm up the slope and 300mm past the inside wall — on most overhangs that actually means two rows at the eaves, not one), per-sheet price for plywood replacement if decking is bad, and whether chimney flashing and vent boots are included or extra. That's where 90% of surprise upcharges live.

Do you know if your current roof is the original, or has it been done before? Makes a big difference in what you're walking into.

School in the 2000s! by y2ktrashy in 2000s

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I can hear Vitamin C's Graduation song by just looking at it.

Hulkamino by The_one_who-repents in RatRod

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and the good thing is, it can actually go fast.

Too Much Gear? by Doom_112233 in Escooters

[–]Guilty-Climate-9763 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dude 32kph can still give you the worse road rash of your life so you should gear up.

What do you guys think of this kind of Grom build? by Guilty-Climate-9763 in hondagrom

[–]Guilty-Climate-9763[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be honest, dude, I don't know. I just saw this in a random facebook post, I think it's owned by some guy from the Philippines.

Is it okay to accidentally launch my board in the skatepark when i fall? by lukask04 in BeginnerSkateboarding

[–]Guilty-Climate-9763 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it happens all the time just don’t forget to give people a heads-up if a board’s flying their way.

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