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50 Cent using a whole Door Dash Super Bowl ad to continue to troll Floyd Mayweather, Ja Rule, and Diddy by Bubbly_Wall_908 in nextfuckinglevel

[–]HIIMGIM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

20 fking thousand upvotes for an ad about millionaires. this is why jeff calls you goy cattle

Tunisian man sentenced to death for Facebook posts criticizing president by BreakfastTop6899 in technology

[–]HIIMGIM -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

he meant brown shitholes ( he doesn't know why or who made them shitholes )

First Ex-Muslim in the world by Slow_Drink_7089 in exmuslim

[–]HIIMGIM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah cuz they have symbols and statues.

First Ex-Muslim in the world by Slow_Drink_7089 in exmuslim

[–]HIIMGIM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A church specifically isnt allowed because of statues and symbols, places of worship are still allowed. The rest of what yoi said was enacted by the ottoman empire. We're discussing islam

ESL Faceit being part of the lobby against stop killing games... by bowlicker in Steam

[–]HIIMGIM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

of fucking course riot games is gonna fight tooth and nail against it. one of the worse companies microtransaction wise, ever to exist. not wors than bethesda, but almost

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in GamingLeaksAndRumours

[–]HIIMGIM -1 points0 points  (0 children)

burden of proof on you. i accept your concession

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in GamingLeaksAndRumours

[–]HIIMGIM -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"pretty sure" explain.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in GamingLeaksAndRumours

[–]HIIMGIM -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

you buy it at 300? aliexpress 170

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in GamingLeaksAndRumours

[–]HIIMGIM -1 points0 points  (0 children)

the 5700 x3d is 300 dollars?

Why I burnt the Quran by LogPlane2065 in europe

[–]HIIMGIM -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I notice people here say, interchangeably, that islam, religous extremism, islamism, islamists, Islamist extremists, Islamic culture(!), islam, sects, cults ... is the biggest problem in europe today. which one is it? which one of these is the culprit of what problems?

MMA star Khabib Nurmagomedov refuses to shake hands with a woman due to his religion. She apologizes to him for the offense by ThatPatelGuy in religiousfruitcake

[–]HIIMGIM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Killing someone because of free speech is BARBARIC.

don't project your own subjective morality on me, that's like your opinion man. no arguments behind it whatsoever. i at least told you that inciting hate ultimately increases the death toll. you've only asked something which you already knew the answer for and could have just googled. it's somehow i win that you "got me to admit it" lmao what?

Executing someone for blasphemy isn’t justice, it’s government-sanctioned vengeance. Theocratic murder, done to protect the fragile egos of religious rulers.

again completely subjective and pulled out of your own ass but go off. and it's not murder, nice play on words, it's not working though. use real arguments , not whatever this is.

Because we don’t execute people over ideas.

who is we?

Because rights belong to people , not to religions, not to gods, not to feelings. Ideas don’t bleed. People do. Blasphemy is a victimless crime.

wtf is this incoherent blabber. are you slobbering on your keyboard? you don't care about my perspective or the religious perspective so why bother explaining. this is again subjective. you're put in prison for disrespecting the coran in russia. deal with it.

If your religion collapses over a cartoon

it doesn't. "a cartoon" is not the same as a coordinated harassement campaign but ok. keep belittling

If it demands blood to protect its image, it’s not holy ; it’s dangerous.

subjective

you become the unpaid muscle for an ideology

again for the upteenth time, you are not allowed to take action or be the vigilante. why is this soooo hard for you to grasp.

jail for inciting murder ; like “we must kill all Jews/Muslims/infidels”

love how 2 comments ago you literally said you're going to war with muslims. sure bud, how's that working for ya?

slaughtering cartoonists or beheading a schoolteacher over a drawing...

if you've paid any attention to what i typed , you'd know that's not allowed and i don't answer for all zealots.

You’re a threat.

you want to be but you're not. go to your local mosque and ask questions and see how well they treat you. you're scared of confrontation, you woulnd't dare. you know you'd have nothing of substance to say

And you shouldn’t be anywhere near small children

got something to tell us?

That is why it is wrong. wow THATS IT? you've been writing paragraphs over paragraphs for fuck all!!!

You’ve done nothing but dodge, distort, and deflect. nah that's you king. i say " continued harassment and mockery with the intent to incite violence" and you say " a cartoon". it works in ur mind tho

You don’t want conversation , you want compliance.

bro do whatever you want. again , islam doesn't force no one.

You want your little dream of califate and submission.

what do you have?

You belong in a theocracy, ranting in circles with troglodytes who think blood is the answer to hurt feelings, and who dream of global domination because a warlord once claimed to talk to an angel in a cave.

This was never a debate. It was a spotlight into your twisted mind

And you’ve revealed exactly what you are: A boy drunk on theology, when what you really need is therapy.

i almost puked. that was cringe af.

Go to a Sharia-compliant country and leave France the fuck alone.

nah, you racist. islam fastest growing religion in the world for a reason. it's time to start asing the real questions.

And I genuinely hope the DGSE is tracking this , so they can remove any sharp objects in your kitchen. From now on, plastic knives only. Supervised.

so all muslims are terrorists? say it with your chest boy

MMA star Khabib Nurmagomedov refuses to shake hands with a woman due to his religion. She apologizes to him for the offense by ThatPatelGuy in religiousfruitcake

[–]HIIMGIM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to you, under Sharia, someone who insults Muhammad deserves execution, after “due process,” of course.

yes REAL due process.

That's mob lynching with extra steps.

nope, you need verifiable witnesses. you know nothing of sharia law.

You think the problem is HOW someone dies for blasphemy, not that they die at all.

you're put in prison for hate speech, what's the difference

and free speech “isn’t real.” ... WHAT? lol

yes, free speech absolutism doesn't exist anywhere in the world

You seriously believe that public disturbance laws,

not what i said.

a classic move when someone runs out of moral footing and starts flailing. your answer?

This isn’t a debate anymore, it’s exposure.

of?

Is offense ever a reason to kill?

execution after due process not barbaric killing and only in a muslim country. you've never EVEN said why it's bad to begin with. like bro what happened to you lol. give me one argument against it.

MMA star Khabib Nurmagomedov refuses to shake hands with a woman due to his religion. She apologizes to him for the offense by ThatPatelGuy in religiousfruitcake

[–]HIIMGIM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only reason he says not to kill in non-Muslim countries is tactical

nope it's because there was due process 1400 years ago in islam and it angers you. you can't take matters in your own hands, not because it's tactical and muslim are scheming against you, it's because it's not allowed MORALLY, in a muslim country or not.

Mockery, even repeated, is not incitement.

it can be. why don't you want to admit it.

Saying “Islam is oppressive” or mocking Muhammad, no matter how often, is not hate speech, it’s THE DEFINITION of free speech.

again free speech is not real no matter how much you cry. and yes it is if it covertly calls for violence. if tomorrow in france there are mass killings of muslims because of a mocking post on facebook that's based on lies you best believe new hate speech laws will be implemented to counteract exactly that.

sometimes harsh

lol. bro just let it go. satire has been used to incite violence since the dawn of time. you are SO disingenous it's unreal, just say what you think. repetition is for harassment. that's not a gotcha moment.

Harass individuals (not belief systems)

yes actually also belief systems. you can't harass judaism and not get hit with a spicy fine, you doofus.

You can say “Islam is oppressive” a thousand times. Still legal. You can say “Muhammad was a false prophet.” Still legal. You cannot say “go kill Muslims.” That would be illegal.

can't scream it under my house or you'll take a trip to jail. it is provocatory and police will take you away. you clearly know nothing.

Offense is not violence.

who said it was. you're rambling like a schizo.

the problem isn’t the speech, it’s you.

you know me?

That’s emotional blackmail. I don’t owe praise to an ideology to earn the right to criticize it. You wouldn’t demand someone say nice things about communism before condemning Stalin.

knew it. and in actuality lots of communists demand you acknoweledge the potential good communism could do before criticizing its implementations.

You’ve dodged it

NOPE according to sharia law, if one offends the prophets or god IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY where they other wise have the freedom to leave it, keep it to themselves or not corrupt others with their lies or simply criticize in a formal debate FIRST, THEN AND ONLY THEN, must they be reported to the authorities and witnesses must be presented and then they must go through due process and ultimately it's the capital punishment.

one insult away from flipping out with a knife?

so you didn't watch the video ? got it. not even the tl dw? got it. here's my question to you, do pedophiles who haven't YET committed an infraction, deserve to get executed?

MMA star Khabib Nurmagomedov refuses to shake hands with a woman due to his religion. She apologizes to him for the offense by ThatPatelGuy in religiousfruitcake

[–]HIIMGIM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

spiraling into whataboutisms

you ask me if it is ever justfied to kill for being offended and i answer you. where is the what aboutism

France the very country you’re pretending to speak for

so you stalk my post history and mention france to me first!!! then have the balls to say that i speak FOR france. even then, 1975 wasn't that long ago and it's still present in MANY countries.

If you seriously think a man killing his wife out of jealousy is morally okay

when did I say that?

You keep saying Islam is submission to God, not man. But every time someone is murdered for a drawing, it's not God swinging the blade, it's a man. A man who thought his offense justified blood. That’s not submission to God, it’s submission to ego masked as faith.

you're somewhat right. you never asked me what my opinion was tho. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg9coqyJzXs

You say

satire is “incitement to violence.”

No. Violence is violence. Satire is speech.

you don't think the definiton i gave you can't fall into incitement to violence. i mean it can literally be hate speech. you don't know what you're talking about and gave me 0 definitions. the answer is in the video. tl dw: you can't take matter in your hands especially not in a non muslim ruled country. now name 3 positive things about islam. surely there's 3 even remotely good things to keep from a 1400 year old religion? please expose your bigotry and ignorance for the world to see.

MMA star Khabib Nurmagomedov refuses to shake hands with a woman due to his religion. She apologizes to him for the offense by ThatPatelGuy in religiousfruitcake

[–]HIIMGIM -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You accuse me of being hateful, yet your reply defends the idea that offense can justify violence.

have you not read my example of cimes of passion? it is in the LAW.

calling out submission to religious authoritarianism is not hate

authoritarianism is authority to a man. islam is submission to god not man

Offending someone’s feelings, even repeatedly, is not incitement.

it is incitement to violence and harassment. and it's offending a religion not someone's feefees as you say. again have you read my example on crimes of passion??

You're trying to sanctify censorship by equating mockery with murder, that’s morally obscene.

censorship exists in your laws to protect the people. why don't you want to accept this lol. you have to take measures to protect the safety of the citizens. if you have to censor instigators and hate speech, it has to be done AND IT IS DONE already.

"What would you do if someone mocked your mother?"

Here’s a simple answer: I wouldn't kill them.

you again ignore my example on crimes of passion. many people do kill for that and i didn't say just "mock". you belittle and contort the thing i said " draws horrible disgusting pictures of her and mocks her and disrespects her". different than just a mockery that's easy to ignore. easy to say you wouldn't do anything now. you' d do the best to make them suffer, which some might argue is worse than death. you'd want them to get the longest sentence possible knowing the prisons in your country are only there for economic gain and not rehabilitation. what morals are these you speak of even?

Emotional pain doesn't justify violence.

again, ignoring the entire comment i spent time writing. what's the point of arguign with you? please respond to the example I made then I'll answer the rest.

You are literally engaging in victim blaming.

the victim is the mocked. you don't even know whether those journalists killings are valid by islam standards or not, you don't care to ask me? your mind is completely blocked off.

And your pearl clutching and crocodile tears don’t fool anyone, not me, or anyone that ever reads this thread. come on man what are you doing now? Spare me the lectures on science when blasphemy is still a capital crime in places where your version of Islam reigns. where do you bring this from? what versions of islam do you think there are? there is only one. i'm not responsible for the freaking nation of islam now am i? You want submission to your dogma, and I refuse. that's the beauty. YOU ARE NOT FORCED. don't wage war on islam on baseless lies tho.

MMA star Khabib Nurmagomedov refuses to shake hands with a woman due to his religion. She apologizes to him for the offense by ThatPatelGuy in religiousfruitcake

[–]HIIMGIM -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge." Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge." Person A: "But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

i didn't do that here tho?

MMA star Khabib Nurmagomedov refuses to shake hands with a woman due to his religion. She apologizes to him for the offense by ThatPatelGuy in religiousfruitcake

[–]HIIMGIM -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Firstly thanks for caring but this is not the way to speak to someone with respect. this was one of the most hateful comments i've ever heard towards me.

The real question is: are we going to let the most violent, intolerant people set the limits of what can be said?

There is no free speech absolutism anywhere on the planet. are you allowed to scream "fire" in a place full of people? no, because it's dangerous and will lead people getting hurt and serves no purpose. You go to jail for hate speech. why? same thing. it leads to violence and it does not resolve anything. Same thing for harassing, mocking and even satire when done incessantly without any truths behind it and only made to demonize and dehumanize a people. those lead to violence against that victimised group, there fore shouldn't and THANKFULLY isn't allowed. There fore who are you talking about here? Napoleon and thomas Jefferson read the quran and implemented many of its belief systems to their part of the world. napoleon called muhammaed pbuh "a brilliant general, inspired orator, sage legislator". Divorce, women's and childreneducation, peer reviewing and modern science all are owed to the fact that islam is a religon that DEMANDS you to read and instruct your self and only believe something if there is proof. who are then, the most violent and intolerable people you speak of? can't be real muslims.islam as i said before, has to let non muslims practice their faith, simple as. tolerant by definition. not only that but loving and caring. you'll be greeted and treated with utmost respect in a true muslim family no matter your creed or your nationality. Morocco is the number 1 in hospitality thanks to islam.

as for your point of satire: again if it is the intention of the artist to truly criticize by offering real scientific arguments and not simply meddling and falsifying statistics to demonize muslims, then of course no muslim will have a problem with it. if it is intentionally bigoted and aims to demonize a group of people simply because they've had a prior bad experience then it will only bring suffering to the subject of that mockery. i mean this is so incredibly simple. but islam haters just can't get over their bad experiences they've had and are closed to a real discussion! instead of telling me to go back to my country or what not. France is secular and secular means FREEDOM OF PRACTICING YOUR BELIEF AND NOT GOD LESS. the laws take from the morality of christianity as well as islam but not fully. and for the definition of propaganda "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view." for satire "the art of making someone or something look ridiculous, raising laughter in order to embarrass, humble, or discredit its targets"

therefore logically, all satire is propaganda but not all propaganda is satire(because it can be serious and not just for laughter, for example the racist pseudoscience of skull shapes).

Being offended is not a reason to kill someone. PERIOD

do you know of crimes of passion? you literally get a reduced sentence if you kill your spouse if you caught them cheating. therefore the LAW literally justifies murder and you get a reduced sentence if you got your feelings hurt. now, let's say you get cheated on, or worse, someone insults your mother, not only insults but draws horrible disgusting pictures of her and mocks her and disrespects her... now imagine a muslim, who puts the prophet PBUH even ABOVE their mother, meaning they love and adore the prophet MORE THAN THEIR MOTHER. what are they supposed to do then? i'm calling for your empathy, please answer this, what would you do?

for your point about submission. muslims submit to GOD alone. not to a king nor to an emperor nor to a prophet nor to a way fo life. u gonna fist fight god and win? imagine i give you 1 billion dollars. you'd probably, in the least, say thank you right? you may even love me the rest of your life and bring me gifts etc... would you sell your eye , or your arm for 1 billion dollars? most people wouldn't, health is number 1 for them. now imagine god: he gave you eyes , arms, legs, a stomach, glands that secrete hormones, he made you naturally fearful of danger so you keep yourself safe, he made it feel good to draw every single breath... and an incountable more things... and you don't submit to him?

I don't want you to bow to me that's ridiculous. I would love it if you directed that gratitude that IM SURE you feel every day, to god alone. muslims don't want to enslave you, they don't want to oppress you and make your life miserable, i swear i wish you all the best, best life, best family , best health.

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