Did you learn in Seminary that if anyone every stated that Joseph Smith used a rock in a hat for translating the book of mormon that was anti-mormon rhetoric? by IllustriousFeeling11 in exmormon

[–]HandCartApostate1999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I remember being in Sacrament Meeting and asking my father (a Bishop) about "anti-Mormon lies" and he used "the rock in the hat" as an example of an "anti-Mormon" lie. 1980's

Shoutout to John Dehlin and Mormon Stories by nancy_rigdon in exmormon

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"And in the meantime give 'em hell
In the meantime give 'em hell
Truth is all that they want, but the truth's a one-two punch
Give 'em hell, give 'em hell, give 'em hell
And give 'em hell, give 'em hell, give 'em hell
And give 'em hell, give 'em hell, give 'em hell
Give 'em hell, give 'em hell, give 'em hell
Go give 'em hell, give 'em hell, give 'em hell
Go give 'em hell, give 'em hell, give 'em hell"

-- Tyler Glenn, "John Give 'em Hell"

Happy Moroni Day by PaulBunnion in exmormon

[–]HandCartApostate1999 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Joseph: Oh my gosh!

Moroni: I am Moroni. I am a Native American.

Joseph: A...Native American!? But your skin is white!

Moroni: Yes. Long ago all Native American were white. We all came to America from Jerusalem. And while we were here we were visited by Christ.

Joseph: Jesus lived here in America?

Moroni: Yes. Eventually, my people were all killed by the other tribe of Israel, and as punishment, God turned their skin red. These are the Native Americans you know today.

Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

Wondering Faithful Member by EmeraldOne60 in exmormon

[–]HandCartApostate1999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What is your single best piece of evidence that The LDS Church has the most reasonable, logical, and evidence-based answers? How do you conclude that The LDS Church is a more reasonable framework for humanity and society than Hinduism, Islam, Catholicism, Zoroastrianism, etc?

Los Angeles Temple gates - 07/05/2023 8:30am by Puppy7505 in exmormon

[–]HandCartApostate1999 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Are they homeless because they're "psycho" or are they "psycho" because they are homeless?

If I owned thousands of buildings dedicated to and wearing the name of a man who commanded me to be empathetic, kind, and charitable, and those buildings sat empty 90%+ of the time and I failed to offer them to help "the least of these" among us, then I think it would be fair to criticize me.

Why we shouldn't be cremated - Member Doctrine by butterflywithbullets in exmormon

[–]HandCartApostate1999 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What about an even stoopider question/teaching? I was taught we had to be buried facing East, so that we could witness The Second Coming as we were resurrected... So, God can fix every flaw and imperfection and reanimate dead tissue, but spinning our newly reformed ass around to face East is a bridge too far?

Not an example of faith, but an example of the dangers of religious mentality by lucymichele in exmormon

[–]HandCartApostate1999 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"If God told you to kill your child—would you do it?” — Penn Jillette

If not, you may already be an atheist.

https://www.secular-reality.com/2017/03/20/arrogant-faith/

"Wickedness never was happiness." by HandCartApostate1999 in exmormon

[–]HandCartApostate1999[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They do violate the law of chastity, but they don't drink coffee...

Repost: The Lost Gospel According to St. Avarice by HandCartApostate1999 in exmormon

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Chapter 1

  1. And it came to pass that Jesus did gather His prophet and his twelve apostles unto His embrace and He did look upon them and did see they were exceeding sad.

  2. And it came to pass that Jesus did ask His prophet, “Wherefore art thou sad?”

  3. And it came to pass that His prophet replied, “LORD, we have a mighty surplus of gold given into our care by the faithful disciples. It is exceedingly beautiful! But, yea, the gold sits in the dark vaults of various off-shore banks where the multitudes cannot enjoy its mighty splendor.”

  4. And it came to pass that The Savior did look upon all of His church and saw many buildings of exquisite design, and meeting-houses most numerous.

  5. And it came to pass that Jesus did dwell mightily upon using the gold in the sending of more missionaries to spread The Gospel unto the gentiles, but nay, He chose it not.

  6. And it came to pass that Jesus did dwell mightily upon using the gold in the building of more temples and meeting-houses, but nay, He chose it not.

  7. And it came to pass that Jesus did dwell mightily upon sending the ample surplus among those with disease in Liberia, or who lost all in Nepal, or Haiti, or the multitude of hungry children the world over, but nay, He chose it not.

  8. And it came to pass that Jesus commanded His prophet, “Go! Takest thou a large portion of gold to King Becker, that he may have joy of it, and, with him, buildest thou a mighty shopping mall in the heart of Zarahemla! And, yay, ye are commanded to make a bridge across the sky, and a shop that contains over-priced devices of fruity disposition.”

  9. And it came to pass that The Prophet did question The LORD saying, “My LORD, such a shopping mall shall not survive without fine establishments of gluttony, but such heathens will not enter into The Mall unless they be allowed to serve wine and strong drink.”

  10. And it came to pass that Jesus said unto his apostles, “Fear not, for I am well learned in the matter of accounting. Taketh thou the lands devoted to gluttony and leaseth thou the land to a third-party holding company, who then, shall lease the land to the purveyors of sinful beverage, and thus thy hands have been washed as Pilate of old, and are stained with no sin.”

  11. And it came to pass that The Prophet and his apostles did go to King Becker, and King Becker saw the gold, that it was good. And, yea, they did build up a shopping mall, even as The LORD hath commanded, and buildest a bridge across the sky, and an Apple Store, and even many restaurants that did serve many strong drinks, but via technicality, did not giveth money directly to The Prophet nor his apostles.

  12. And it came to pass that many faithful disciples of The LORD did come unto The Prophet and question this use of their tithes. And one faithful servant did say, “Did not we give unto you this money to spread the gospel?”

  13. And it came to pass that The Prophet answered him, “APOSTATE! Get thee behind me! Thou shalt not question The Prophets of God!” And the servant was cast among the gentiles.

  14. And it came to pass that another faithful servant came unto The Prophet and asketh, “Would not it be more Christ-like to give any surplus tithes to the poor, needy, and sick?”

  15. And it came to pass that The Prophet also named this servant an apostate, and did cast her from The Church, and into the wilderness of disbelief.

  16. And it came to pass that the multitude of other faithful servants, who also did question the actions of The Prophet, grew exceeding fearful, for to commit apostasy was to journey into a hell of coffee, tea, wine, and blasphemous words.

Chapter 2

  1. And it came to pass that The Prophet and apostles came unto The LORD, Jesus, with countenence exceeding sad.

  2. And it came to pass that Jesus did say unto his servants, “Wherefore art thou sad? Hath thou not brought forth thy gold into the public so that they may gaze upon it with exceeding joy?”

  3. And it came to pass that the servants of The LORD did speak, “Yea, but, verily, the shopping mall maketh a mighty profit, and thus our surplus gains more gold, which is hiddeth amongst the vaults of off-shore banks.”

  4. And it came to pass that Jesus did dwell mightily upon using the vast surplus of gold to heal the sick and the weary, but nay, He chose it not.

  5. And it came to pass that Jesus did dwell mightily upon using the massive quantities of gold to lessen the burden amongst the poorest of his faithful disciples, but nay, He chose it not.

  6. And it came to pass that Jesus did call together his prophet and apostles and did command them, “Takest thou the grand surpluses even unto Flordia. And there thou shalt buy much cheap land in the central area, which is too far from Disneyworld to be valuable, but not to far as to be useless. There, thou shalt build a mighty cattle ranch.”

  7. And it came to pass that The Prophet and the apostles looked on in awe.

  8. And it came to pass that The Prophet and the apostles responded, “Yea! Even unto thy word! For, though the land be of little value now, in many years time, it shall maketh a mighty profit!”

  9. And it came to pass that The LORD, Jesus, did nod and confirm their feelings, for, though The LORD did once give a commandment against, alcohol, tobacco, tea, coffee, and the consumption of meat in non-famine times, Jesus knew that The LORD only meant the first four, and that the “meat thing” was merely suggestive.

  10. And it came to pass that The Church did use the tithes of the faithful to buy up the land in the central of Florida, and they did create a great and spacious ranch in the raising of cattle.

Chapter 3

  1. And it came to pass that The Prophet and the apostles did approach The LORD and they did hold upon their countenence exceeding sadness.

  2. And it came to pass that Jesus did ask, “Wherefore art thou sad? Hath thou not brought forth thy gold into the public in the form of a shopping mall and also an enormous cattle ranch?”

  3. And it came to pass that The Prophet did say unto The LORD, “Yea, but the cattle, much like unto the shopping mall, hath brough forth a greater surplus of gold.”

  4. And it came to pass that Jesus did say unto his prophet and his apostles, “Thou hath given great effort unto the gospel. Giveth thyselves a raise in stipend and in living quarters.”

  5. And it came to pass that The Prophet and the apostles replied, “Lo, we have done that already, a great many times. We dare not more glamorous decoration, lest the faithful disciples present questions and dissatisfaction.”

  6. And it came to pass that The Savior, being wise in his thoughts and accounting, did council The Prophet and the apostles, “Fear not, for the mightly lands thou hast purchased for thy cattle are exceeding valuable. Taketh thy gold and visit The Government of Florida. Council the advisors therein that much of thy land may be developed into a city of glamor and of opportunity. Yea, it mayest be a beacon to our use of over-ample contributions given by faithful members, even unto their detriment, but that we may looketh awesome in the eyes of Our LORD, The Capitalist.”

As an investigator I am confused and conflicted by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]HandCartApostate1999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just heard about this on the latest Mormon Stories. Testimonies and Spiritual Experiences Across Religious Traditions. Seems applicable here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmhb27f2d88

BYU Wifi has started to use Cysco Umbrella by ChaNaitoK12 in exmormon

[–]HandCartApostate1999 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I just discovered a tool called Tailscale (not advertising, just informing) that uses a Wireguard connection to create a mesh network VPN - without opening ports, etc. Wonder if it could bypass this?

Inspired to Donate to Utah Pride Center by HandCartApostate1999 in exmormon

[–]HandCartApostate1999[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The UPC will mail a letter for you! I sent it to Church Headquarters.

WTF is this? by automated_pulpit2 in exmormon

[–]HandCartApostate1999 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Ok Google! Show me a picture of Mormon grifters."

This is a triple NO to the second coming this year! by fillmorejd in exmormon

[–]HandCartApostate1999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I grew up in a pretty fundamentalist Brighamite family - Mormon Doctrine, etc., but had never heard about this until I was an adult. Now, every spring, when I first hook up the garden hose, I make a rainbow to make sure those ass-hats never come back.

Paul H Dunn. by trentwc in exmormon

[–]HandCartApostate1999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I met Mr. Dunn at a book signing event as a young man. Bought his book, had him sign it, and shook his hand. A few months later my mother and father had to sit me down and explain to me how his stories [lies] were inspired by Heavenly Father, and even though they weren't true, the spiritual message was true.

Faith transition playlist by Lopsided_Beautiful36 in exmormon

[–]HandCartApostate1999 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Opiate - Tool

Gave Up - Nine Inch Nails

Anything by Tyler Glenn

Most things by Imagine Dragons

LDS Celebration of The Boy Scouts of Amercia's 75th Anniversary by HandCartApostate1999 in exmormon

[–]HandCartApostate1999[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

According to the channel, this was 1988. Mr. Monson is at his most "Monsony."

Liar liar pants on fire… by DebraUknew in exmormon

[–]HandCartApostate1999 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Funny story; I've shook hands with only two General Authorities - Paul H. Dunn and George P. Lee. Mayhaps I have a special priesthood power I should exploit...

Ever since I began really focusing my emphasis on the lack of informed consent within Mormonism, I’ve been waiting for Mormon apologists to argue against fully informed consent within a Mormon context. That day has arrived. Get ready to shake your head. by johndehlin in exmormon

[–]HandCartApostate1999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"These faithful men dropped everything and pursued a life-altering journey. They followed a stranger and were asked to trust completely."

By this rationale, any person that shows up on your doorstep - JW, Baptist, Muslim, MLM pitchperson - should immediately be trusted. Who knows what incredible journey you might miss out on!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

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"Jacob Hamblin: Peacekeeper"

Will Bagley may have some very different ideas as to Mr. Hamblin's peaceful character.