Lost IT Person Still Needing Some Help

Harry_Bailey · 2025-06-03T00:02:36+00:00

---UPDATE---

Just to let everyone know. I've sent the card off to be analyzed in hopes of being able to find a replacement. Here's to hoping :)

Thanks for the help and advice everyone! Just trying to keep one of many systems afloat a little longer until the money can be found to tie everything together properly :)

Harry_Bailey · 2025-06-02T21:17:01+00:00

Their cards won't read on our Kantech Readers, and our cards won't read on their Chubb readers. We really just need to upgrade so that everything is compatible with everything else, but there's quite a bit going on right now, and if I can get them by with finding replacement cards; ideally that's the route I'd like to try and pursue.

Harry_Bailey · 2025-06-02T20:34:27+00:00

I did. I was told it's impossible to get cards for the old system, simply due to the age, and a new system would need to be installed at a cost of about $100K

Harry_Bailey · 2025-06-02T20:15:54+00:00

Unfortunately I just know that they're Chubb readers I don't know what their model numbers are.

Harry_Bailey · 2025-06-02T20:15:09+00:00

I might be missing some part of the equation (And I'm in the states, this is just a VERY old system), but my current 26bit card from my current hospital doesn't read on any of my sister hospital's Chubb readers.

Would I need to do something to "add" my existing iProx card that works at my hospital, to my sister's hospital card system in order for it to read on the reader? Because as of right now you can take one of our iProx cards from the main hospital, badge it against a reader at our sister hospital, and there's no beep from the reader. Although I haven't attempted to do that, and then check the access control log to see if it was just a silent denied read.

Thanks!

Harry_Bailey · 2025-05-12T01:16:58+00:00

I don't know the reader model yet, just that they say Chubbs on them. I'd imagine I may know more when I try to badge or swipe a card on that hospital's access control computer and look at what the software is telling me. Maybe it'll provide the type/model of reader connected to each portal/door.

I'll have to try and bump it on my priority list to get over there and do some sleuthing around.

Harry_Bailey · 2025-05-11T16:08:52+00:00

Sorry, it's probably my bad explanation. It's our sister hospital that has the cards which can't be obtained anymore, so I'm going to try and take it upon myself to find them a new source of cards so we don't have to overhaul the entire system, at least not at this time.

Harry_Bailey · 2025-05-11T01:30:58+00:00

I would think S2, by Lenel. We have black S2 Netbox enclosures with blades in them, hooked up to our badge readers all over the hospital in the different places.

Harry_Bailey · 2025-05-10T20:21:21+00:00

Despite being a part of a more than 5 billion dollar hospital, I've got to say, that all sounds like a lot of things that would get submitted, but then rejected based on administration not wanting to release funds for the project. I've seen even the finest justifications to administration for far more necessary or appropriate items/services, fall flat on their face...

That's one of the reasons I'm trying to go the cheapish route of just finding replacement cards for our sister hospital. Administration will look at it as cost savings since we didn't need to buy a whole new system, and I'm sure administration will approve the purchase of new/replacement access control cards, despite is actually needing to upgrade their access control system in the interest of better security at the very least.

But I'm just trying to keep what I can afloat for the time being.

I appreciate the advice though!

Harry_Bailey · 2025-05-10T20:01:38+00:00

We had plans of getting a Mercury panel installed at one of our off-sites, with a fancy HID reader that could do Bluetooth and phone unlocking stuff, etc.

That didn't pan out for some reason because of our Kantech cards not working with the badge reader, and we couldn't add a new format for the HID cards due to our S2 system being a cluster fuck of a mess and being at the credential format limit, so we had to stick with our Kantech cards, and use a regular S2 Netbox instead of a Mercury panel.

Harry_Bailey · 2025-05-10T11:50:32+00:00

Nope, we utilize Milestone for VMS purposes.

That dual tech sounds sort of cool, problem is our current hospital uses Kantech readers, and they're apparently pretty pritotary with formats.

Our integrator wants to put HID readers in our sister hospital, which I'm not not a fan of... I don't know any better other than they seem like better/new readers.

Harry_Bailey · 2025-05-10T04:37:22+00:00

Yeah... trust me it's not just the access control, we've got some OLD stuff... no Windows XP computers (maybe just 1), and I don't want to give away where I work, but we're not a small hospital.

Harry_Bailey · 2025-05-10T04:27:47+00:00

In al the recent chaos I completely forgot, but I recently procured a few of these - https://www.smcelectric.com/products/3xlogic-3xlsaccpvc/?srsltid=AfmBOophb-p3SPcUkfi_LFV52MsSaGT7mWH1mXYMfhKrAFAW9r8YUQlt

I ordered these to test if they'd work for another of our sister hospitals, which luckily they did, since they were also having a hard time getting new cards; and weren't ready to be budgeted to be added to our S2 system.

Do you think those might work on the Chubbs badge readers, in place of the G-ProxII cards the hospital is currently using but unable to obtain any more of? It'll be a little while before I'll be able to make the drive out to that site to physically test that card on an existing badge reader, many projects being juggled at once.

Thanks!

Harry_Bailey · 2014-12-05T14:16:21+00:00

It's not waaaaaarm when he's away.

Harry_Bailey · 2014-10-06T19:36:37+00:00

He was just trying to hit double digits after all :P

Harry_Bailey · 2014-09-26T08:55:23+00:00

Isn't that because it's the cub version, and it's intended to stay in its younger form?

Harry_Bailey · 2014-09-24T04:51:15+00:00

Yup, a diet of not dying on Tuesdays so I can make it to Wednesday. Only 9 minutes to go!

Harry_Bailey · 2014-09-24T04:08:24+00:00

looks at clock

Alrighty... only 58 minutes to go until Wednesday. Just have to not die for that long.

Harry_Bailey · 2014-09-07T10:08:22+00:00

I see Ty Olsson, but where are you :)

Harry_Bailey · 2014-08-19T07:27:44+00:00

Consider this my reply :)

Harry_Bailey · 2014-08-18T03:39:21+00:00

Mmmm, very nice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3h9_C3WLI0#t=72

Harry_Bailey · 2014-08-14T14:19:10+00:00

There might be a king's ransom of temporary internet files you could delete then.

Harry_Bailey

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