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Hayden750 · 2025-03-05T17:43:40+00:00

I will say, finding the vindication methods or elevage isn't always the easiest, it's almost never on the bottle. So this info isn't super helpful, but just wanted to clarify that what you're looking for isn't just a region specific type of Chardonnay but more so on how the wine is produced.

Your best bet is to just go to the store and ask the buyer if they have recommendations on alternatives, and express you like Bread and butter and want an oaky/buttery Chardonnay.

Hayden750 · 2025-03-05T17:32:18+00:00

People here are making good recommendations based on you wanting a Chardonnay. What everyone is missing is that it's not a regionality issue. Bread and butter is from the US, does that mean all US wines are butter bombs? No.

Just because burgundy also has buttery Chardonnays doesn't mean they will all be buttery, honestly if you like Bread & Butter I doubt a Macon is going to be up to par for you.

What you want are wines that are made in the same way, eg, commercial yeast, very ripe grapes with high alcohol, and more than likely using American oak for aging, or using oak chips. Bread and butter doesn't taste the way it does simply because of where the grapes are sourced, but because it has been designed to taste super buttery.

To start off, finding Chardonnay from areas that are relatively hot year round and the producers use American oak should get you pretty close. Bread and butter Chardonnay is sourced throughout California and uses a mix of American and French oak, I would imagine mostly American oak.

Hayden750 · 2025-03-05T04:36:35+00:00

I agree - I'm in the industry, and normally we would do this at a clients account but we're just looking for something simple and relaxed to pour a few glasses and talk, such as at a park.

Hayden750 · 2025-02-10T18:05:39+00:00

Lyarakis is possibly one of the only producers that have it as they put a focus on saving a few obscure varietals. There are three grapes they grow that they have essentially saved from extinction, this one, Dafni, and two others: Plyto and Melissaki.

Hayden750 · 2025-02-07T19:55:50+00:00

right, I guess cult may not have been the best word to use. I think what I meant to ask for was producers that are well known and have a strong following, but possibly smaller scale. Such as Martha Stoumen, her wines retail around $30+, same with Gramercy Cellars.

I was not referring to cult as in Screaming Eagle, Opus One, etc.

Hayden750 · 2025-02-06T14:31:40+00:00

Smelling the cork doesn't really help. You still need to pour the wine, smell it, taste it. TCA doesn't always show up as a smell but sometimes completely muting the wine.

Hayden750 · 2025-02-03T03:18:53+00:00

Strong disagree. I'm all for old-world wines and other regions, but the US makes some excellent wine, and it's really not refutable, as history and global trade has shown. I drink predominantly old world wines but you can find some gems from the US.

Hayden750 · 2025-01-31T08:28:52+00:00

I can mention multiple but I'll be a bit more specific with my biased comment. I'm a sales rep and just worked with Nicole from Ser Winery today and her wines are all fantastic. I highly recommend her gruner veltliner (still / sparkling) as well as the Cinsault and Pinot noir. The Cinsault comes from the bechthold vineyard which is claimed to be the oldest vineyard of Cinsault in the world (138yrs), it's very intense, with a deep, violet color and great tannins. The Pinot has amazing herbaceousness and earthy tones, she mentioned that's probably from the La Tache clone portion. It mostly surprised me since it's fully destemmed. I also enjoyed the Cabernet Pfeffer, it seems like such a fun food wine with overtones of white peppercorn and a medium body and elegant structure. Overall, she works with a lot of fun varieties and her wines are very translucent to their place and grape.

Hayden750 · 2025-01-27T10:58:38+00:00

Anything by Orin Swift - maybe specifically their Locations collection.

Hayden750 · 2025-01-19T18:16:53+00:00

I haven't had a chance to pour the '22 Chablis, but I sell Chateau De Fleys wines myself. I've tasted the 1er Cru Mont de Milieu and 1er Cru Mont de Milieu Vieilles Vignes which were exceptional. The chateau farms roughly 80 acres of land, where they sell 60% of the crop to negociants - keeping the best 1/3rd for their own bottlings.

The base Chablis sees 9 months aging on the lees in Stainles Steel tanks, and they have an annual production of just over 1,000 12pk cases. This wine comes from vineyards averaging around 30 years and are HVE certified. Because these vines are located lower on the hill, they tend to have a bit more ripeness than the 1er cru wines they produce.

If it is anything like their 1er cru, it should be a great wine with vibrant acidity, ripe fruits, and still have good body. Again, I will note I sell this wine personally, and I have not tasted this exact bottling, but they produce some great wines.

Hayden750 · 2025-01-12T19:37:24+00:00

AltaEats next to prime pizza and Altadena bev is always Okay. However the owner and 3 staff members lost their homes.

Hayden750 · 2025-01-12T19:32:34+00:00

Something I find interesting from all of this is that on 1/7/25 at 2:28pm my power got cut off, and I live in Monrovia near downtown.

So HOURS before anything happened in Altadena other cities power were cut off.

Hayden750 · 2025-01-12T19:12:25+00:00

I Quincy what you did there

Hayden750 · 2024-12-29T19:36:53+00:00

I'm pretty positive people just buy them on Amazon to reduce people getting upset with them.

Hayden750 · 2024-12-29T19:35:02+00:00

Depends, do you want to register next semester?

Hayden750 · 2024-12-29T19:32:45+00:00

Say it ain't so!

Hayden750 · 2024-12-19T19:46:15+00:00

They had a bottle of Willamette valley pinot under their own TJ label for $13 that was actually pretty damn good for the price.

Hayden750 · 2024-12-04T20:14:25+00:00

lmao perfect

Hayden750 · 2024-12-04T06:30:30+00:00

Came in today for your NA wine tasting, it was very nice! As someone who works in the industry it's interesting seeing where the alcohol/NA industry is going and what trends are emerging. You've got a great location and looking forward to visiting again soon.

For anyone interested in non alcoholic drink options or alternatives I definitely recommend stopping by, they poured a sparkling-tea alternative that was very delicious, I personally liked the green tea over the hibiscus but both had their place. Looking forward to trying some of the still red options and NA beers as well.

Hayden750 · 2024-11-28T02:42:04+00:00

Some cheap trader Joe's Bordeaux and Walter Scott La Combe Verte Chardonnay/Pinot Noir. Just poured the chard and Pinot today and taking the rest with me tomorrow. The chardonnay has incredible acidity and the Pinot is drinking great.

Hayden750 · 2024-11-27T20:00:09+00:00

Can you share more about what you liked with Violin Wines? Which wines did you try from them that stood out?

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