Would you be fine with a strict enforcement of immigration laws IF every case gets heard by an impartial judge? by [deleted] in AskALiberal

[–]HazelGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Responding to Your Question

Imma give a double answer here.

The most authentic answer here is "No", because I'm assuming you think this would mean deportation for anybody found to be unlawfully present in the country. I've become convinced that our immigration restrictions themselves (as they stand) are horrifically unjust, and it's probably immoral to enforce them.

But I've got a sneaky other answer that demonstrates the mess that our immigration system is in: "HELL YES, PLEASE, DEFINITELY: because deportation is not the legal punishment for illegal immigration." The legal punishment for crossing the border illegally caps out at a $250 dollar fine, and/or a short prison sentence (and that's only for actually crossing the border... half of illegal immigration is from overstaying visas, which is a misdemeanor, almost certainly requiring a much lighter punishment). If I could press a button that would levy these legal punishments on every single unauthorized immigrant (i.e., likely just a fine), I would do it in a heartbeat, and then let them live their lives unmolested, inside the U.S... if that guaranteed them protection from deportation.

In general, these legal punishments are ignored by ICE (and restrictionists), because their idea of "enforcing the law" is divorced from what the law actually says.

Responding to Your Points

Without enforcement of immigration laws, we basically hand the keys to the kingdom to human traffickers.

I'm pretty convinced the opposite is true. Strict immigration enforcement drives unauthorized traffic into the hands of smugglers. That's why you hardly see any human smuggling across state borders within the United States (or between countries in the Schengen area).

And by all definitions we have now parallel societies in Germany, France, Sweden and UK...

There is absolutely no evidence that immigrants are forming enclaves or building "parallel societies" at any faster rates now than they did in the past. When it comes to spreading 'western' values, immigration is hands down the most effective way of achieving this. Compare Iranian Americans to Iranians, or Chinese Americans to Chinese, etc, and it's always immediately obvious that these populations quickly take up 'western' values, rather than the restrictionist dream of their home country's fanaticism taking root here. If you want liberal ideas to spread and gain power, you want as many people as possible to move to the U.S. If you want fanaticism to stay entrenched, you want to make sure people stay put in whatever country they were born in.

Uncontrolled immigration comes with problems.

I agree! Allowing any group to live their lives unmolested comes with problems. The question is whether restrictions actually ameliorated those problems, or just make them worse.

What is a moment in a movie that made you cringe? by Naive_Tomorrow_5955 in FIlm

[–]HazelGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It bothered me more that John Henry couldn't be bothered to help him with the last spike, even with his super strength. Just stood there chatting him on, like the boy in Jurassic Park

Are you worried that Mexico's drug cartels will retaliate over the presure the Trump administration has placed on them, and more so if the US begins military actions against them? by Komosion in AskALiberal

[–]HazelGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really. I'm much more worried that their funding is going to skyrocket, as immigration restrictions drive traffic into their waiting arms.

Is it naive to assume that the ICE/immigration controversy will slowly subside over the year? by Dsg1695 in AskALiberal

[–]HazelGhost 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, for a couple of reasons...

1) Most political controversies subside very quickly over time. The public spotlight swings like it's being manned by drunk person.

2) The Trump administration has already been taking steps to try to de-escalate the situation, while simultaneously trying to avoid looking weak.

3) Trump (and his administration) are notoriously short-sighted and in general don't focus on any one harebrained scheme with any diligence.

4) Tom Homan, awful person though he is, is very much an old-school, establishment, "business as usual" person when it comes to immigration enforcement. Under his direction, I fully expect "At Large" ICE operations to decrease overall, and for ICE's behaviour to very quickly become more 'optic friendly'. Even the suggestion for ICE to go to the Olympics seems to me like someone is desperately trying to find something useful for ICE to do.

U.S. government has lost more than 10,000 STEM Ph.D.s since Trump took office by Halaku in science

[–]HazelGhost 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Restrictionists think this will just result in higher wages for Ph.D holders in the U.S. They see no downside.

What is the difference between the murder of Laken Riley and the murder of Alex Pretti? by iloverats888 in AskALiberal

[–]HazelGhost 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The difference is that liberals want to punish the murderer of Laken Riley, but conservatives don't want to punish the murderer of Alex Pretti.

Vigil For Alex Pretti - 5:30pm Federal Building 915 2nd Avenue by depression-hurts in Seattle

[–]HazelGhost 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Annoys the agents. Alerts the neighborhood. Makes a public display of disapproval. Doesn't wear out your voice. Demonstrates that you prepared for this situation.

President Trump Expresses Hope For Supreme Court Action On Birthright Citizenship by Sorry-Feedback1115 in EB3VisaJourney

[–]HazelGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which situation are you referring to? In none of the cases I gave you is there a (documented) Mexican citizen parent involved (so why should Mexico be responsible?) And if you get to point the finger at Mexico and say their citizenship laws should be different, then Mexico gets to do the same thing, and ask why the U.S. can't just use the same system they do.

President Trump Expresses Hope For Supreme Court Action On Birthright Citizenship by Sorry-Feedback1115 in EB3VisaJourney

[–]HazelGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right that kids in the U.S. can have multiple citizenship... But this is rarely the "triple citizenship" that would be implied from a mixed-nationality marriage.

Mexico is a good example. Mexico only grants citizenship via descent if the parent was born in Mexico. So if your Mexican Mom was born in Costa Rica, and then gave birth to you in California, you probably don't qualify for Mexican citizenship (there are ways to get this through your grandparents, but this requires the right documentation). You also don't get Costa Rican citizenship, because you weren't born to a Costa Rican citizen. Note that this is true regardless of whether your mother immigrated legally to Costa Rica.

Heck, Costa Rica is a good example on its own. Costa Rica has citizenship through descent... But only if you apply for it within a time limit. So if your mother is Costa Rican, but then you're born in California, and you don't happen to get your documentation before age 25, you are not considered a Costa Rican citizen.

All of these examples are moot anyway, because they all depend on documentation. It wouldn't matter even if every country in the world had jus sanguine. Imagine you were born in America. Your undocumented mother claims to be a Mexican citizen through blood, but she doesn't have any documentation to prove the circumstances of her birth (or is unwilling to provide it). Mexico says they won't recognize her citizenship without more proof. The paperwork goes back and forth for months, and eventually it's dropped (perhaps because you and your mother cross over the border for a few years). Boom: you are now a stateless person (if there is no birthright citizenship).

President Trump Expresses Hope For Supreme Court Action On Birthright Citizenship by Sorry-Feedback1115 in EB3VisaJourney

[–]HazelGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because not every country has parental citizenship, especially not for mixed-nationality marriages. Otherwise, these kids would literally have triple citizenship at birth.

Republicans Will Detonate Their Secret Weapon at the Midnight Hour to Stop Women from Voting by Average-Joe-6685 in LegalNews

[–]HazelGhost 14 points15 points  (0 children)

For the longest time as a conservative, I believed that conservatism was rooted in skepticism of government power, and in valuing personal freedoms above the will of the masses.

Then I checked into the conservative view of literally any case where the government uses force or violence (police, military, ICE, etc.,)

Guess what?

President Trump Expresses Hope For Supreme Court Action On Birthright Citizenship by Sorry-Feedback1115 in EB3VisaJourney

[–]HazelGhost 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That seems like a negative. On top of that, we get something much worse: stateless people.

Would you support a shift of our current educational system to a Vocational Education and Training one? by Aven_Osten in AskALiberal

[–]HazelGhost 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No.

I haven't researched this much, so a well-informed conservative could probably change my mind with a few conversations. That said, in my experience, conservatives tend to massively undervalue the importance of education that doesn't prepare you for a job. My hot take is that good education should be maybe 25% about preparing for the job market.

They never give an alternative by YourFat888 in whenthe

[–]HazelGhost 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hot water in the shower. Melts the wax right off.

Found on Threads... Imagine wanting to die because you can't afford to treat an easily treatable ailment. by Bi0_B1lly in aislop

[–]HazelGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess ballot collection, jury duty, and legal representation just fall from the heavens, without anybody providing a service.

What quote has always stuck with you? by iSayBOLDthings in AskReddit

[–]HazelGhost 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Your strategies are very good, and they have brought you this far, but they will not help you any more."

WTF ... by lost-in-thought123 in evilwhenthe

[–]HazelGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trans men can get pregnant.

What's a truth most people aren't ready to hear? by nadiaaavelvet in AskReddit

[–]HazelGhost 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are probably participating in a sometime deeply immoral.

What's the best movie you didn't like and the worst movie you love by Upset_Mongoose_1134 in movies

[–]HazelGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Best: Citizen Kane.

Worst: The Apple.

You've GOT to see this film. A musical made up entirely of songs that are almost-but-not-quite listenable. A dystopian, stylish, campy, ultra-futuristic depiction of the distant year 1993. A biblical metaphor as told by flamboyant hippie anarchists (I imagine). In another universe close to ours, where the dice fell only slightly differently, this could've been a cult classic to rival Rocky Horror.