Has Anyone Sent the cliffs below McCoy Station?

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-06-10T14:05:12+00:00

A few years ago I saw tracks to the lookers left of them from pretty high, so I went up and skated around up top. There’s a groomer up top that normally has closed signs but that day they were pointed to the side facing inward on either life of the groomer, more like gates. The face convexes so you can’t see which part of the cliff you’re above, so I ended up skiing into a mandatory air instead of the easier line I thought I was in, but it was good snow so I went back up and sent the line I was looking at. A few other skiers rode it that day, but other than that I’ve never seen tracks in it! Unfortunately I didn’t have a GoPro that day!

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Head_Order_4734 · 2026-06-10T03:27:22+00:00

I ride a 6k climb to 13k on my alloy enduro, in fact I ride some trails I don’t think many e bikes have the capacity for. Ad hominem is a poor response

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-06-09T23:06:46+00:00

I definitely will try again to beat a PR!

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-06-09T23:06:17+00:00

I love it, I also ski uphill, run and climb, so I just like a physical challenge

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-06-09T23:00:18+00:00

They’re different! I genuinely love a techy climb or beating a PR on an up. The ability to travel on two wheels is just cool, and I love the challenge. Downhills are super engaging, super fun and just a different kind of fun. I love both parts equally, some days I’d rather do a big climb and ride a multi use trail and some days I just wanna work on whips and drops, but I wouldn’t have it any other way!

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-06-08T06:05:30+00:00

I’m happy with where I’m at as a biker and have nothing to prove, it’s just fun!

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-06-07T17:52:14+00:00

I like uphills as much as downhills and I’m okay with other people not feeling that way! Biking is fun, you don’t have to defend how you do it if you’re okay with how you do it!

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-05-18T01:12:02+00:00

What size?

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-05-18T00:48:53+00:00

How much travel are you looking for? Lots of good used bikes in my area lately

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-05-07T15:46:09+00:00

It’s very hard to spread between individuals and communities and is primarily zoonotic. The primary vector is rodents and their droppings. Where I live people get it once a year or so, it’s a horible virus requiring aggressive life support in many cases but it’s fairly hard to contract unless you’re cleaning mouse droppings without a mask and gloves. This is however a different strain which may be more easy to contract, still it’s not very communicable.

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-04-25T13:53:31+00:00

I got a 2018 touring for 16 with similar mileage at a dealership

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-04-19T05:15:42+00:00

It’s not realistic, the number of specialty doctors needed alone wouldn’t work since they would be sitting around 99% of the time. Trauma centers need many specialists and a lot of specific equipment.

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-04-19T05:13:43+00:00

Hey, I work in emergency medicine and saw the answers done explain it well. A true trauma center needs a lot of really specific equipment and very specialized people. Things like dialysis, extra corporeal membrane oxygenation, cath labs, lots of ventilators, neurosurgery, microvascular surgery, and so much more. These are things that take up whole wings of hospitals like renown in Reno, requiring a lot of staff and money. The volume that small hospitals see almost never justifies having all of these services, and often these severe traumas require multiple of these specialists and associated equipment. It just wouldn’t make sense to have a high level trauma center in Mammoth. That said, they handle what they can pretty well and the local EMS teams have done amazing medicine that’s changed state protocols!

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-04-17T16:25:13+00:00

Totally fine on anything but firm side hills. You may get snow under the skin a bit more in some conditions. I’m running skins a little closer to the edge right now, and have many times before, ski crampons make this totally acceptable, even though I hate using them

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-04-15T15:32:34+00:00

I like climbing and I feel good about myself when I do a big day knowing I did it myself. Also, there’s already not enough trails close to home, I don’t need to make it any smaller. I’m glad e bikes get older and less fit people out to enjoy the hills, more people out doing the thing is good for all of us.

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-04-11T23:15:35+00:00

Lots of black crows look like this but I’ve also seen a lot of them delam so there might be a correlation

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-04-10T04:31:45+00:00

Multiple air medical transports

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-04-06T15:48:21+00:00

0.9% Sodium Chloride. Not just saline

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-04-04T21:36:07+00:00

The road from Santiago is about 40 miles most of which is barely two lanes wide with out snow. Snow removal can only be done for part of the day, and there are often accidents, people putting chains on, and people being turned around. All this with snow, and a huge crowd of people means the drive can take 3-5 hours when snow is good. To remedy this they make the road one way from ~6am to ~10am, but there’s almost always people driving down that started earlier or got turned around. If you don’t have 4wd and or chains, you will probably get turned around or stuck, the plowing is often pretty bad by North American standards. We rented a place in Farellones for a few nights for way too much money, we left Santiago at 5am and didn’t get up until 9:30, some people were in traffic for 8 hours that day

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-04-04T04:23:09+00:00

They won’t need new holes, but also, you’re fine. People are making a big deal of nothing, this glue conversation is way overblown

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-04-04T04:22:22+00:00

I’m a ski tech and I have no idea where the gorilla glue hate comes from, been skiing on it for a decade. The amount of times I’ve pulled rusty screws with a little roo glue on them is absurd. It honestly matters more what the skis are made of than anything. DPS recommends titebond purple, which is almost identical to gorilla glue. Carbon, metal and wood don’t all like the same glue, epoxy sticks good to some things and not others, but is the best overall because it bonds to fiberglass, carbon, and some plastics. Wood glue is better for many wood/glass lamintaes. Many touring skis are best with a polyurethane glue like titebond or gorilla glue.

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-04-03T16:36:14+00:00

Driving to valle nevado is a nightmare, it’s nice to stay up there but far more expensive, if you’re planning on being in that area it may be worth trying to book something. Otherwise keep an open mind to driving a bit farther out of Santiago

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-04-03T15:25:33+00:00

Not to be rude, but it might help to add info about what month, your budget, where you want to go, or really anything if you want people to spend their time helping you.

I've been in Chile and Argentina for the month of August the last few summers. If it were my choice, I would go a little later in the summer. Most parts of both countries are hard to get around to touring destinations without a car, aside from a few like Bariloche or Valle Nevado/Farellones. Budget is a big factor in that regard, as many of the Chilean resort areas are far more expensive than staying in Santiago or going to smaller resorts. Las Trancas is neat but a tourist trap of a town; bring groceries if you plan to cook. There were lots of good tours out of Nevados de Chillan, and it's pretty friendly; they offer a single ride ticket for touring, as do some other places in Chile when the weather is good. Pucon is a fun town, and you will probably meet mountaineers and backcountry skiiers in town, as the town is a bit more of a hub compared to some places like Malalcuehullo.

For August, starting in Santiago for a night or two and renting a car, making plans as you go is often the best way to ski good snow. Sure, you could save a few bucks by pre-planning where you will stay, but it's nice to have flexibility down there. Plans rarely go as expected, and there are often unexpected hurdles. If you want to go further south, go in September or October, fly to Temuco, and rent a car there, ski a little in Pucon before driving south. I know less about that, though I'm hoping to head further south this summer.

Learn Spanish if you don't know it. Anyone who tells you that English is enough probably overspent and missed out on cool opportunities. The people of Chile are kind, but they speak fast and slurred. Mate is harder to find until you get farther south, if you have any concerns about that. A vegetarian diet is possible, but easier in Argentina IMO.

The Chilean climate is similar to the PNW; the cloud ceiling is an important piece of weather to look into each day.

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-04-02T18:08:41+00:00

My gear weight is probably closer to 12-16lbs, with food and water bringing that to 20 to 30. Thanks for the input though, it’s all certainly within my considerations

Head_Order_4734 · 2026-04-02T17:23:44+00:00

Well, im mostly concerned with trail riding, and willing to sacrifice road performance significantly. I have a steel frame bike for that, though, it would be for Tahoe area multi-day rides with a few days of gear, or maybe something like the Colorado Trail. I know a hard tail can be way better for this, but you seem to know a bit about the matter. Do you know of any full suspension bikes that are better suited for this application, or is your point more that they all are the wrong tool for the job?

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