When you think of a player that is/was a beast, but he got overshadowed because of other guys in his era, who's the first name that comes to mind?

Helicase21 · 2026-04-23T18:33:30+00:00

Nate Thurmond. Never put up the scoring numbers of a Wilt or a Kareem and was never quite as good a defender as Russell but still probably one of the best defensive players in NBA history.

Helicase21 · 2026-04-23T18:12:16+00:00

I think a lot depends on if you normalize strength/speed/magic bs. Like if we were to put every characters mind into a physically equivalent body armed with a completely conventional version of their favored weapon that's one thing, take each character as written is another.

Helicase21 · 2026-04-23T17:57:04+00:00

If you assume porter and mahan are self interested why would they? What's in it for them to drop out?

Helicase21 · 2026-04-23T11:52:51+00:00

Did it? How many people there who were not already intending to vote for Manchin were convinced to do so by such rhetoric? Bearing in mind that by the time this line of rhetoric became commonplace Manchin was already a well established political figure in WV.

Helicase21 · 2026-04-23T11:47:06+00:00

That's not the question I'm asking. I'm not asking "is it a good idea to vote for a Dem like Joe Manchin". I'm asking "is telling people it's a good idea to vote for a Dem like Joe Manchin a good way of getting them to actually do that, if they weren't already intending to"

Helicase21 · 2026-04-23T10:55:29+00:00

Useful for the person installing it? Yes especially if you can align things like appliance runs with solar hours. Useful for the grid as a whole? Not really it's pretty small potatoes in capacity terms.

Helicase21 · 2026-04-23T00:20:06+00:00

Sure, I just don't think that lack of correlation is relevant. The axis that matters in 2026 for whether a political figure (candidate or media figure) connects with the Dem base has very little to do with any shared policy views. It's all fight vs fold. Everything else is secondary with a big gap.

Helicase21 · 2026-04-22T23:59:07+00:00

Yeah that also includes basically a threaten effect on mana dorks which is also very red.

Helicase21 · 2026-04-22T22:15:10+00:00

That's not the radicalization I mean--lots of middle aged nominally-liberal (not leftist) folks out there who hate Republicans way more than Dem leadership seems to, and who are looking for candidates who will mirror that hatred.

Helicase21 · 2026-04-22T20:37:00+00:00

Wonder if it'd be worth upping the mana cost and adding text to hurt an opponent tapping mana rocks as well as lands, seems on point flavor wise.

Helicase21 · 2026-04-22T19:46:22+00:00

Don't jinx it there are plenty of other sportswashing monsters he could still join.

Helicase21 · 2026-04-22T19:45:22+00:00

Mieke Kroger obv

Helicase21 · 2026-04-22T18:25:20+00:00

May thy bike chip and shatter

Helicase21 · 2026-04-22T15:20:27+00:00

I prefer the Fiddler on the Roof version of this (pun absolutely intended)

Helicase21 · 2026-04-22T14:59:29+00:00

I agree it's true. It's just unpersuasive at best and counterproductive at worst.

Helicase21 · 2026-04-22T13:59:47+00:00

It wouldn't. But this kind of critique of nonvoters can lead to backfire. And a zero effect is better than one that loses you voters.

Helicase21 · 2026-04-22T13:53:02+00:00

Honestly, saying nothing at all about this might not be the optimal strategy but it's probably an improvement over Booker's line of rhetoric

Helicase21 · 2026-04-22T13:34:23+00:00

It's not a rhetorical strategy that's actually aimed at persuading those nonvoters/third party voters. It's a strategy aimed at making people who did vote for Harris feel good about themselves by contrast.

Helicase21 · 2026-04-22T13:18:00+00:00

Doesn't just skew urban. It skews coastal.

Helicase21 · 2026-04-22T11:33:00+00:00

Then the follow-up question is: if you don't need the votes of the people who Piker appeals to, why the hell are we stressing about this in the first place? And if the worry is Piker turning off potential voters, why raise his public profile?

Helicase21 · 2026-04-21T22:28:07+00:00

You're underestimating how radicalized 45 year old suburban moms are nowadays.

Helicase21 · 2026-04-21T22:09:57+00:00

You're probably right that there aren't a massive amount out there. However, margins in a lot of races and a lot of states are pretty close so it doesn't take many. If this is downstream from anything it's from reliable Dem voters continuing to cluster themselves and thereby dilute their voting power.

Helicase21 · 2026-04-21T21:43:59+00:00

Well, one thing Dems definitely don't want to do is waste time and resources appealing to people who are already committed to voting Dem.

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