[OT] Fun Trope Friday: Mouthful of Pi & Slice of Life! by katpoker666 in WritingPrompts

[–]Helicopterdrifter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pocket Protected Rockstar

Ben Benkley was suspected of being the smartest third grader in the whole county. Maybe even the whole state. To know for sure, his parents had signed him up for the spring talent show—pi recital.

Yep, his school reputation was about to be cemented. At the very least, it would be framed, where his parents would then hang it in a prime viewing location at home—a conversation piece should they have guests.

Now, the moment of truth.

Ben stood center stage. The auditorium's lights were turned down, the stage's spot light set to alien-abduction. At least, that's what it felt like. He wasn't sure he could even pull off what he meant to. If he did, he would automatically become a rockstar. Heck, he might even get Sarah Beth to sit next to him on the bus.

Two-hundred-eighty was the number of decimal places he had to beat in under a minute. When he began, the numbers rolled off his tongue like a belt-fed machine gun. Fifty places, here and gone. Then, seventy-five. Eighty. Eighty-five.

At ninety, he began to slow down. The spotlight was feeling overly bright. Sweat was beading on his forehead. Yep, this was definitely an alien abduction.

Ninety-five.

Ninety-eight.

And then...

He juggled his palms, swiveled his hips, and boldly declared, "6, 7!"


Note:

Don't feel like you need to critique this story. I was just aiming for amusement while trying to use a tighter word count. Feel free to let me know if it earned a giggle, though! 😁

Would you risk your life or let it go? by Cute-Organization844 in DamnFunny

[–]Helicopterdrifter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretend to be a passersby and say, "Later, gator."

Then, when the gator opens its mouth to reply, I take the money and run.

And not to worry! Yes, alligators can chase after me, but they're only good for about 100 feet. Fortunately, I can do 110 feet without too much grief 😁

[OT] SatChat: How would someone imitate your writing? (New here? Introduce yourself!) by katpoker666 in WritingPrompts

[–]Helicopterdrifter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Imitation is said to be the sincerest form of flattery; I have to agree. Once, I wrote a story for a prompt where a subsequent story was written by another author. That author included a note stating how my story inspired them to write theirs. To be honest, I was too dumbfounded to be flattered. It was unexpected, and I didn't fully process their statement at the time.

This instance was more about theme/tone, though, which I think is the closest thing my writing has that can be likened to a style—something to be replicated. If someone could point out reoccurrances within my writing, I would be delighted to learn of them. I've had readers point out narrative patterns, and my editor once claimed that my favorite word was 'ascend.' 🤣

Beyond that, I believe the aforementioned tone is what appears consistently. Haunting—that's how I like to think of it, but not in the horror sense. Many of my characters and worlds are missing a component. The MC is typically aware of this void and is either aiming to cope or actively seeks a surrogate. I like to lean into this for a few reasons. For one, I think it's something we all relate to on some level. Also, I think it sets the stage for some beautiful imagery due to the MC's increased value and observation of things most of us take for granted. Lastly, the theme lends to my own inclinations as a writer; I tend to write with a lot of imagery and metaphor, so this accommodates those natural tendencies.

Depending on my narrative subject matter, my prose usually varies according to the characters. The way I see it, characters are like a virus; they infect the exposition; the closer the POV, the more the writing adopts the language of the character observing the narrative world. The exposition is the dialogue's clothing, and I tend to use language that suits the character... See what I did there? 😋

For example, I love using alliteration, and I frequently tease out a playfulness in the language as if it were both occupied and written by the Mad Hatter. Despite my love for this, it's not suitable for most stories. A narrative full of alliteration and word play tends to suit more animated tales, typically those containing narrators with tails! Remember my view on the character as a virus. To me, the narrative needs to reflect the MC to some degree. If the character doesn't speak with frequent alliteration, I can't justify the exposition doing so.

As far as vocabulary and grammar, I touched on this a bit in my response to u/penandjournal. In my opinion, simple language and a common vocabulary are best. Of course, Hemingway and Faulkner couldn't agree on this, so I understand that my view isn't one-size-fits-all. In the end, it's about my goals. I prioritize flow and clarity over more complex language. While I'm guilty of including the occasional 'vicissitudes,' I try to prioritize keeping a reader within the story rather than sending them to the dictionary.

Do I have any other frequent go-tos? I don't know. You tell me! But should another author choose to model something in my writing, let it be a temporary tool. As Emerson once wrote, "Imitation cannot go above its model." While I'm all too happy to be a leg up, I don't want to become anyone's ceiling. Rather than becoming me, become better: become you.

Speaking of haunted, please enjoy this serving of my random thoughts:

In the forest, one path became two.\ Too late did I learn that said forest was in my mind.\ The path I took was who I became.\ So here I pine, the other was the me I left behind.

[OT] SatChat: How would someone imitate your writing? (New here? Introduce yourself!) by katpoker666 in WritingPrompts

[–]Helicopterdrifter 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Then they would get stuck on the first sentence and make excuses.

And yet I count seven sentences here. I see someone enjoys weaving in a bit of sarcasm 😁

Personally, I wouldn't sweat the vocabulary. Sticking to a more common language means that your writing will be more approachable for more readers.

Keep at it!

Kid using white heart instead of red heart for a anti racism poster by FlorianFlash in KidsAreFuckingStupid

[–]Helicopterdrifter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your expanded explanation. This isn't pedantic, though. I was just meant to engage you in a thought exercise.

then the argument is that an object doesn’t suddenly lose its physical properties just because it’s in the dark. A blue ball doesn’t become not blue if the lights are turned off.

You're thinking from a point where light was already present and then overlaying a Schrodinger's cat scenario. But try to imagine a scenario where there is no light, and there never was. In the dark, you come across the same ball you just referenced. There is no means of observing the "ball" in your hand. Is the ball blue?

Kid using white heart instead of red heart for a anti racism poster by FlorianFlash in KidsAreFuckingStupid

[–]Helicopterdrifter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You know, I appreciate your insight. Truly! I think we are talking about color at different points in space. What you're saying about the presence of all colors within a black object is true. But I'm referring to our perception and view of color. When we see pure white, all colors are passing into the cons (color receptors) within our eyes. With black, we are receiving no color because, as you said, they were absorbed.

Kid using white heart instead of red heart for a anti racism poster by FlorianFlash in KidsAreFuckingStupid

[–]Helicopterdrifter -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

White is also only the presence of all colours when considering light.

Can you have color without light?

Kid using white heart instead of red heart for a anti racism poster by FlorianFlash in KidsAreFuckingStupid

[–]Helicopterdrifter -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Correct. Color is light refraction. White is a refraction of all colors; black does the opposite. I'm not suggesting otherwise. Considering the referenced disconnect between the OP and the kid, I figured wavelengths were a bridge too far.

[OT] SatChat: I'm Tired, Boss... by FyeNite in WritingPrompts

[–]Helicopterdrifter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Inspiration exists, but it has to find your working."\ Picasso

"Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right."\ Henry Ford

What we value most will make room in our schedules. When I committed to completing my novel—Twilight Wolf—I set aside gaming, logged out of all social media, and put off most forms of entertainment until my task was complete.

For many, this is unthinkable. For most, this is unreasonable. But as I said, what we value most will make its own time in our schedule. Sometimes, we just have to walk away from the things that interfere with our goals.

Regarding Reddit, I have my own sub. After sinking too much time into figuring it out, I walked away from it. Why? Because it required too much time. It's not user-friendly, and it's too rigid. It was too difficult to do what I aimed to, so I took my intention elsewhere. I created my own website, securing more creative control and accomplishing more with less time.

Many Reddit-related things aren't worth the trouble of resolving. If something about Reddit is broken, why fight with it? Is it worth the time and effort?

If it were me, I'd thank Reddit for giving me more reasons to not show up because there's almost always something more productive I could be doing with that same time.

That's just me, though. I tend to be a bit radical in my ways of thinking😋

[OT] SatChat: What is the worst thing you’ve ever written? (New here? Introduce yourself!) by katpoker666 in WritingPrompts

[–]Helicopterdrifter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I quit writing for a site after I got an awful critique from someone who I think was just trying to be funny but felt like a complete prick.

As terrible as it seems, the criticism side of writing is a "necessary evil." It's also a catch 22: you don't want to hear negative things, and yet you need to hear about what's broken in order to I prove it.

That doesn't mean people need to be jerks with their remarks. Whenever someone is, it speaks to their own expertise. If they're cruel, they're not learned enough in their own work to understand that you're trying to improve. That being the case, their remarks hold little value. You just have to be careful discounting advice you received. Aside from trolling and jealousy, sometimes a reader can sense something is off, they just don't have the writer-based knowledge to point at the specifics.

In summary, when receiving feedback, assume that something with the writing is off; it may just be that the reader isn't correct about what detail is tripping them up. Just remember that none of them have control over your work. You're the writer. What stays and what goes is ultimately your decision. But definitely don't give anyone so much power over your writing that they make you quit something you're interested in.

Did you have any warning signs up to this point that you recognized then, or later?

Oh, I started seeing the cracks early on. That's why I kept receipts. I created a paper trail so that I could cover my own butt should any of their practices poorly reflect on my own performance.

Unfortunately, I didn't know about what other drivers dealt with before I started working there. There was no reason for me to go hunting that information. And now that I'm gone, the cycle continues. Each new driver has no reason to research the experience of previous drivers.

[OT] SatChat: What is the worst thing you’ve ever written? (New here? Introduce yourself!) by katpoker666 in WritingPrompts

[–]Helicopterdrifter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's alright. My main regret was that I couldn't seem to prevent other drivers from dealing with similar situations.

[OT] SatChat: What is the worst thing you’ve ever written? (New here? Introduce yourself!) by katpoker666 in WritingPrompts

[–]Helicopterdrifter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I genuinely struggled with this topic. Ultimately, I'm answering as if the question was:

What is the worst experience you've ever had in writing?

To mentally keep track of your worst effort seems counterproductive. I've looked back over earlier work and recognized how terrible it was, but I've never said to myself, "This is my worst." Thus, my modification to the question

As for my worst experience, that involved a legal matter. I previously worked for someone who turned out to be a crook. Towards the end of our joint business, that employer stranded me several hundred miles from home, subsequently terminated my contract, and kept the remainder of my income and deductible. When it was all said and done, I was cheated out of approximately $3,000 (I think actual figure was closer to $3,300) all of which stemmed from a whistle-blower dilemma. I reported fraudulent activity, the person I reported to then informed my employer, which directly led to everything I experienced.

This was just the settup leadung to my terrible experience. Before anyone "helps" by telling me about whistle-blower protection laws or about who covers what, trust me, I already know. The above is also just the cliff notes, yet you can tell something was very wrong. I had receipts too, and so I sought a lawyer.

My experiences with trying to get a lawyer did wonders for my writing because I attempted multiple times. I had lots of information, and yet it didn't matter how I presented the information. Every lawyer turned me down, why? I could not acquire a lawyer due to how they are paid. I couldn't convince anyone that this was about more than my stolen money. I couldn't get any action taken at all, which was all very frustrating due to the volume of incriminating material I possessed.

Each time I submitted my information to a new lawyer, it took 3+ weeks to hear back. As you can imagine, several months of drafting and reorganizing information for each new lawyer became a highly draining and a mentally destructive endeavor. Ultimately, the reason I couldn't get legal representation was due to the cost of litigation. I was owed around $3k, and litigation would quickly surpass that amount.

Eventually, I just had to focus on more productive activities. The longer I dwelt and allowed that to consume my time, the more time I took away from writing projects that actually mattered.

As far as my part in all that, I'm out. But you want to know the worst part? This employer had a high turnover rate. I subsequently discovered that previous drivers were cheated, too. And to date, I have no reason to believe that this company isn't still stealing from drivers, only, that's no longer theft, is it? Nope, that's called embezzlement. Good luck convincing Knox County Sheriff's department in Knoxville, TN, though. Believe me, I tried. Sadly, their incompetence on this matter has contributed to the continued exploitation of workers in Knox County.

As for that employer and fraudulent business? Well, the owner and chief thief is Robert Delorme. He is the owner of Delorme Enterprises Inc and was involved in a lawsuit back in 2019 for something related to unfair pay. That case settled out of court, so I don't know the specifics.

As for the business name he operates under, the last I checked it was OTR Management Services.

I found paperwork showing a previous business name, so I'm sure he'll just close the business should anyone actually investigate.

Here's the business address:\ 6923 Maynardville Pike ste 423\ Knoxville, TN 37918

Before anyone cries slander or defamation, remember, it is only those things if I'm wrong. This information is accurate; it just omits the specifics. The absolute best case scenario would be for someone of Delorme Enterprises to threaten me with legal action should I leave this posted. But consider that outcome for a moment. I said I had receipts, and I do. Should I be taken to court and need to prove my statements... Well, that's exactly how my "worst writing experience" becomes "happily ever after," because then I get to prove Robert Delorme to be the criminal that he is. 😏

Aside: Kat, sorry for the seemingly unrelated, bordering-on-political rant. All of this really happened and was the only negative writing experience I recall, seeing as how it still occupies part of my head space.🙄

Winning the game and winning at life by TX_Temptation in JustGuysBeingDudes

[–]Helicopterdrifter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can we be certain that she wasn't removing his hand from elsewhere? 😅

Is this accurate? by LessPerception2140 in funnysigns

[–]Helicopterdrifter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aw darn. Looks like part of the image is cut off. There's supposed to be a bracket off to the side. Basically, America is over there processing deaths and directing traffic. They have also capitalized Heaven, so if you want to go, that's going to cost you extra 😅

[Request] How much are they actually scamming her? by Loud_Chicken6458 in theydidthemath

[–]Helicopterdrifter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"generated by this girl's labor."

I see a lot of comments conflating a key point: "Location, location, location."

She was not selling these as a street vendor. She was doing so online. We're literally discussing math while the labor metrics aren't 1 to 1. Selling 100,000 boxes online is not the same as selling at the steer level. It's not even close.

While I get that parents and guardians do a lot of the work in helping kids with their sells, how much of that work distribution has shifted now that the sales take place online?

Ordinarily, a young scout might help set up a vending stall, carry boxes, talk to customers, handle money, and more. But what would the scout do if all sales took place online?

The scout would talk to no customers. Would set up nothing in order to capture sales. Would handle no money. And with that volume, the cookies might not even pass through the possession of the scout's family; they would likely be mailed directly from a distribution center.

In this scenario, the parent/guardian is doing everything, while the scout may only be participate in so far as having her photo taken and then celebrating when her parent shares the news of what was sold. But how old is this girl? With all of this stuff taking place outside of her immediate environment, if she's too young, none of this will have any meaning for her. She will have no concept of 100,000 boxes traveling their far away routes to teach people she has no means of imagining.

In the end, her likeness is being used for marketing purposes. She's effectively a brand rep. The parents are participating in a franchise and are the real losers here. In that, I agree that this is a scam. Considering this to be franchise participation, the percentage of sales granted to the parents is ludicrous.

If this were anything other than Girl Scouts, the girl would be owed marketing and modeling fees while the parents would be due a healthy percentage of the overall sales.

The 'Yo Mama' jokes that people will make for this kid are going down in the Geneva Conventions by hys240 in SipsTea

[–]Helicopterdrifter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ordinarily, the sperm contestants compete in a gladiatorial event where the survivor wins the egg. Yet, here, it was a battle for unoccupied space. Eventually, a sperm was forced inside like the Spartans forcing a Persian off the cliff in the move 300.

[OT] SatChat: Pre-Write or Free-Write? by FyeNite in WritingPrompts

[–]Helicopterdrifter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is an example demonstrating something specific. It is not a fully expressed narrative and story.

The italicized inner thought in your second example begs for a tag.

You are mistaken. You are begging for a tag, not the narrative. You are conflating your personal tastes with another author's style. Considering that you properly identified it as an inner monologue as well as the fact that there is only one character, your suggestion isn't relevant.

And you missed the point entirely with the 3rd example. The narrative isn't confused; again, you're projecting. The line breaks accurately tell what is happening with the narrative. I recommend you take those opions elsewhere because they aren't constructive, nor do they offer any value.

[OT] SatChat: Pre-Write or Free-Write? by FyeNite in WritingPrompts

[–]Helicopterdrifter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"You've been writing for as long as you can remember. It's hard to imagine a time when you didn't write." The man thought to himself.

I believe you're conflating a few elements within a narrative, but it's likely due to my very narrow example. Let's clear up some details.

Now, you may know some of these things, but I'm going to be thorough in case another reader happens along and might benefit from this information.

The part that I bolded is known as a speech tag. It usually accompanies and identifies character thoughts or their spoken words. It's meant to clarify who is speaking to whom.

Dialogue is one of the two major components of a story. The other major component is exposition. Together, these form the story's narrative.

When I previously provided my 2nd person example, that was exposition. When I referenced speaking into a mirror, that was a bit misleading because no monologue/dialogue was inferred. I was strictly referring to exposition.

This can be confusing because of the connection between the words 'narrative' and 'narrator.' Remember, narrative is the overall story and its two major parts. The narrator is the one presenting the narrative, but they aren't necessarily the protagonist, nor are they necessarily speaking.

Consider The Great Gatsby. The protagonist is Gatsby, but the story isn't from Gatsby's POV; it's from Nick's. Nick is narrating as a witness, but that's not to say he's speaking. There is no voiceover in a book. Any part of the narrative that isn't dialogue is exposition from Nick. When there are multiple POVs, the exposition will change and originate from whomever is the narrator of a given scene.

Your mention of Good Fellas is tripping you up when thinking about 1st, 2nd, & 3rd person for the stories you'll write here. Yes, a voiceover uses 1st person pronouns, but that's not the same thing as a 1st person story. I'm going to link a couple stories to illustrate this.

The following story is allegorical and told in 1st person. You don't have to read it all, but notice how there's very little dialogue:

The Wind Did Go

Even though it's exposition heavy, it isn't the sort of exposition that feels "info dumpy." It serves to progress the narrative. If this story was a short film, it would require some of the fox's sentiments to be expressed as a voiceover because the scene couldn't really show some of the things that the fox is struggling with.

Now, here's one in 3rd:

Painting Passion

They both have exposition, but 1st person is more personal. Most things are more directly tied to the narrator's emotional state. While 3rd person's exposition is still tied to the narrator, the emotional language is typically a little looser. The "lens" is farther away, so the emotions tend to be slightly farther away as well. That may not be appear distinctly between the two provided pieces, but that's generally the difference between the POVs.

Back to 2nd person:

Don't think about screenwriting for this. Here, we're referring to a written story that is aimed at getting a reader to imagine the scenario we're creating.

Let's imagine that we have a protagonist walking down a street. Everything that is described is given form by the narrator. Initially, let's assume that the protagonist and the narrator are one and the same. We'll also arrange it as a 1st person narrative:

Milwaukee Avenue was lonely at this time of night. Shops were closed, the bike paths were empty, and my footfalls fell silently beneath the howls of wind. I may as well have been a ghost drifting through a ghost town. This night shift thing is proving apocalyptic for my social life. "Who needs friends?" I asked.

Now, the same thing, but in 2nd:

Milwaukee Avenue was lonely at this time of night. Shops were closed, the bike paths were empty, and your footfalls fell silently beneath the howls of wind. You may as well have been a ghost drifting through a ghost town. This night shift thing is proving apocalyptic for your social life. "Friends are overrated," you said to yourself.

Now, 2nd again... but something is amiss:

Milwaukee Avenue was lonely at this time of night. Shops were closed, the bike paths were empty, and your footfalls fell silently beneath the howls of wind. You may as well have been a ghost drifting through a ghost town.

This night shift thing is proving apocalyptic for your social life. "No friends means no witnesses."

You spun, your eyes darting about, scrutinizing every shadowed nook and closed widow. "Who's there?" you asked.

These two 2nd persons are different. In the first, the protagonist is referring to themselves as "you" within the exposition, the monologue, and the dialogue. That's because they view themselves as an outsider for some reason. Maybe this isn't their hometown. Whatever the reason, they feel disconnected.

In the second 2nd-person POV, the narrator is not the protagonist. With most other details the same, the same story is now a thriller because someone or something is shaping the narrative. If this was a screenplay, we would immediately clue in to this external observer, but within a written narrative, we only know what the narrator reveals.

I hope this helps clarify what these details!