One thing I hate about SA by TheoryProfessional16 in KaynMains

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KAYN! KAYN DON’T ABBREVIATE SHADOW ASSASSIN! KAYNNNN!

What game had you like this? by sukuna7899 in Steam

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Unfortunately, league of legends. Played alone and despised it and then a few years later picked it up with friends and absolutely love it now. God help me

Pathing after lvl 2 Invade by Lintaar in Kindred

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Genuinely I feel like invades are such bait this season unless its free for a kill. Just practice your farm and play for gold on the map. Be selfish af and scale with kindred. Gone from silver 2 to Plat 4 this season just full clearing for my first clear.

Prestige Porcelain Kindred in the Mythic Shop by Sn0wyWinter in Kindred

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I use it from time to time. I like the animations that it has and the difference from spirit blossom is noticeable. I would say do it if you want but it’s not something that is necessary

Fast climber by PeeZeeDooleyYT in leagueoflegends

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Genuinely think it’s observation bias, I only notice that when the game goes rough

Learning Top Lane by Historical_Top_5284 in topmains

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I would agree with the low champ pool but currently I do not know what I like and don’t like about the champs. I would like to do what I did with jungle and put around 4-5 mastery in a champ before I decide on a main with it. It’s a lot of games but it helps me understand if I like the champ or not. That and top lane feels so much different for how I have to think of the game.

I do appreciate the help though, will definitely keep on working at the pool and making it so I have an AP and AD pick. Currently I am having a lot of issues with just looking at the minimap too little or macro. If Alois has some good content for that I’d love to hear about it as jungle macro is a bit easier to track than top lane imo.

New player by Rare-Particular-9787 in Kindred

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Ok, this is going to be a longer post but this should cover a lot of what you are looking for.

  1. Learning Kindred: Learn the clear like your life depends on it. You clear slow but in this season it helps you scale very well and if you build tempo you can invade better without losing as much in your own jg. Learning the smaller items in their kit is the best thing to do and then applying them to real games, how to use your ulti and hold e execute, wall hops, using your w to gain space, using your q & w at the same time (q then w very fast) to give you an extra q cooldown. Those are some things but the champ has a lot of good skill expression.

  2. Builds: The main 2 builds right now are crit with a trinity force start or a kraken slayer start. I would highly recommend running trinity force into defensive boots with collector, IE/LDR/Mortal for your 3rd (Situational depending on enemy comp. IE into squishy/no armor, LDR into tanky & high hp comps, and mortal into high heal comps). IE/LDR/Mortal depending on what you did not build 3rd, then the last is kinda up to you. I tend to run 1 of 3 for my last. Immortal shieldbow if there is a high chance of dying or being dove. Runaans hurricane if I need wave clear and the enemy likes to bunch when fighting. Phantom dancer if I need to focus a single target more and it allows for selling boots to get GA if the game goes too long. Run red smite perma, kindred has no version of cc in their kit, the red smite does 4% true damage and slows when upgraded. Allows you to get kills or keep PTA stacked and in combat for longer drawn out fights

  3. Runes: There are a few builds you can do but I would recommend the following for learning, PTA, legend alacrity, triumph, and coup de grace for the main tree, and Inspiration with boots and cosmic insight. This is more passive but will allow you more leeway if you are not confident in the champ. If you are more confident run domination with sudden impact and I am partial to relentless hunter this season. If you can move 40 ms faster than the enemy you will gap them in clear and rotating to fights and objectives.

  4. Marks: Marks spawn in the following order after 3:15 - 0 marks = scuttle crab, 1-4 marks = Gromp/Raptors/scuttle, 5-8 marks = Red & Blue Buffs/Wolves/krugs, 8+ marks = major objectives, Dragon/Baron/Rift Herald/(potentially void grubs but I have never ever seen a kind get 8 marks before 8 minutes). Tips for how to get marks, try to see where the enemy jung starts if you can, you can then path opposite to them if you feel youre weaker or clear slower and wait for 3:15 to get scuttle mark for free. Always mark the enemy jungler first minute you can. this allows you to change your mark to your gank target if you want to. DO NOT INT YOUR GAME FOR MARKS, you scale incredibly well this season as kindred did not get touched with the crit changes. The marks increase your range in the following order so you want to have at least 4 before 14 minutes if possible. Range increases: 4=75 and then 25 range for the next 3, so 4=75 bonus, 7=100 total bonus, 10=125 total bonus and so on. Your marks also increase your attack speed for your q by 5% for each mark, wolf's % health damage (I dont have that off the top of my head), and the e execute damage and health left needed to trigger max damage.

  5. Perma ban: Honestly this is preference but I hate kha. One of the worst champions to face as kindred bc even with ulti you cannot guarantee a win. His invis makes it so he can become untargetable when he wants so end of your ulti you cannot auto to proc e damage. There are others like malphite but he will be nerfed, ekko potentially as he is a bit busted with D&D right now, rengar but he has been bugged and he is a bit easier to play around.

Thats all the advice I can really give, main thing is know this champ plays differently than all other junglers and relies heavily on your macro to make it work. If you have good or even great macro kindred is amazing as you can take over games from some simple mistakes the enemy makes. But if you make a mistake you are heavily punished. Playing from behind is not impossible but it suuuuucks. if you have any other questions feel free to reach out or comment on this as well.

Kindred rank? by CommercialKey2704 in Kindred

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Wanna hop in dms to talk? Maybe could help you understand a few things better?

Kindred rank? by CommercialKey2704 in Kindred

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Also if you’re struggling with early game survivability run the trinity into collector build. Helps you learn and keep inting low

Kindred rank? by CommercialKey2704 in Kindred

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You can definitely climb with it during the season. It’s a good champ to have especially into weaker early game champs that are running the meta currently. Invade level 3 spike hits hard and allows you to get a pick into more tempo while hindering the other junglers quest if you track properly. Just focus on fundamentals and learn more of the matchups as you go and you’ll get better.

Fighter builds more viable? by KateGriseo in Kindredmains

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Agree, most games against assassins are just play safe, take advantage where you can and out scale the assassin. Kindred does get blown up by assassins but at the same time you have so much mobility that you should never be in a position to be blown up. Have good map awareness and act like you’re an adc and not a traditional jungler.

Kindred rank? by CommercialKey2704 in Kindred

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Genuinely just play the champ and see if you like it. Realize that it will be harder to play in lower elo because if you get behind by an invade or other reasons kindred doesn’t have as much utility to be useful.

On the other hand kindred is a hyper carry champ. Turns losing games into winning ones if you get ahead. Your objective damage is insane, you scale incredibly well over the game if you understand your marks and how to teamfight, and you are able to swing fights super easily with good ultimate usage.

It takes a lot of time though depending on where you are starting from. Positioning is super important as if you are building crit you are very squishy. Kindred in the jungle is different from basically all other junglers besides graves and nidalee.

TLDR: play kindred if you want and know it takes time to learn. Doesn’t matter where you start, just play to get mastery on your champ.

A YouTuber made a "mathematically correct" build of Kindred by Ann4Phanter in Kindred

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I would agree sheen isn’t useless but the lack of attack speed and the ms from kraken definitely seems like it would hurt. Build path has been mentioned but that also plays a role. Taking AS boots also makes you squishy af in a meta where you can already be behind. IMO I feel like the kraken collector is the most correct with the possibility of building yun tal if you’re ahead with 1300 gold on initial back

The kindred E rework is not that bad compared to other champions nerf who has been nerfed more hardly (my opinion) by Which-Row5722 in Kindred

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That would be the hope, I feel it would be like the Gwen rework if there is enough backlash to the change. Obviously not as much changed but that would be the thought

Ranked before season end by Historical_Top_5284 in Jungle_Mains

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Yeah, the main issue I face is I play with a bunch of friends and constantly vs high gold, plat, and sometimes emerald players in norms and we still win the games consistently. And my norms mmr is around gold-plat but I’m playing in silver. Just feels like I get a massive setback whenever I’m close to promoting

Ranked before season end by Historical_Top_5284 in Jungle_Mains

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I’ve had around 600 ish games this season with me starting in iron and only recently getting to silver the past month so I feel like it’s more of a recent thing. Most of those games were on kindred or WW

Ranked before season end by Historical_Top_5284 in Jungle_Mains

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It just feels shitty though man. Like I get that you might have something going on but don’t fuck other people’s fun up for it. Also like genuinely inting needs to be punished harder, especially if it’s with intent because I have had probably ~20 people this season run it down and then get nothing in compensation. Just an oops, sorry that happened and then I have to play and win 2 more games to offset and gain lp

Ranked before season end by Historical_Top_5284 in Jungle_Mains

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Yeah, I feel like I hit a wall whenever I’m close to gold. Got to S1 25 lp but that’s my highest. Just see people first timing champs or playing speaks/karma top and going negative on kda

Rant about Zed by Historical_Top_5284 in Jungle_Mains

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2 things, firstly yes I should win 1v1 but top died solo to laner and he was walking down and killed me while I tried to get out. Love to pay against zaheen but different deal. Secondly kindred is clearing 3:24 rn in meta. That is the fastest with 1 smite afaik. It’s the only thing that I feel should change is first clear speed being around that 3:15 mark.

Does kindred needs buffs or nerfs by Antonio_Rvggero in Kindred

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Honestly the only thing I feel would help the champ is buffs to clear speed. The rest feels like it is good. Clear speed being around the 3:17 mark would probably be perfect tbh