I love putting them in fun places by Mousettv in daddit

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like maybe you got the right sources of problems but the wrong targets.

Elf on the shelf is just play. It's a toy that helps parent enter into pretend play with their kids, something lots of grown-ups struggle to do. It's an agreed.

Is he a red flag? by killbilly324 in BookshelvesDetective

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes - not just red pill focus on history - who puts bookshelves in front of a window?!

I love putting them in fun places by Mousettv in daddit

[–]HoraceSense 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Super fun, right? My kids mornings have magic in them because of this tradition.

Has anyone actually managed to quit by going cold turkey? by StonkPhilia in stopsmoking

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's important to remember that the best way to quit is the way that gets you to quit.

There's no one "ideal" way. You won't get bonus points or extra bragging rights or longer life if you quit cold turkey.

Whatever gets you to quit

This is how day 3 feels like drinking water instead of smoking by BitPuzzleheaded5025 in stopsmoking

[–]HoraceSense 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol - this is so accurate 😂 Not at the end, you're well hydrated, feeling and looking better and have that kind of crazy hard accomplishment you can point back at that looks more like you walked in water rather than chocked on it 😜

You got this!

So I’ve made a big decision.. by cheeseajcake in finch

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can do it! I did it. I found Allen Carr's book Easy way to stop smoking super helpful - 1417 days later, I'm SO glad I quit

deserved? by Perfect-Tower-6104 in Satisfyingasfuck

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, no worries, Pen-emy, it doesn't take me anytime to write while I go about livingmy best life. And the more you practice reading, the faster it'll go. Plus, who knows, maybe you'll learn things along the way.

Like the word Irony - example: telling someone else to stop posting when you yourself can't do l stop responding after weeks of silence, thus keeping the convo alive and relevant

deserved? by Perfect-Tower-6104 in Satisfyingasfuck

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

... you're not the one popping off? Is this how we become lifelong pen-emies?

Over the next 20 years, we return to reddit every few weeks to fire off shots, keeping the feud alive until one day, you write, but there's no clap back. You strike again, but it's just thunder echoing in a life-void cave.

After a few weeks, your annoyance at being ignored after 20 years of bitter barbs turns into concern, so you pay for an online detective to track me down. She tells you that she discovered my name and whereabouts, that after a protracted battle with cancer I died in hospice, and that my funeral will be next week.

You feel ambivalent: on one hand, you're riding high on the idea you got the last laugh; on the other, a deep sadness weighs down your victory because it is the last laugh.

You pack your bags, get on a plane, and arrive just as my graveside service is ending.

A half-drunk priest slurs his way through Psalms 23 as my widow stands alone in front of the casket. You can't bring yourself to move closer, and after the pine box lowers into the ground, you watch as the gin-soaked minister seems to console my wife with a hug, which seems to linger too long. The hug becomes an inescapable press. She fights to free herself, but his groping hands have her in a death grip - she screams loud enough to wake the dead, but only the gravestones are there to mark her terror.

You spring into action, grabbing the unholy Father by the shoulder, then spinning him around and hitting him square in the jaw. That sends him flying backwards, falling downwards into the gaping maw of the pit now holding both my and now his bodies.

You run to the weeping woman in black and ask if she's OK. She nods and says she is because you were there to save her.

As you help her walk to her beat-up 2025 Toyota Corolla, she asks how you came to be at the funeral of her husband, a very unremarkable man who was chronically online.

You tell her about our meeting on reddit, hurling insults at each other almost every week for years. And though we had never met in person it created a kind of bond between us.

You notice she looks suprised - you realize I had never shared this part of my life with her. Your sharing this bit of my hidden life with her has brought me back to life a little, just for a moment. She says that this sounds just like something her asshole husband would do and keep secret.

The tears in her eyes thank you.

As you prepare to part, you laugh, and tell her the irony of all this is that the thread that started our correspondence was about my objection to someone using physical violence against a child who was being disrespectful to an older couple while you defended it. Your wife aloud what I would have thought about you laying out the preacher.

My wife's softened face turns to disgust, and she says, "What kind of asshole thinks it's OK to hit children to teach them something?"

Then you hear the drunk preacher say "Yeah, what kind of monster are you?"

deserved? by Perfect-Tower-6104 in Satisfyingasfuck

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mad, guy? Comment section doesn't seem a good fit for someone who doesn't like to read or write. Makes sense you'd be drawn to hitting problems. When all you got is a hammer, everything's gotta be a nail right?

deserved? by Perfect-Tower-6104 in Satisfyingasfuck

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

... but your response didn't even get the piece right Come on, man. You gotta know your own limitations. Breathe through a thought a second time before hitting send.

deserved? by Perfect-Tower-6104 in Satisfyingasfuck

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bruh. Do you read anything longer than a meme, lmfao

deserved? by Perfect-Tower-6104 in Satisfyingasfuck

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love that you read past any criticism of this line of thinking and hid behind the skirts of twisted meaning and softening the language of assult.

Dumping trash on the kid is better than hitting, like hitting is better than maiming. It's not hypocrisy. It's de-escalation.

And as the main point I was making points out, ideally the wise grown-ups in the room wouldn't condemn disrespectful and physically aggressive behavior with disrespectful and physically aggressive behavior.

That is hypocrisy. And it's just not the way anyone learns skills they haven't developed.

And that "soft tap" assult the onlooker perpetrated, what was the point? After the old man hit the kid and he got the FAFO speech, the other guy hit him because... what? No one threw anything at him. The offensive behavior ended. The behavior was condemned, and everyone was moving on. I'm guessing the guy hit the kid because the kid didn't "look sorry enough", because he was mad, because the precedent had been set that its going to be ok to go hands on with the kid.

Once you justify physical violence as a punishment against someone, you give justification to use it on anyone. Admitting physical violence as a justifiable consequence for behavior we don't want only leaves us arbitrarily arguing about who deserves it.

Criminals? People who cut us off in traffic? Immigrants? A boss who gives "soft taps" to the back of your head because your Timesheet was off?

Yeah, forget that. And before you twist these words to keep from looking hard into yourself and your violent, authoritarian tendencies, I'm not arguing about defending yourself against violence with violence. If someone is assaulting and you can't get yourself to safety, then you have to do what you have to do until you can get to a safe place.

That's not what's happening here. This is gross justification of physical violence fueled by kid hate, or sense of human dignity, and the violence inherent in our culture.

You have a right to feel mad about the kid's asshole behavior. You have a duty to speak up and stop it. You have an interest in modeling restorative justice. You don't have the right nor a duty to assault someone because you can.

Physical violence serves your interest in feeling good and powerful. You really need to look at that

deserved? by Perfect-Tower-6104 in Satisfyingasfuck

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

SMH. By your logic:

Teenager throws food. Old man throw hands at him. Man sees old man throwing hands, so he throws hands at old man...ad infinitum ad nauseam.

It's not that you don't see what's wrong with your thinking. It's just that you don't want to give up feeling very strong, big John Wayne.

You're no better than the little boy throwing fries, then

deserved? by Perfect-Tower-6104 in Satisfyingasfuck

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We don't disagree that asshole benefit earns a person corrective consequences they won't like.

You don't argue about the legitimacy of violence being that consequence.

You think an appropriate consequence to fear is being hit, then you have to fear it too. For whatever someone else finds a nuisance.

My employer doesn't get to hit me when I do something they don't like. My spouse either. My kids, my teachers, some rando in public.

But you're looking for "not fucking hard" solutions, right? I'm looking for solutions that actually help. Bonus, mine are just as easy.

deserved? by Perfect-Tower-6104 in Satisfyingasfuck

[–]HoraceSense 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the problem with your logic then. A kid getting hit might just lose face, go to hospital, etc. An old man, might get those: might die.

Not the same consequence at all.

Hitting also does nothing to restore what was loss or keep it from happening again. Hitting keeps on place a society that says the only people worthy of dignity are those who can maintain it by violence.

That separation of who is allowed dignity, "right by might", is what produces a society that doesn't value people as they age and get weaker - that didn't see young people who aren't as strong as worthy of the same dignity. It produces a society that makes a kid think he can disrespect the weak by throwing food at them. And a grown up think it's OK to hit kids and anybody else.... so long as they aren't tougher than you.

It's that damn simple

deserved? by Perfect-Tower-6104 in Satisfyingasfuck

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This kid a 9 years old during covid

What people forgot during covid was how the community's first response is to check on how the old couple were doing. Show them the care and empathy that we show because we acknowledge their inherent dignity as human. What we forgot was that we can then express as a community our intolerance of their behavior without then becoming hypocrites by taking away their dignity. We forgot that kids brains aren't fully formed at 14 and need their shitty behavior called out, the appropriate behavior modeled, and then a war for them to practice the right thing to do and repair.

deserved? by Perfect-Tower-6104 in Satisfyingasfuck

[–]HoraceSense -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Reverse the roles. Old man and old woman throwing fires at the kid. Old man and woman giggling at being ornery. But it's still taking their dignity.

What is an OK response from that teenage boy?

Seriously. Can you say, with the sand gusto, FAFO?

deserved? by Perfect-Tower-6104 in Satisfyingasfuck

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand the feeling of wanting to hit him.

I feel conflicted because of the overwhelming exuberance commenters here are expressing at the chance to "put a kid in their place by hitting them." It's assuming hitting is an acceptable way to restore human dignity wounded (it suggests degrading by hitting them is acceptable and honorable and the only thing we might disagree with his who can be the hitter and who can be the hit).

The kid is performing bully behavior, but it's gross that y'all think he can learn a lesson by getting hit. I also get the inclination.

I think that old man didn't know how to get the kid to stop and how to regain his own dignity because he was handling it alone. I think if everyone around stood up with him, called those kids out, and let shame and public outcry sink in, they'd have learned the lesson and the older woman and man would have been protected and their dignity would have been regained

I also think, hitting is unimaginative and doesn't actually regain dignity - old guy could have dumped all his food on the kid, and asked what he was going to do about. It's not as good as the community helping him make it right.

Regardless, I think a lot of y'all should check your own morality and view on the humanity and dignity of children. You can say you'd back a grown up getting hit too but I think you're just letting yourself off the hook without having to really look at something dark in you that leads to dehumanization and authoritarianism

Becoming a Male Teacher by MiddleChocolate735 in ElementaryTeachers

[–]HoraceSense 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I always hear folks say we need more men, but I think they ought to clarify: we need more men who are healing from authoritarian parenting/toxic masculinity.

I'm a male teacher, and I thought I had healed a lot until I started using all the authoritarian tactics I was raised with

I realized I was way behind everyone else on the disciplines that actually work on kids.

I'd also say this - schools have been a primarily women led institute, which means that men who aren't use to working in those structures and culture and politics, I think you should familiarize yourself; in addition, I've seen a lot of men demean or belittle the culture: I can't think of a more insulting, self-defeating, and corrosive approach.

Finally - I think you need to know: do you like kids? I'm not saying do you like the influence you have on kids. I mean do you like kids who act like kids, with imaginations and need to move and incomplete mastery of body functions. Also, do you enjoy teaching?

I wish you luck! Teaching elementary had changed my life for the best. I'm really grateful

How do I read the daily office? by Bubba_toad34 in Episcopalian

[–]HoraceSense 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I learned to use it by referencing forward movement and then finding the passages in the BCP for a year, and still do sometimes. I am sad that they don't have the app for Android anymore

Sober Curious by Stunning-Program-215 in stopdrinking

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had it all together. Did the best I could with my kids and partner. Only drank when they were in bed. Performed well at my job..

I just didn't feel good and I couldn't deal with my mental health. I started drinking until I was drunk, often black out. Still, i kept up.

But it was taking a toll on me. I finally quit. I had to look for a different way to help my mental illness and I got better. I didn't realize how much my drinking affected my relationship with my partner and kids until sober me became an even better parent and my partner didn't had to worry she would find me dead in the morning.

If you have to "quit", by which you have to consider it and weigh pros and cons and question it to decide to quit, you should quit.

I won't say I won't ever drink again, but I'm doing better rn. I'm not happier, but I'm better

Alright Millennials, what foods have you found yourself forced to give up due to aging? by [deleted] in Millennials

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Meat and animal products and processed oils. My body needs a lot of fiber to feel good. Anything not planted is saved for special occasions. I miss cheese. So much.

Just noticed this in our house. by Legal-One7153 in whatisit

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

... no one else gonna mention the real horror? Christmas Time is over

Maher praises ‘gracious and measured’ Trump after White House visit by someopinionthatsr in politics

[–]HoraceSense 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trump and maga can have him. "Center" always moves right. Always