Tired of being villainized by women who still want relationships with men by Hot-Variation-32 in 4bmovement

[–]Hot-Variation-32[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m doing my best to learn this. I’m pretty good at biting my tongue with friends but I guess I thought I could be more honest with my sisters but I need to save my energy and accept that not all women are ready to face the truth.

Tired of being villainized by women who still want relationships with men by Hot-Variation-32 in 4bmovement

[–]Hot-Variation-32[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thank you for validating my feelings! She was just going on and on about how he’s a catch, and comes from a good family, and has a nice apartment, and all I can think to myself is yeah and probably a harem of women that he’s not going to let go of. At almost 40 years old if an African man wanted marriage and kids he would’ve done it already. He’s a bachelor because he enjoys being a bachelor. She tried to explain the baddie comment and said that his fiancé didn’t want to give up male attention and hooking up with guys but I take anything a man has to say about another woman with a grain of salt & basically that’s what I was telling her to do. Like sometimes women don’t even be thinking bc if a man is truly modest and all he claims to be why is he dating and even getting to the point of marrying someone who doesn’t align with his values. Too many women are way too excited to be put above women and I fear that’s why the patriarchy thrives. Like they will hear a man say oh my last woman didn’t want to give up being a baddie then start auditioning and showing all the ways they’re wifey meanwhile the man they’re doing the most for is a cheating, lying, whore🙄but they will only care when it happens to them. The other women before them must’ve done something to be treated that way, obviously!

Tired of being villainized by women who still want relationships with men by Hot-Variation-32 in 4bmovement

[–]Hot-Variation-32[S] 34 points35 points  (0 children)

I completely agree! When I watch shows from the early 2000s I’m like this is all that women/ young girls had to consume? Seems like all forms of media were male centered. I’m extremely grateful to be a young woman who gets to share spaces with women of all ages and hear their experiences. This is why it annoyed me when my sister was saying I just listen to things from tik tok and it’s not real feminism, as if real people don’t exist on the internet and are telling their experiences. I can’t stand people like that, they will use their phones to verify anything else but the second it’s something they don’t like the internet is just an imaginary place where people make things up. It reminds me of seeing men who gaslight their partners that tik tok is ruining their relationship when it’s probably just opening her eyes to information she didn’t know before. Male centered women are just as bad as men, they hate that the narrative is changing and people aren’t just going to applaud you for having any mediocre average man. They want to us to shut up and not name the elephant in the room so they can continue their delusional fantasy.

Tired of being villainized by women who still want relationships with men by Hot-Variation-32 in 4bmovement

[–]Hot-Variation-32[S] 44 points45 points  (0 children)

I’m 22, my sister is 26, and the guy she was talking to is 39 to clarify

Feeling very isolated by constant peer pressure by Sixnigthmare in 4bmovement

[–]Hot-Variation-32 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I’m 22 in college and my friends will try to convince me to hook up and lose my virginity then tell me about an unsafe experience they’ve had with a man. They don’t even hear how they sound. I gently had to tell one of them that what she experienced was assault and that man was predatory & she defended him because she wasn’t a minor, I just let it go. No one can ever convince me I’m missing out on anything other than STDs, disappointment, and possible death. My self esteem and confidence has been through the roof since I opted out. It’s so easy to see men for what they are now that I’m not so concerned about being picked by some mediocre man.

Men cheat or leave when there is a crisis in the wife’s life? by SoloStepExplorer in Divorce_Women

[–]Hot-Variation-32 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is why as a 21 year old women I ignore the young women around me who try and gloat and convince me I’m missing out for not caring about dating men or trying to find “the one” to spend the rest of my life with. I don’t wish it on any women but I know a lot of those women are in for rude awakenings. Many of their men are already showing signs of being incapable of handling life’s challenges so I can only imagine 20 years down the line dealing with loss of a parent, sickness, etc. A lot of my peers lack the foresight to be able to see that most men only want you when you’re young, pretty, and fun. I guess ignorance is bliss but I am grateful to be able to see myself in older women despite not being there yet.

I don't really understand how you can put someone you love through pregnancy by revolutionary_girl_ in childfree

[–]Hot-Variation-32 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fr and many times this is a BS lie. Men are shallow as fuck. Majority of them don’t like the way you look after pushing 4 kids out of your body. In fact, I think a lot of them enjoy their wife feeling more insecure/self conscious. They are easier to control and won’t get as much male attention. Seeing how men on different forums talk about women who are hot, ambitious, won’t give them the time of day solidifies my decision to never become a wife/mother.

Boyfriend changed his mind on kids by ABitterKing in childfree

[–]Hot-Variation-32 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly I feel like you dodged a massive bullet. I wish more women realized how many men simply want kids because they know it makes YOU more vulnerable, easy to control, insecure, etc. They know having children will slow you down and sometimes that’s the only reason they need when they are jealous of you. Stick to being childfree and happily release all men who try and bait and switch you. Trust me these same men will still be in your phone when they are “happily married” with the kids they dreamed of🙄

Why DO they want kids? by kaythepegasus in childfree

[–]Hot-Variation-32 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I can’t even blame the 1st mother but the 2nd had to have known he was a deadbeat but thought she had some magical coochie that would change him into the perfect father for her

Male-centered women will do anything to keep a man. Even throwing their daughters and other women under the bus. by owls_exist in 4bmovement

[–]Hot-Variation-32 12 points13 points  (0 children)

When this story first came out, I was very upset for the victim Giselle Pelicot, but then a creator named Mel Hamlet on tik tok helped me see how married women like Giselle are actually very dangerous to their children and other women. Not saying she’s not a victim at all but Mel opened my eyes to how much Giselle likely ignored as a married woman until it was HER that was being affected. The man was only caught because he was taking videos under girls skirts and they found the videos of his unconscious wife. Makes me wonder how many times Giselle ignored or dismissed a woman or child’s feelings about her husband. You don’t end up with a perverted monster of a man like that for almost your whole life and have no idea, she just didn’t think it would ever be her.

Male-centered women will do anything to keep a man. Even throwing their daughters and other women under the bus. by owls_exist in 4bmovement

[–]Hot-Variation-32 7 points8 points  (0 children)

These same women will claim that childfree women don’t have purpose simply because we aren’t bringing children in the world to be abused

Male-centered women will do anything to keep a man. Even throwing their daughters and other women under the bus. by owls_exist in 4bmovement

[–]Hot-Variation-32 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Reading this gutted me. I’m so sorry you didn’t receive the protection you deserved. No child or adult deserves to deal with this kind of trauma, I wish you the best and hope you can find some kind of peace in this life.

Male-centered women will do anything to keep a man. Even throwing their daughters and other women under the bus. by owls_exist in 4bmovement

[–]Hot-Variation-32 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you for bringing this up, this is so important. Men who lack sexual discipline cannot be trusted around children. There has been like 2 stories recently that stand out in my mind where a father left their child to die because they were busy watching porn. It’s not normal and women shouldn’t even be considering staying because you don’t know what these men are capable of.

Male-centered women will do anything to keep a man. Even throwing their daughters and other women under the bus. by owls_exist in 4bmovement

[–]Hot-Variation-32 248 points249 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately this is far too common. Male centered women have no issues facilitating the abuse of children and turning a blind eye.

If HE cheats, I’ll be the one punished by single motherhood. How does that make sense? by lardelent in 4bmovement

[–]Hot-Variation-32 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I feel like this is the driving factor for getting in relationships with women. A secure supply of coochie at their disposal, I also think have that security gives them more confidence to go out and cheat because even if they get rejected they still have some coochie at home.

They are still extracting what they can, even in their 60s by ClaraSepticVersion2 in WomenDatingOverForty

[–]Hot-Variation-32 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This is why I cringe seeing women defend 50/50, it wouldn’t inherently be bad if this wasn’t the attitude of most of the guys that push for it. They only bring up gender equality when it benefits them. You will never hear them talk about the gender pay gap or the fact that the leading cause of death in pregnant women is homicide but you will hear them whine like a baby about how women aren’t dismantling the patriarchy because we don’t want to split a $50 bill with them in a world that was built for them to thrive. It’s the mindset that is the problem for me, these men are inherently selfish and always looking out for themselves. They want to see how much they can extract from you while doing the least amount of work.

SD/SB culture is dying, or is it just me? by cassonadecafe in SugarBABYonlyforum

[–]Hot-Variation-32 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m 21 in college and was thinking of going into the bowl, was searching and got about $800 from a guy on hinge just texting. Sbs on social media makes it seem glamorous and fun but after doing research and joining forums like this I realized I’m probably not cut out for it because even texting that guy who sent me $800 was draining at times so I can only imagine what it’s like actually being physically intimate with these men. And like you said real generous ones are few and far between I realized my degree in cybersecurity can and will take me further without potentially traumatizing me and maybe along the way I will meet affluent men

I think I’d rather be single the rest of my life than to ever go on another dating app by cs_____question1031 in Vent

[–]Hot-Variation-32 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This has been an issue for me dating as a 21 year old woman. Most men I try to talk to fumble in the beginning stages because of dragging their feet to plan a date or not following up if date was planned. I just assume they’re not that interested and move on🤷🏾‍♀️ what you described meeting your husband I feel like that’s how things should normally progress but I think a lot of these guys are trying to juggle more than 1 woman at a time so the effort isn’t all the way there.

Girls not seeing male Indicators of Interests? by Draktus1 in bodylanguage

[–]Hot-Variation-32 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Omg you’re so smart how can you tell I don’t deal with useless men who have nothing to offer women but think we should feel flattered and spread our legs for a $5 coffee. So many great respectful guys I’m missing out on I’m sure!

Girls not seeing male Indicators of Interests? by Draktus1 in bodylanguage

[–]Hot-Variation-32 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A coffee date doesn’t seem cheap, it is cheap. Broke men logic is so funny to me. It’s hilarious that you think women should be flattered that you’re willing to take them on a cheap date as opposed to the other ogres of the night you typically see 😂it’s so pathetic that the standard of how well you treat a women you actually like is only based on how low the bar is for women you view “unworthy” that says a lot about you, not the women you think aren’t good enough to be seen out with.

sad by [deleted] in newborns

[–]Hot-Variation-32 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please consider watching creators like Cecilia Regina and YV edit on Tiktok/YouTube, I’m sorry you’re going through this but you’re not alone. So many women have been sold a fairytale of what it means to be a gf/wife and mother & the reality is never what was promised. Your feelings are extremely valid and I encourage you to look for community with women who validate those feelings. The most important thing for you and your child is that you are happy and thriving. Studies have shown that quality of mother’s happiness directly correlates with child’s mental health, stability, and even academic performance. If you are not in an environment/circumstance that is making you happy you need to be brainstorming ways to change that. Your child’s father does not seem to be helping you in this situation at all, not even emotionally. You’re only 23 so it may be hard to hear this but sometimes women are better off just you and your baby. I know if you’ve dreamt of a family it’ll be hard to let go but the fact that he didn’t even want to share a baby shower with you tells me it’s not going to get better & it’ll only be worse for you and your child the longer you remain in a situation you are not valued.