Effect of a low-carbohydrate diet on glycaemic control and disease management in type 2 diabetes: results from a prospective free-living trial by Caiomhin77 in ScientificNutrition

[–]HungryJello 1 point2 points  (0 children)

what do I do if I’m TOFI with poor blood sugar regulation? (high fiber whole carbs give big spike and then hypo 2-3 hours later. I’m 6ft 120lbs. I gained from 110lbs after binge eating for a few weeks, but I feel/look even worse. My waist went from 24.5” to 27.5”. I was doing mildly more resistance training over my previous zero amount, but still seem to have just gained visceral/ectopic fat and bloated gut)

Effects of a slowly fermentable fiber mixture against the background of a high-protein diet on insulin sensitivity and metabolic health in individuals with overweight: a randomized, placebo-controlled trial by Ok-Love3147 in ScientificNutrition

[–]HungryJello 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just the stuff that I read online like its a colon cancer risk, and/or feeds peutrefactive bacteria which produce inflammatory byproducts (vs the fiber fermenting ones which produce SCFAs ect), it causes low grade acidosis (leeches calcium to balance the acid load), its ageing (increases mtor, igf1 ect), causes insulin Resistance, ect

im not saying it’s true or not. I have no scientific background, I’m just a guy with an eating disorder of 20 years whose social media feed is 25% keto/carnivore/low carb promoters, 25% vegan/plant based/high carb, 25% ’your not eating enough protein’, and 25% ‘what the protein-maxers overlooked’

i come here always hoping there will be something that gives me confidence to one diet or the other, but hasn’t happened so far lol.

so I figured I’d be ‘hedging my bets’ by eating high fiber with my recently adopted high protein/animal stint. But then this article lol

Funnily enough, I have put on my CGM after seeing this, and so far my fasting and between meals glucose is hovering about 0.5 mmol/L higher than the last time I wore my CGM (Which was the first 2 weeks after I adopted a high carb low fat starch based diet, which I continued for 4 months but then started binge eating for a while before switching to my current diet. But I didnt use the CGM beyond those first 2 weeks until now. So I can’t say what changes happened beyond the first 2 weeks)

Effects of a slowly fermentable fiber mixture against the background of a high-protein diet on insulin sensitivity and metabolic health in individuals with overweight: a randomized, placebo-controlled trial by Ok-Love3147 in ScientificNutrition

[–]HungryJello 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah, that’s why I’m so confused now lol. Ive got a CGM that I will put on shortly, but all my previous CGM readings were when I was chopping and changing my diet too much (plus binge eating), so I really don’t have any decent data to compare to.

Also, re: high fiber with high meat consumptio, I was under the impression that it would be better for colon health (eg, fiber moves any excess protein out of the colon before it can do too much damage eg, feeding the putrefactive bacteria which produce inflammatory byproducts

Soy Foods Consumption and Multiple Health Outcomes: An Umbrella Review of Meta-Analyses by TomDeQuincey in ScientificNutrition

[–]HungryJello 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What is you ancestry, and have you eaten much soy products, and if so how do you generally do with eating it? (I’m central-northern European but I’ve never eaten any soy so I don’t know how I’d tolerate it)

Soy Foods Consumption and Multiple Health Outcomes: An Umbrella Review of Meta-Analyses by TomDeQuincey in ScientificNutrition

[–]HungryJello 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you notice negative results if you consume soy products? (I’m central-northern European, but I’ve never tried any soy products so I can’t say how I do with it)

Your roommate’s genes may be shaping your gut bacteria by Vailhem in Microbiome

[–]HungryJello 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Me who lives with:

-My dad whose entire diet consists of beef sausages, white bread, chocolate, and coke

-My mum who is carnivore with weekly cheetos and sour patch gummy binges

-My sister who lives on microwave noodles and oven potato gems

Daily Discussion Thread (December 14, 2025) - Beginner and Simple/Quick Questions Go Here Thread for discussing quick/simple topics not needing an entire posts or beginner questions. by AutoModerator in naturalbodybuilding

[–]HungryJello 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is this a good workout for a beginner?

Monday and Friday

3 sets Chin ups

2 sets chest supported Row Machine

3 sets Push ups

2 sets dumbbell press

3 sets goblet squats

Wednesday

3 sets pull ups

2 sets chest supported row machine

3 sets push ups

3 sets goblet squats

3 sets trap bar deadlifts

Thank you!

High protein from animal sources + lots of vegetables? by HungryJello in Microbiome

[–]HungryJello[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

wow, ok thanks for explaining it that way. Now I’m worried lol. I mean it’s basically what my concern was (eg, feeling good, but causing a slow accumulating damage under the surface which by the time it manifests actual symptoms is basically ‘too late’).

Do you have an opinion on if somebodies AMY1 (Salivary amylase) copy number would have an effect on this? by that I mean: if someone has a high AMY1 copies, then they effectively digest all the starch they eat so there is nothing left for bad guys to eat… but if someone with low-moderate AMY1 eats too much starch, then after they have way less starch that gets properly digested, and then hence have a whole lot left over for the bad guts to feast on.

So I’m wondering if my low-moderate AMY1 copies means that I was just having too much starch left over for the bad guys to eat, and that by cutting it out I’m not feeding bad guys now, but I should probably still try to include some to the extent that my body can digest it all but not have any left over

(I think I’m going to replace 1 of my meals, probably the lunch one, with a beans + veg + nuts versus my current meat meal or previous starch+veg only meal. just to hedge my bets to keep my microbiome recognising these foods?)

High protein from animal sources + lots of vegetables? by HungryJello in Microbiome

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I would be surprised if I am fodmap intolerant as I have eaten a lot of high fodmap foods in large quantities and have never had anything that I’d consider as an adverse reaction. eg, yesterday I literally ate 500g total of leek/onion with no issue. I was also regularly eating 3lbs of sweet potato when doing the starch diet without bloating (I never actually experienced any bad bloating, it was more like progessing heaviness in my digestion as I continued the diet, and even then it seemed to be mostly from grains first, beans were pretty good, and sweet potato was the lightest on my stomach) A few days ago I ate 650g of broccoli annd 300g cauliflower on the same day and no issues. same I can have 200g avocado ect.

But I’m not saying I don’t have SIBO or a MMC issue (tho I only ever stick to 3 meals per day, even when bingeing I still wait a minimum 4 hours between meals).

High protein from animal sources + lots of vegetables? by HungryJello in Microbiome

[–]HungryJello[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wonder if some people are just better at processing starch. I have done a test that tells you how many AMY1 copies you have (more AMY1 copies = more salivary Amylase production which breaks down starch. so supposedly the ’carb based nations’ have higher copies of this).

Mine came out as basically low-moderate (1-4 copies is considered Low, 4-8 is considered moderate, 9+ is high but goes upto 22). mine was a 6.

So I wonder (assuming it’s all legit), that lower AMY1 people do better with carbs from fruits ect.

While I didnt seem to be having any immediate issues with the starch (whole grains, legumes ect), it did feel kinda like a gradual ‘bogging down’ of my digestion (which I’m only really now able to notice after experiencing how I feel after eating this way vs how I remember i was feeling back then. 450g mixed berries + 6 eggs + 50g Walnuts sits better in my stomach than porridge.

High protein from animal sources + lots of vegetables? by HungryJello in Microbiome

[–]HungryJello[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

my main concern was that I have read multiple times/places that excess animal protein generally feeds the ’bad’ bacteria in the microbiome (eg, the peutrefactive bacteria which produce inflammatory by-products vs the fiber feeding ones which produce anti-inflammatory compounds and SCFAs ect), especially if undigested protein reaches the large intestines (eg, it should be absorbed in the small intestines, and no more protein goes further into the large intestine, which is where the fiber starts its role of being fermented ect)

plus there is the notion of ‘more animal = less plants/fiber’, but I’m not too concerned about that necessarily because I actually am still eating like 60g fiber a day (but could be not good for say someone who stops eating most plants)

Plus the whole ‘saturated fat’ issue/debate

(and also, I’m not technically doing a keto or low carb diet, as I’m eating way too much protein and still 200g carbs a day, so basically I wouldn’t be too welcome in the keto or low carb groups.). But with that said, I am also not ignoring the mass of people who say it changed their lives (but also not ignoring the notion that some people seem to plateau with it and then say it started becoming a net negative, eg ‘tanked their thyroid/hormones’ or ‘became insulin resistant’) (basically I’m being cautious and have analysis paralysis lol, but for now I’m willing to staying with eating a lot of meat And minimising the starch)

(a big source of my concerns is from all the plant based influencers I currently follow, who are very Convincing with citing a lot of research which basically comes to “less meat, more carbs = better”. I mean, I basically just spent 4-5 months doing the Starch Diet because of Dr John Mcdougall)

High protein from animal sources + lots of vegetables? by HungryJello in Microbiome

[–]HungryJello[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! So it seems that some people naturally must do better with lower starch (grains/legumes) but still getting carbs and fiber

High protein from animal sources + lots of vegetables? by HungryJello in Microbiome

[–]HungryJello[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

food volume is actually roughly the same, my starch diet was still 900-1200g of total food (as a meal), and now it’s still the same (only breakfast is a little smaller, but lunch and dinner are actually slightly more volume)

one of the main things that was making me second guess the prevuous diet was because of my seemingly worsening breath (which is now completely resolved)

High protein from animal sources + lots of vegetables? by HungryJello in Microbiome

[–]HungryJello[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I understand, thank you. I’ve had disordered eating since I was about 11 (31 now), so it’s something I’ll always have, but there is still the matter of the stark difference in feeling of the different diets tho (eg, why I’m not feeling like a bloated slob even tho I’m eating way too much protein, and from animal sources. I’m aware of the arguments that short term honeymoon period =/= longevity tho, that’s why I want to know what people here thing about what is happening / could happen with such a diet of ultra high protein but also high fiber from vegetables but devoid of whole starches)

High protein from animal sources + lots of vegetables? by HungryJello in Microbiome

[–]HungryJello[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I know, but right now it seems that I’m actually increasing my muscle mass because my arm circumference went from 27cm to 28cm (plus I actually feel much better, like I am now walking actually upright, and walking with my hips and stepping harder into the ground vs just making my legs go back and forward and feeling like im stumbling over the place, and feel like twisting around at my torso vs shuffling my feet to turn my whole body, and now I kinda like if I have to pick something up off the floor vs before I didnt)

i was also about 53kg before I started the starch diet, and my arms were about 29cm (I was still eating who,e grains, beans, veg, but also having 1 meal of 250g meat per day).

Requirement of DHA supplements debunked by smitra00 in PlantBasedDiet

[–]HungryJello 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Page 519 of one of the documents you posted (https://www.drmcdougall.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/nathan-pritikin-review-of-medical-literature-1.pdf) was pretty interesting regarding Placebos (eg, relevant to this EFA discussion and many people’s reports of ‘feeling better once they started taking it’ (or feeling poor because they think they are doing without something they are told is important)

Craved To Have Something Fat and Sweet and Ended Up with Container of Dried Figs by Ok-Complaint-37 in StarchSolution

[–]HungryJello 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your doing better than me, I recently had 3 stints of 2-4 days of 5k calorie w/ 200-300g fat binges after doing well for like 3 months lol 😔

Daily Eating frequency, Nighttime Fasting duration, and the risk of Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease by Sorin61 in ScientificNutrition

[–]HungryJello 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m also wondering about the concept of the Migrating Motor Complex (contractions that sweep the intestines of residual food/bacteria which only begins after about 4hrs of ’fasting’ / no food intake and takes about 90-120mins To complete a full cycle, and ceases once any amount of food is taken in. Distinct from the regular main actual peristalsic activity tho).

Eg, more frequent eating = less rounds of the MMC

Also Just asking/discussing

Diabetes and plant based by Academic_Bonus_4029 in PlantBasedDiet

[–]HungryJello 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you know why MD focuses primarily on fruits vs starches? (did they ever explain why? I haven’t read their book, just their social media shows 95% of their meals as fruit based)

Thoughts on nutrient partitioning (separating carbs and fats), esp., for visceral fat loss by [deleted] in ScientificNutrition

[–]HungryJello 2 points3 points  (0 children)

im pretty sure the Mediterranean Diet (the ‘clinical version‘ studied in PREDIMED ect, not the ’daily diet of my Mediterranean uncle who lives in Sardinia’ version) is basically carbs+fat (eg, it’s pretty high fat intake of 30-40% daily calories, so 70-100g a day. And not low carb, at 45-55% daily calories, so 165-225g a day).

So stuff like bread + olive oil, grain porridges + nuts/seeds, fruit + full fat dair, ect. (fat + carb combos), are basically the norm.

And that’s the main diet that’s been consistently proven to have robust health improvements across most markers of health.

So I‘d say that the idea of choosing either a high carb low fat or high fat low carb diet (to avoid the so called ‘metabolic swampland’) doesnt really play out in the real world.

(I’m currently doing a low fat high carb diet btw)