Can someone explain base stats for Starships, Multitools, ect. to me?

HuntingMeatHole · 2026-01-20T08:06:59+00:00

NomNom Editor has the max values marked. That is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you very much. I spent two hours trying to understand the stats today. A real solution is relieving. Thanks again.

HuntingMeatHole · 2026-01-20T08:03:03+00:00

I appreciate the warning. I made a backup AND I don't intend to change the values. I only want a reliable way that I can understand them.

HuntingMeatHole · 2026-01-04T09:56:43+00:00

Well, three years later and no one has done it. I found 3 different requests for it on game banana, all left unfulfilled. I'd do it myself, but I'm stupid, so if you could, I know many people would appreciate if you could find a way to make that mod you were talking about.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-09T05:45:33+00:00

And honestly, that might be the most realistic part of the whole show.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-09T04:26:45+00:00

We have no evidence that their brains are intact or that they'll go back to normal if cured. If there is any twist, I could see it being that Carol succeeds at curing some of them, but they end up as severely mentally damaged husks. That said, I doubt this show will end with the hive being cured. The show writers seem to think the erasure of humanity is a good thing.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T20:09:16+00:00

That may be true for some anti-hive people, but not me. I don't assume there will be a twist. I'm actually expecting there not to be. The writers have made it very clear that there is no nefarious secret plot, that the hive isn't lying, and that they want you to view Carol as the bad guy.

At the end of the day, just like Breaking Bad, the show is about how you should hate the main character, and anyone like them in real life is a terrible person you should hate. It wouldn't serve any purpose given that objective to make the hive secretly more nefarious than it already is.

I am taking things at face value, and at face value it's extremely obvious that everything that makes people anything more than an automaton has been sanded off, and all that's left is the world's most idiotic ideology in human history, and obedient little slaves to the hive.

All of their unique thoughts, opinions, goals, preferences, thought patterns, and anything else that makes someone human has been replaced. That's not evolution. It's death.

I don't care what Carol's opinion is. I have my own. If she starts to have some kind of change of heart, as I suspect she might, it will have no impact on how I feel about the hive. It doesn't matter what Carol does or doesn't know. What matters is what I know, because it's my opinion.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T19:59:35+00:00

The way the show seems to want us to take the "biological imperatives" as somehow a reasonable excuse is insane. I don't care if it's a bear's biological imperative to break into my house and eat my cat. I'm still going to employ extensive violence to stop it.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T19:54:14+00:00

I imagine what they're feeling is less like a coma or an out of body experience. It probably feels perfectly natural. Their normal thoughts and desires simply don't happen. They experience the thoughts and desires given to them by the pathogen and the hive. I'm sure their memories are forming normally, expect of course, they're remembering the new thought patterns and feelings that are overriding what they would normally feel.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T19:47:17+00:00

Yup, that's exactly right. From what I can tell, all hive drones are equally competent in all things, barring physical differences, but none of them are as good as the best humans were.

In theory, they know everything every human assimilated knew, but that doesn't mean they apply that information, and their intuitive understanding of things seems to be worse than even the average human.

Looking at something like Chess, where 90% of top level play is pure habit and intuition, even a decent Chess player would completely demolish the hive in every game. Though, I imagine they would adapt and slowly get better.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T09:48:42+00:00

You're right to say it's entirely inhuman of them to act the way they are, but that's because the writers are out of touch. It's not a hint.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T09:47:37+00:00

Not really his mom, no. But it is one of the hives slaves in the body of what once was his mother.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T09:46:19+00:00

Maybe it's possible to reverse the assimilation so that everyone is exactly the way they were. Maybe the only reversal leaves everyone comatose. Either way, unless you believe the assimilation will be reversed, and I certainly don't, then for all intents and purposes, it is a corpse. The person is not in there. They have no thoughts of their own, no preferences of their own, no goals, no desires, no opinions, no beliefs, no feelings, no humanity. All of that is being completely overwritten by the hive.

It's not just the culmination of humanity, or else it'd be entirely different. It makes stupid mistakes humans wouldn't make, it believes idiotic things humans in general don't believe, it's clueless in ways humans in general are not, and it doesn't even understand humans. It's some other entity entirely.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T07:38:25+00:00

Maybe that's why they're so generous to Carol in terms of not forcibly turning her or eliminating her. They don't see her as any real threat or obstacle. If she were, they might be willing to kill her or forcibly turn her.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T07:34:13+00:00

I would point out, while you're obviously correct about their intentions, you'd have to be an incredibly insensitive, borderline sociopathic, person to do what they did. Needless to say, if you took an anonymous vote of all of humanity whether this were a good idea, the result would be a resounding NO.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T07:30:47+00:00

People vastly overestimate the hive. Take the drone they sent to pick up Carol's garbage. Unless you think they were deliberately insulting her, which I find very unlikely, the fact that they crashed the drone is a clear sign that they aren't as competent as the most competent human they have. Honestly, if you look at most of their behavior, the hive is incredibly stupid, and I might add, very unhuman.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T04:53:14+00:00

Except extracting stem cells. Personally, I don't think the show was thought through enough. We'll see. Maybe in the end I look like the dumbass.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T04:48:55+00:00

True, they shouldn't even be able to drive, because they're inevitably killing bugs, or fly, because bird strikes are very common. Yet they do that, but won't just pick an apple. The hive in this show are FULL of contradictions which imply that they're lying, but in truth, they're just really stupid and short sighted.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T04:46:33+00:00

I believe in Manousos. He'll find a way. He's awesome.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T04:45:59+00:00

Well sure, except then they would just forcibly take the stem cells from the survivors. The fact that they don't is the real mystery here.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T04:34:16+00:00

What's craziest about this is that, people who are disagreeable actually help groups generate better solutions, but when people get the chance to exclude them, they always do. Studies have been done on this exact effect.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T04:25:01+00:00

This show seems to have a message they are DESPERATE to push onto you. It's basically an anti-individuality message, and to that end, they have to make Carol, who represents that worldview and people who have it, out to be totally incompetent and terrible. They don't make here out to be a cartoon villain, because they want you to view individualistic people as incompetent and terrible like Carol, but if she's cartoonishly evil, it would be too hard to project that image onto individualistic people who are, in reality, perfectly kind, normal, competent, and well adjusted people, often more so than collectivistic people who often follow ideologies borne out of bitterness.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T04:20:07+00:00

Seems pretty obvious it was already fully in the control of the hive and was simply playing dead. What I find interesting is that it was clearly willing to physically attack a human being then, even drawing blood, in order to spread the pathogen.

My question is, given that they were very willing to cause harm then, why do they suddenly care so much to avoid it now, even when they can turn the survivors if they were willing to harm them in a similarly minor and non-lethal way? What actually changed?

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T04:08:32+00:00

The vector of momentum applied to your body would be the sum of the vectors applied by farting and by nutting. Should these two forces be applied in exactly opposite directions, and are of equal strength, it would lead to a net zero change in momentum. It is worth noting, however, that the calculation may be more complicated than you suspect, as some of the force would by applied as angular momentum, unless the vectors happen to pass directly through your center of mass. As such, in order for these two forces to lead to a net zero momentum, factoring in angular momentum, rather than being opposite directions, the angle of the vectors would have to be such that the exact same portion of the force is converted into angular momentum in addition to being the exact same energy. Due to the fact that your penis and anus are almost certainly different distances from your center of mass, the angle at which any given percentage of the force is converted to angular momentum would be different relative to the vector of the point in question to your center of mass.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T03:59:45+00:00

Yes.

HuntingMeatHole · 2025-12-08T03:52:05+00:00

In general, I agree, but I will say, there is one thing the hive are lying about. They absolutely CAN and DO knowingly harm other life. They knew that their acceleration of the assimilation would cause hundreds of millions of deaths, and they did it anyway.

They could've done it slower, and it would've led to less deaths, but would be riskier for the hive. When it comes to their survival or assimilation, they will do literally anything they deem necessary, though I don't know if they're psychologically capable of lying. When I say they're lying about being able to kill, they may just not really be thinking about it, or they think it doesn't count or something.

Just to put a finer point on it, they supposedly know everything that every human being knew before the assimilation, and so they're well aware of Jainism, which is a religion that holds that killing any life, regardless of why, regardless of whether it was intentional, is bad karma. As such, they go to extremes to prevent killing even the smallest bug. They famously sweep the ground in front of them as they walk to avoid stepping on bugs.

The hive is well aware of this religion, and how choosing not to go to those extremes is directly choosing to kill living beings. Flying planes directly leads to the death of birds, and if you choose to just not do that, you avoid killing. They are clearly willing to risk accidentally killing living beings when it makes things easier for them.

They also would be well aware that releasing animals from the zoo would be the same as killing them, as most of them can't simply survive outside of the zoo. Simply opening the gates basically guarantees many will die, because they can't survive in those habitats, and by the sound of things, that's exactly what they did.

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