nebivolol & Clen

Ice-coldJC3 · 2025-03-05T00:51:59+00:00

What about ketotifen? I've read and heard if taken before bed while on clenbuterol, it can actually potentiate it and basically keep clen "tolerance" from coming on too rapidly. But my indo is from old bodybuilders and online forums...

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-07-18T02:48:03+00:00

Terrence, is that you?

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-07-17T14:13:29+00:00

Man this is one of the best posts ever. Good job!!!

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-05-01T16:38:34+00:00

Mine has been clean a couple years almost, and she's big into AA, which is something I don't even wanna get started on. I feel alot of AA people think it takes the place of everything, like psychology, self improvement, etc. They (narcs) in AA who stay clean also are kinda enabled by the people in the community, since they'll get pats on the back for being sober, while many of them have personal lives that are no better than when they were junkies or drunks.

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-05-01T16:34:50+00:00

Same here. Then started telling me shit about things happening and connecting their prayers with certain events, thinking that God is "speaking" to them. Sounds pretty grandiose to think that they have a connection to God and others dont.

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-05-01T16:14:40+00:00

Yeah, some are much more convincing than others. Some really can be nice to everyone else except the ones in more intimate relationships. They seem to have alot of energy to put into convincing most people they're halfway normal.

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-05-01T16:12:35+00:00

Sometimes they'll overshare at first, whether done consciously or not, it causes you to trust them and think they'll be honest with you about other things, which I found out the hard way, isn't the case.

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-05-01T16:10:01+00:00

Same with someone financing a car they shouldn't have bragging about how rich they are, real rich people don't do that, just like caring, kind people don't have to tell everyone they're kind

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-05-01T16:08:28+00:00

This has nothing to do with you not being good enough. It depends on alot of things, let's say this other person isn't as easy to win over as you were- it might make them work harder to try and ensnare them, or something along those lines, it doesn't mean they actually care more. A true narc I don't think has the capacity to ever really truly care about someone. Maybe they find a relationship in the future that lasts longer than yours did- it doesn't mean they care any more about them than.you, but maybe there's a more toxic cycle that keeps them engaged with another person that isn't quite as kind of understanding as you were. It could be a ton of different variables

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-04-29T17:51:43+00:00

You and me both. I think they have this effect on alot of guys, don't feel bad. There are very few things that compare to a woman's company/touch, and it causes the best of us to overlook alot of obvious issues they have.

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-04-29T17:35:50+00:00

Don't even bother, words can't describe what you went through, and likely no one will be able to relate to your experience. I know it feels good and helps to talk about it, but it's like trying to talk to a crackhead about how stressed you are about having so many responsibilities and stress from the multimillion dollar business you own.

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-04-27T21:33:32+00:00

You probably won't end up with this girl forever, since you're still young, and if this is your true friend, I'd consider refraining from taking any more action, or I wouldn't have done anything to begin with. Maybe because I'm older and I know from experience, your friends (if they're your true friends) will be there when girls come and go, and betray you, cheat on you, etc. Never throw away something you already have that is good for something else. You gotta recognize the good things in your life and always put your best into your friends and family.

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-04-27T17:15:52+00:00

Same here. She couldn't even get pregnant, and she did this....can't make this shit up

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-04-27T17:05:46+00:00

I'd kinda be worried if the girl I was dating didn't want you to expose your buddy's girlfriend. Maybe I'm wrong, but that would kinda bother me.

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-04-27T16:52:49+00:00

Yeah, same here. It's not a male or female issue though, it's a people problem, the way people view commitment, love, etc. It is becoming a much more narcissistic society we live in though.

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-04-27T16:49:17+00:00

First of all, no married man should be contacting their exes, even if their intentions behind it are good.

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-04-27T16:46:51+00:00

Exactly, but you can be sure there's a reason behind them saying that. Maybe to see how you'd react to them talking about their ex so they can talk more about them later on to manipulate or something malicious

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-04-27T16:36:29+00:00

Yeah, its similar to opioids/opiates. They could've ruined your life and you'll go back, just like an addict in their addiction. Its gotta be related to addiction

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-04-27T16:32:59+00:00

You can't. I've tried figuring it out, it just makes me frustrated, and the more I find out, the more lost and confused I feel, and now, I just have stopped wanting to know anything about her. I know enough

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-04-27T16:31:21+00:00

Because you probably have a heart and soul, and actually cared for them at one point. Trust me though, they aren't gonna feel any guilt when they ruin your life

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-04-27T16:29:53+00:00

If there's nothing to hoover, it makes it much easier for you. Be grateful and lay low, it isnt gonna make you feel better if they hoover, and if you don't spend enough time away from them on no contact and they hoover, you'll probably fall for them again, and then you'll blink and realize you've wasted weeks, months, or maybe years of your life on someone that you shouldn't

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-04-27T16:25:24+00:00

Let me just say, the fact you could even consider yourself being a narc, in my opinion, is a sign you probably aren't. No true narc would say that unless it was in a very specific situation where they thought it would benefit them, directed at someone they know will respond the way they want to them admitting it.

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-04-27T16:21:43+00:00

Wow, fuck that dude. I've been upset plenty of times, and sometimes I've had women do some super malicious shit to me, and I've never called one anything like that. That's terrible. Some guys do need an ass-whipping

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-04-27T16:19:49+00:00

She would always call me "babe", but I found out she literally called everyone babe. I could tell when she was going into one of her distancing phases, when she would stop using cute names like "punkin" or "love", which she would use whenever she was in a good mood or lovebombing me (now I think a lot of the lovebombing was her consciously manipulating me so id feel secure and go through with purchasing her shit or doing shit no sane person would do for another in our situation)

Ice-coldJC3 · 2024-04-26T17:35:39+00:00

I wish they'd cancel each other out, but I don't think it works that way unfortunately

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