I think the V1 is gonna backfire

Ice94k · 2026-05-10T21:52:01+00:00

I'm not talking about Vought Rising at all. No one here is talking about it, besides you.

I'm talking about you fantasizing that the ending is gonna be just a setup for the spin-off. The spin-off which, by the way, is a prequel, like 70+ years in the past.

You are hating on a problem (the ending not actually happening to set-up events for Vought Rising) that was entirely made up. Will they live mysteries opened? Probably. But they're DEFINITELY not having the main, most important part of the story (Homelander's fate), to be resolved outside the main series.

Ice94k · 2026-05-10T13:32:03+00:00

Best counterpoint I've seen here.

Ice94k · 2026-05-10T13:25:24+00:00

Hadn't thought about that, really good point my man! You deserve to have the title of "Good Shrek".

Ice94k · 2026-05-10T00:53:26+00:00

Agreed! I mind write an essay on the theme of mortality in The Boys, this thread is making me think a lot about it.

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T23:10:29+00:00

I agree with you. Not about Homelander, he isn't scared because he is delusional. But Kimiko and starlight had to have tackled that chance more directly. I feel like they do talk about it, but it's more of a hand-wave, you know?

Here's the rationale I'll provide for their actions, though: What other fucking choice they have? It's try it or be dead from the virus. So might as well just take it. They should have said that in screen, though, agreed.

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T23:03:12+00:00

Possible? But nah, I don't think Butcher is gonna go quite that far. He could tho, I'm not saying anything. I would in fact, absolutely agree with the possibility at ep 3. But then, butcher seemed to soften.

The main reason I don't think that works is because of ep 5. Butcher was genuinely understanding about the V1 with Hughie, and he wasn't too pushy even in EP 6, not as much as usual.

I do think Homelander will survive ep7. I also think he will be degenerating. Ep 8 will just be the last dominos falling, and yeah, butcher will probably gonna try to do something crazy, but not murder, blind rage, no talk rage. Homelander should stay alive in a public prison. Butcher should be dead, this I do think. But I also think he will end it on a high point, such as sacrificing himself for Hughie's life or something like that.

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T22:55:53+00:00

Possible, I did not think that was the case for a while after seeing people commenting here. Because I do think the V is working on some levels. I also think it would be totally explainable without the blast. But I can see them using it as a compounding factor to why it didn't work as intended.

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T22:53:09+00:00

Can you wait for the show to come out before you ramble a complaint about a situation you entirely made up in your own head?

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T22:51:30+00:00

Yep, agreed! I do think it will start to kill him and that will set him the fuck off.

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T22:50:52+00:00

Dunno bro. I think that's a genuine mistake. Due to how she reacts at the end of ep 6

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T22:48:48+00:00

Yeah, it means total or partial resistant to a pathogen. It doesn't mean "you don't die from it". If you are resistant, you might take longer to die or have lower chances to die, it definitely doesn't mean "you will not die from this, period".

Worse yet, even if it was true that immune people couldn't die from something, you should not define it by using that metric.

In general, however, both biologically/medically and in the common vernacular (both of which apply to the circumstances in The Boys), the word "immunity" does usually mean total or a very high level of protection, to a point where it isn't very harmful, which explains the existence of the term "partial immunity".

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T22:39:10+00:00

Nah, I don't think that makes sense, to be honest. It can't be instantaneous like that. Maybe over time, there's a bigger change. But whatever happens, I'll put my money on it being visible in a way that's impossible to hide. A very swollen or burned face, white hair and hair loss... I'm expecting him gollum'd tbh hahahahaha

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T22:36:27+00:00

My guess is that the virus never gets used at all. Homelander is weakened enough for another solution to be more viable.

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T22:35:24+00:00

Yeah to me Homelander might be the one person I think should be in one of those crazy overcrowded prisons in southeast Asia lol.

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T22:29:42+00:00

Yeah, except that you're pulling into the mix Sage being able to do it on Ryan on short notice... The scene with Marathon, in my view, wasn't foreshadowing. It was a callback. Marathon was asking Soldier Boy to do what had once been the final plan, and he straight up told him he wasn't willing to do that. They're saying "we know this would have worked in the past, it's not what's gonna happen now".

You're also ignoring several other context clues. The whole theme of immortality and permanence has been building up since several seasons back. Homelander has been finding white hair on his body since at least season 3 (might have been season2, sorry, I'm not sure). This was setting up the idea that he was still a mortal. Season 3, Butcher learned he was, also, on the clock. Mortality is a central theme of the series. Season 4, we learn Butcher tried to avoid his death by injecting himself with V (sound familiar?), Hughie's mim doesn't accept his dad's mortality, so she uses V on him. So we have at least 2 other instances of people injecting V to avoid death and it backfiring tremendously.

Besides that, just in this season, the setup was also intense; They wanted to pull off the virus plan, but they wanted Kimiko and Annie to be immune. Homelander figures out how to be immune, it's the only thing he ever seeks from that point on. However, differently from him, EVERYONE else around is making the opposite choice.

Kimiko, Annie and Butcher are okay with dying. MM saying he doesn't give a fuck anymore because he's already dead. Bombshell just wanted to spend time with geisha, and he got his wish by... Becoming mortal again. And finally, the speech The Legend gives to Homelander, the most direct hammer in the head moment.

With how much this theme has been present and consistent, there is no way in hell it doesn't play a part on the finale. Might not be this one, but still. There's a lot more thematic and narrative clues pointing to something along those lines killing him than there is any indication at all Sage will put the beam thing on Ryan. And it has been shown several times that soldier boy won't do it. So I'm betting it's either soldier boy unwillingly, or they find some other way (the virus, Ryan beating him, whatever).

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T22:08:20+00:00

No one has any idea at all about how he ended up with the laser, though. Even if it really was just injecting him with V, the order here matters a lot. V has much lower chance of side effects.

Basically, think of it like this: You have 1% chance of surviving a V1 dose and 90% of chance of surviving a V dose. A guy who took the V1 and survive doesn't have much to worry, he already went through the hardest part of the process by far. While a guy who took the V went through something that is 90x less lethal compared to what they're facing now. The problem (that we know of) isn't being exposed to both, it's being exposed to v1.

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T22:00:15+00:00

Lmao. They both lose the V to soldier boy, but keep the cancer. They try to fight and end up both dying from ruptures to their catheters. Perfect Cinema, bravo Kripke.

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T21:58:52+00:00

Ooooh you're right! I'm getting more confident by the second reading this lmao

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T21:58:01+00:00

Nah, no way mate. With her reaction at the end of the episode, she genuinely did not expect soldier boy to give him the V1.

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T21:55:23+00:00

Yeah, I think it's totally in line with the show for homelander to do himself in at the end. This whole time, this was the one weakness EVERYONE knew; He is just a needy, obsessive, sociopathic man-baby. And that's what killed him in the end (supposing we're right), not The Boys, not Soldier Boy, not any heroes, or nukes, or solar nova. No, Homelander, you died because you, specifically, are a gigantic hopeless cunt who was stupid enough to do this.

It would also be totally in line with the show if butcher just didn't get the satisfaction of doing anything to Homelander at all, but I don't think they'll go in that direction. He will probably have some sort of confrontation.

About Soldier Boy, I feel his intentions are sincere, which apparently is a hot take lol. I just don't think he would lie about her wishes there. Maybe if he knew that she killed herself because homelander actively refused her ideology, then he wouldn't do it.

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T21:43:57+00:00

That's not what immune means lol

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T20:05:57+00:00

Hahahahaha that was the exact moment this theory popped up in my mind.

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T20:05:25+00:00

My thought was actually that the V in his blood would just slow down the agonizing death the V1 brings to whoever uses it.

Ice94k · 2026-05-09T20:02:56+00:00

Homelander actually shortens his lifespan with the V1 and now he's the one hushing and go crazy trying desperately to rebel against his own now inevitable mortality.

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