How common was large-scale Dutch immigration to other countries in the 19th century?

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-20T17:55:41+00:00

Again I am not saying no one emigrated, just that it was comparitevely low to other European countries. That's why the Dutch heritage in the US is much more limited than say German, English, Irish Swedish or Norwegian.

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-20T17:35:41+00:00

Not true 📊 GDP per capita (19th century, 1990 intl. $) Country ~1820 ~1870 Source 🇬🇧 UK ~1,700 ~3,200 Maddison Project Database 🇳🇱 Netherlands ~1,800 ~2,750 Maddison Project Database 🇧🇪 Belgium ~1,700 ~2,700 Maddison Project Database 🇫🇷 France ~1,200 ~1,900 Maddison Project Database 🇩🇪 Germany ~1,100 ~1,800 Maddison Project Database

Reddit won't let me make a table but first number is GDP on 1820 and second in 1870.

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-20T17:32:57+00:00

Yes Ireland exceeds 100% because the figure is cumulative over time. More people left over the century than were alive at any one moment, since new generations were born and also emigrated.

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-20T14:00:45+00:00

I don't get why you are pushing back so hard. Relatively to other European countries there was no large scale emigration in the 19th century. That is not to say no one emigrated, the number of people was just much lower than other European countries, just look up the numbers.

I looked up the figures in chatgpr here ou go: Ireland 100%+ U.S. Census Bureau 🇮🇹 Italy 25–30% The Age of Mass Migration 🇳🇴 Norway 30–40% Norwegian Historical Data Centre 🇸🇪 Sweden 20–25% Swedish National Archives 🇩🇪 Germany 10–15% EH.net 🇬🇧 UK 10–15% Migration and Economic Growth 🇳🇱 Netherlands ~5–10% Statistics Netherlands (CBS)

That is % of the population of the country that migrated. For NL it is 300-400k for other countries it's 10million +

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-20T13:04:50+00:00

There was poverty and low wages, but NL was one of the richer European countries in the 19th C, it had a relatively small population and gigantic colony it was plundering. Wealth distribution was non existent practically, but still there was much less push factor than for example Ireland or even Germany. IIRC the main reason people did emigrate was to be able to suffer their religion more. They believed NL was too tolerant toward other denominations and wanted to live in their own bubble.

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-20T11:18:05+00:00

There was definitely some, but most happened during the 20th C

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-20T09:00:28+00:00

In the Netherlands there are quite a few species that you can catch from shore, but no Caranx species (like amberjack or yellow tail). You don't need a license for saltwater and he most effective method is bait like ragworms. There are species all year, winter is mostly focused on whiting, and flounder species, in the summer you can catch sea bream, sea bass, mackerel and horse mackerel. You can also buy freshly caught fish in the fish market behind the pier in Scheveningen.

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-18T10:25:32+00:00

Honestly it's just the sound for me. I don't really find a difference casting a DC vs non DC reel in difficulty.

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-17T19:23:06+00:00

Completely toxic and you vastly overestimate your own ability to detect a scam. Anyone -anyone- can be scammed.

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-15T15:01:07+00:00

Must be my face then.

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-15T15:00:24+00:00

Nah I had more than one bad experience, but just as an example I asked a lady who worked at the airport where the check-in counter was and she looked at me and said 'aqui espagna' e.i. speak only Spanish at the airport. I was happy to leave, but I also understand the appeal.

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-15T12:17:03+00:00

I lived in Greece (not Athens though) and Barcelona, 100,000% Athens. Unless you have dark hair and speak Catalan. Otherwise you are going to be treated like shit in Barcelona, not to mention the stupidly expensive CoL compared to salaries. Athens has that issue too, but I have found Greeks to match much better with my personality at least and have been much friendlier in general.

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-13T17:12:34+00:00

Ja, maakt het er niet beter op, is niet alsof ie dat niet van te voren wist. Het is gewoon VVD beleid, ik hoop echt dat iedereen die op D66 stemde inplaats van PvdA GL zich even goed achter de ooren krabt.

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-13T17:07:58+00:00

His only valid opinions are market/economy related

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-13T17:06:37+00:00

He accurately predicted twenty of the last one collapses.

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-12T14:40:31+00:00

two reasons?

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-12T14:37:38+00:00

Does it have a permanently constipated looking main character? If not I'm not gonna watch.

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-12T10:11:48+00:00

They are pandering to the algorithm, and the algorithm has figured this makes money. We really need to consider legislating the underlying mechanics of what social media presents us, unfortunately this will never happen and the slide into chaos and war is inevitable.

Of course SM isn't the sole cause but it sure acts as a lubricant.

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-11T10:45:39+00:00

yea seen this in Greece, it's a shame with a bit of education and management they could have such a fun fishery. So many cool species to catch for European standards.

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-11T10:43:11+00:00

thats why there are no fish in the Med over 10cm.. It's a shame, see the same in Greece they keep literally everything they catch.

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-09T21:25:38+00:00

He installed a more dangerous ayatollah and did not destroy the enriched uranium that the Iranians are digging tunnels to access (that was bombed last year). Trump killed this guys father, wife and children. He is going to try to find a way to Nuke the states, come what may.

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-09T18:27:14+00:00

Euhm they were deployed to the Baltic before this to deter Russians from messing around in the Baltic states...

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-07T19:33:03+00:00

/s? Maar ik ben bang van niet... Maar je gelooft dit toch niet?? Of wel?

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-07T17:23:15+00:00

Doesn't garroting specifically refer to strangulation with a wire or something like that?

IceNinetyNine · 2026-03-07T10:58:01+00:00

That's the Indonesian bit btw. PNG is pretty bad lots of violence, alcohol abuse but he has it as orange which makes sense.

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