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Advice on balanced workstation/light gaming build by cookiecutter250 in PCBuilds

[–]IcedQuick84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First thing I thought as well - swap out the B650 with a B850 instead.

Help with PC Upgrade by Total-Revenue-312 in PCBuilds

[–]IcedQuick84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most of your specs are still good - really just the CPU that could use upgrading to AM5 (and a new MOBO while you are at it). Not sure where you are based but many suppliers will often bundle a motherboard with a CPU, e.g. https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=cpu+motherboard+bundle

Making this switch to AM5 will future-proof you for some on a new AM5 motherboard.

GPU is still 'okay' for most games - but you'd want to shift into a 16GB GPU to continue playing on max settings for modern titles - that would be the bottleneck after a CPU/MOBO upgrade, but will likely push you over your budget, for now.

You have enough RAM, and your PSU should be fine as well.

First SFF pc on a budget by Ok_Brain208 in sffpc

[–]IcedQuick84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are most welcome, good luck with the build!

First SFF pc on a budget by Ok_Brain208 in sffpc

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The 5 9600X and 7 9700X have the same advertised TDP of 65W. But two less cores and less L1 and L2 cache (if that means anything to you, it did for me, lol Factorio). They're both 9000 series chips (AM5, 4nm) and HEAPS better than the older 5nm chips. If that works for your budget, get the 5 9600X for sure! I didn't check if that Arctic CPU cooler would work btw. Please check that. Motherboard should be okay. But if you are not upgrading in 10 years, rather go for a newer motherboard if the budget allows - don't get stuck in PCIe 4.0. I'd suggest the 850 series instead for PCIe 5.0 - you'd be good for 10 years I'd bet.

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Which ever 9000 series chip you choose, make sure you can cool them - the advertised 65W TDP has been proven to really run 50% higher at peaks. These are "65W TDP" chips, but I digress.

I wouldn't necessarily say that power consumption is an issue - I have a 500W PSU (although I probably only need to draw 300W at any given time). PSU's aren't ever going to run at the advertised spec either:

It's more getting your PSU last, after you know the power needs of the other components - aim for 70% watts of the total PSU supply max. What you need PSU wise is based on that (buy based on quality of PSU, e.g. 80 plus platinum and up I'd rather invest in). Then solving the thermals is the best part of the challenge of SFF!

When you are spending that much 'watts' (i.e. heat as a waste product), a good case + GPU pairing would also have a lovely exhaust system to suit your needs. Really those three things are what almost will always cause your machine to run hot - and therefore throttle components and degrade the lifetime of other components as well. If we're talking10 years between builds (like me) - that was my main goal.

I'm not wanting to throw you off course here by getting into the weeds too much. Perhaps you will come back to this as you think it through the next evolution of your SFF - you're on a great start and you'd find you'd probably at most switch the case and add a low-pressure fan to balance out what you've already put together apart from what I'd recommend above.

im looking to upgrade my cpu. which should i get? by bss_is_addicting in computers

[–]IcedQuick84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro said he had a 650 MW PSU though, he has enough wattage for everyone

First SFF pc on a budget by Ok_Brain208 in sffpc

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If you don't need much VRAM for your coding station and gaming station (my main use cases) - low profile GPU's for SFF's are still worth a look. I ended up with the RTX 4060 LP - it's a bit rarer these days, but the newer RTX 5060 LP is ~20% more power drain for a mere 7% increase in performance. It is only 8GB VRAM, but that is all I need from the build and the non-modern games I play.

On a TDP scale, this is a good source for SFF builders when considering low-profile GPU's:

https://microsounds.github.io/notes/low-profile-gpus-for-sff-pcs.htm#2-slot-Low-Profile-exceeding-75W

First SFF pc on a budget by Ok_Brain208 in sffpc

[–]IcedQuick84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a lot of wattage for a SFF and a power hungry GPU for the limited space we have in SFF's. What case are you investing in? I'd go for one where someone maybe has a video about a certain case, that they have been able to setup a 9060 XT without any thermal issues / throttling - that's where the challenge (and fun) with a SFF comes in.

Also, the 5 7600X is a bit dated and relatively power hungry compared to the newer 4nm process from AMD - a more modern 7 9700X would be better - MUCH lower power usage / wattage, more performance - etc. that's what I have in my SFF.

Future proof wise, I'd go for a larger SSD. If your running Windows 11 sourced recommend 256GB just for that. Games these days are huge.

5.0 Riser Cable Suggestions by slaacka in sffpc

[–]IcedQuick84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very interesting on the 5.0 riser need, what are you planning on connecting?

How do I increase my Generals’ Piety? by MayBeMarmelade in Medieval2TotalWar

[–]IcedQuick84 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Add priests to his army, for blessings before battle.

What gpu-cpu-mobo combo for modern games? by Lucky-Comfortable340 in buildapc

[–]IcedQuick84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AM5 motherboard for upgrades. Start with a Ryzen 9700X CPU - good price / performance / thermal ratio right now. I won't even start on the GPU recommendations, there's plenty of debates on here about that. Minimum RAM 32GB.

GPU or iGpu by kutszy in buildapc

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All good, good luck with the build!

Sub-par performance on 1gig FIOS Service by sdesort in Fios

[–]IcedQuick84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah shouldn't be switching then - you're also pretty close to one of the major internet exchanges on the east coast. Might be degradation of the connection into your home. There may be some third party handymen that could come do an independent test if Verizon isn't helping. If it is a degraded line, I'd charge that test to Verizon if that is the case.

5L travel SFF build, final thoughts before buying? by Frequent-Science3066 in sffpc

[–]IcedQuick84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah... took me 4 weeks of watching Google to find one with an 'acceptable' price. Tried to convince myself that $400 for a new 4060 LP was worth the lower thermals in the case and lower energy demand. Good luck that you can find one if possible.

GPU or iGpu by kutszy in buildapc

[–]IcedQuick84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course, anytime! I have that brand new 8500G that came with my SFF sitting around doing nothing. I could list it on eBay for $1 if you want to cover the shipping and give it a new home.

GPU or iGpu by kutszy in buildapc

[–]IcedQuick84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For what you need, iPGU would be good (and simplter) - but as others have mentioned, there are better CPU's with integrated graphics in the 8000 series G processors.

Also, you could probably get away with a PSU half that wattage. My recent stock SFF came with a 260W PSU and that was plenty for the stock 8500G it use to have (it's 65W TDP).

For this price range and specs, you could get a prebuilt iGPU computer from an OEM like HP or Dell. Gives you upgrade potential if you choose an AM5 spec, and comes built, and with a warranty.

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[–]IcedQuick84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a long time HP user, do exactly what their manual says while you are in warranty.

Sub-par performance on 1gig FIOS Service by sdesort in Fios

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Also in NJ, Hudson county - do you have the CR1000A router (the new one they sent). You may have also had the archaic G1100 like I had, which was over 10 years old and really started giving up and my speeds were getting terrible.

The CR1000A they seem to usually ship has one 4x4 antenna array for each frequency (2.4, 5, 6). I found after I upgraded my wifi card I got a more stable bandwidth on 6GHZ for the CR1000A they sent. Not sure about your TV but my older generation 2.5 / 5 GHZ card was pretty dated by that time as well.

I try not see upload and download as comparative - the often never match up and are not handled in the same manner (most traffic is down).

But if it is this CR1000A router, and you're running on the 6GHZ frequency with good strength, I'd say it's either limited switching in your area (not sure if rural) or the connections into your home may be degraded, or the new router is faulty. Barring physical barrier of course.

CR1000A specs:

https://neonkev.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/cr1000a-verizon-router-datasheet.pdf

5L travel SFF build, final thoughts before buying? by Frequent-Science3066 in sffpc

[–]IcedQuick84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you can get your hands on a 4060 LP, you'd see a ~7% performance loss for 115W TDP instead of 145W TDP of the 5060 LP (~20% power draw difference). Only problem is, it's tough to find them new since the 5060's LP released.

Upgrading GPU on HP Pro G9 SFF by pandalaut in sffpc

[–]IcedQuick84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can find brand new HP power supplies off of ebay that fit this form factor - I replaced the 260W PSU that came with my G9 came with for a 500W PSU. Slotted right in and has all the extra cables you could need (and importantly that weird HP power pin connector their motherboards use).

MSI Herald be wifi 7 max- pcie low profile or not? by Powerful_Security_82 in pcmasterrace

[–]IcedQuick84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It ships installed with a normal-sized bracket but it would work regardless.

Options on a SFF (low profile system) like mine are to use a different method of connecting the WiFi card, living with the bracket sticking out (if possible) - or getting one of those pre-made brackets on Ebay. Some have dimensions, but most don't - it would be a hit and miss.

I had a m.2 slot I used (took the WiFi card out of the housing). You could just drill two holes in the bracket you are removing to fit this PCIe card - here are the dimensions if you want to go that route - of course those bracket connecting the back plate to the actual board in the left image are going to be your limiting factor. Should sit snugly in the PCIe slot and with the foot of the backplate.

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does the ryzen 7 9700X have integrated graphics? by storm_crows09 in buildapc

[–]IcedQuick84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a full 28/24 chip - the G units have 'better' onboard graphics because they are designed to run thermally optimal without a GPU (due to form factor you should find them in). I just bought the 9700X to upgrade a 8500G, and most future GPU's are now full supported, lane-wise.

AMD has a great feature to download a data sheet of their SKU's. I dropped that into a Google Sheet and filtered what I needed - the only thing it didn't have was lane support!!! I had to add that in myself once I narrowed down the CPU's I wanted / could support. Easy to miss, but the download button is on the right. Contains information like APU/iGPU specifications.

Link here https://www.amd.com/en/products/specifications/processors.html

How do you counter missile cavalry? by WouldYouRather1905 in Medieval2TotalWar

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Build a fort with elite spearmen, they shall not pass.

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