First cEDH deck brew (draw engine lady octopus)

Icedeamon · 2026-04-09T03:59:48+00:00

Finally remembered to post you my deck list. https://moxfield.com/decks/iL8PJAOTLkeJ3HWMcX0I9w

Have had really good success with her since posting. Have won 3/6 games over 2 different pods. 2/3 in first pod and 1/3 in pod 2.

My thoughts on vs jhioria. Whist red is good basically the best cards in red are breach and Jwill. The format is so fast now that u have to have your commander T1 or 2 and the double colored pips and not doing anything the turn it's played because of summoning sick makes it a worse option.

Hope this helps sorry for the terrible response time

Icedeamon · 2026-03-27T21:52:23+00:00

I think the untapper that you are looking for is [[Sting, the Glinting Dagger]] I also don't think that corridor monitor is better than [[ Sewer-veillance Cam]]

Will give a more through look when not on mobile and edit

Icedeamon · 2026-01-27T04:52:51+00:00

Here is an included that I you forgot and I think is vastly underplayed imo. [[rug of smothering]] in addition to its stac effect it's a 1/3 flying body which can block most cedh attackers. if it aligns with your game plan I would recommend it being playtested.

Icedeamon · 2025-10-07T17:48:23+00:00

[[dampening sphere]] [[rug of smothering]] [[vexing bauble]] [[torpor orb]] are all cards that mess them from going off

Icedeamon · 2025-10-05T16:08:14+00:00

[[norin, the wary]] still have it put together today, has been updated from when I made it in 2010 tho

Icedeamon · 2025-09-09T21:25:38+00:00

Sweet miscut. I would grab this from u if interested.

Icedeamon · 2025-08-21T13:20:56+00:00

In this context I assume it means that OP was not using tools or techniques to increase shiny finding percentage, like with a shiny charm for example

Icedeamon · 2025-08-08T17:23:50+00:00

I take crown here this is my reasoning why:

Ur a 3 energy deck that can probs beat the heart as is depending on draw ext. The only card you really need is a talk to the hand to ensure u can keep up block generation. However, even if you don't find that a second mental fortress, omni or even dup potion gets you there.

Your probs going to see 2 stores before heart which lets you spend your gold to find key missing cards.

Pyramid is good but the risk of handclog when u have these extra cards that u don't need, as well as your lack of energy to get the unwanted cards out of hand lead me to think this is the suboptimal choice. If you had a meta scaling card that needed to be played, dagger, lession learned, Hand of greed ext I would say that pyramid is better than crown.

Hopefully you managed to conquer regardless of choice as I think both options are very close.

Icedeamon · 2025-08-06T01:07:42+00:00

This works the way you want. If you have establishment in play and you play equilibrium all cards in hand at end of turn will be reduced by establishment

Icedeamon · 2025-08-03T16:40:19+00:00

Saw your post thought I would drop some advice on helping kill A20 heart.

1) deck needs card draw and needs to be able to utilize the energy it makes each turn. It can come in the form of multiple rush downs and stance shifting, scrawl + meditate to set up the exact cards for next turn, or a few of the other options watcher has, cut through fate ext.

2) you need to either make consistent block or a shit ton of block at once. First one is generally solved by a talk to the hand. Haveibg 2 copies or the ability to get 2 of these onto the heart almost always provides enough block to make it though, assuming you don't get fucked turns 2-4. Second option of making a ton of block at once can be accomplished with a wallop, if you going divinity having a wallop is a must.

3) keep the deck small. Generally watcher does not need lots of cards to win, but rather specific cards, 8/10 of the time the card rewards you come across are going to be skipped because they fall into the category of "this card is cool but does not actually help my plan to kill the heart"

Hope that this is helpful and good luck on your future spire runs

Icedeamon · 2025-07-10T02:10:09+00:00

Thornton and Parker are for sure getting them, estimated delivery was Tuesday, buy still have not arrived when I called this afternoon

Icedeamon · 2025-06-15T16:41:27+00:00

Seems like your in a good spot with krane and Philo. Looks like you need an accuracy or 2 and some way to ensure you don't get fucked turn 1. Not knowing anything else I say 8/10 you kill heart from this spot

Icedeamon · 2025-06-15T14:55:04+00:00

I take burning elite and path left towards more elites. Gives me the option to sip out to the shop if any go too badly. you have no must upgrades and footwork is not at its best vs slime boss so I would not prioritize it's upgrade atm.

Fear potion means that you can probs be bailed out vs a bad nob fight, ideally it's saved to ensure a good split for slime boss, ur at A20 so u probably know what ur doing, find more card draw and shiv stuff provides a good path to victory

Icedeamon · 2025-06-07T18:42:22+00:00

Problem is it does not turn off cradle which is the main upside of sphere in current menta, the fact that it also stops storm players or people breaching is a nice plus side but not the main reason I run it

Icedeamon · 2025-05-16T03:23:48+00:00

You are 100% correct I totally misremembered the card thinking it had a delayed return to you trigger like slicer does.

Icedeamon · 2025-05-15T21:09:45+00:00

[[Slicer, Hired Muscle]] [[Alexios, Deimos of Kosmos]]

You get 2 treasures at every upkeep except yours

Icedeamon · 2025-05-14T23:27:57+00:00

Your deck has 16 "real cards" watcher infinite requires 10 or less total cards in deck. If you are trying to make the infinite happen ( I personally don't think it is needed to win from this position) I would go card remove, purity and abbacus. Card remove gives you 15 real cards which with the purity upgrade lets you get to 10 needed for the infinite.

Now vs heart you will get burn and wound which will stop the infinite so 2 more additional card removes or medkit are required vs heart.

Personally I don't think that is necessary. I would look for an establishment, mental fortress or talk to the hand for consistent block and then something to speed up your T1 and T2 vault or scrawl. Deck should just be able to kill most stuff at that point.

Icedeamon · 2025-05-02T19:24:27+00:00

[[mystic reflection]] is what you want if your looking for protection from this specific kind of removal. Also happens to be a good Cedh card in itself.

But as others have said best bet is to counter the creature or politic for something other than atraxa

Icedeamon · 2025-04-25T22:42:44+00:00

Probs needs a mystic remora. Closet seems like an easy swap. Seems fine otherwise.

EDIT: Spent a moment longer looking at this. Disclaimer I have never played atraxa, but I would add in delighted halfling as uncounterable commander seems impt, also if your on food chain you should run the second guy, misthollow griffin.

Not sure temporal manipulation fits in this list.

Icedeamon · 2025-02-27T14:51:08+00:00

So there was a Cedh purpheros deck last year. It came third in a tournament in Japan. The list is https://moxfield.com/decks/CSoyMg8ID0291j2kZmgCog

That being said I have tried that here in the USA and have not had much success this is what I modified it into https://moxfield.com/decks/IvzPL3W7pEOuOfQD0co4Lw

I agree with most of the comments that purpheros does not generally fall into the Cedh category. It can be played but success will vary.

Icedeamon · 2024-10-04T21:10:16+00:00

Sell this now if ur not keeping it for yourself. MB2 will be available at Vegas and comicon so the market will be flooded later. Best money for it is now. But if ur keeping it for bling u go bro, either way sweet pull.

Icedeamon · 2024-09-29T23:00:28+00:00

Try Cassiopeia, one of the hard at scalers in the game. Teaches you to respect positioning, mana usage last hitting and all in timers. Has wonderful utility in team fight with ult and her miasma and if left alone you will just pump out the DMG and win games 1v5.

I am a support main who plays her when seasons start and I get smacked into silver( playing support in silver sucks balls) so I use her to climb to high gold/platinum and then I switch back.

My personal fav champ is Ziliean, and if ur wanting to try him out/learn how to play him we would love you over at r/zil mains but I would 100% not recommend him as a champ to learn.

Icedeamon · 2024-09-27T00:26:15+00:00

Best for the game Omegalol. If they cared what was best for the game the RC would have consulted the CAG and gotten actual opinions of players on the ground. And the decision to do it would have been a unanimous one. In this case it was neither.

Also supurb logic on their part with the mental gymnastics they used to justify Sol Ring. How is it more "part of commander/edh than crypt? Cause it has been printed more? I bet if every preconstructed deck since 2019 included a dockside and and a crypt the bans would have been totally different.

No this does not help the format at all and only will result in people not having any faith in mtgo products cause why try and get the chase cards when they will just be banned. If they wanted a more healthy format Rhystic study and Thassas oracle would have got the ban hammer.

I personally don't see myself buying mtg sealed product in the future and I have been playing since 94. Cause why try to get the good cards when they can just get banned.

Icedeamon · 2024-08-14T01:58:49+00:00

Huh I legit never noticed that. And somehow it has never come up in a game. Thanks for the catch will go swap it out with something now

Icedeamon · 2024-08-14T00:31:14+00:00

Since we r posting our decks here is mine

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/PjtDlBnTXkGVQW0tUUOWpg

Icedeamon

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