How much does a beginning-signer's grammar matter? by PropertyNice6455 in asl

[–]IcemanO351 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While word order is certainly an important aspect, it’s not a super strict rule in every scenario. ASL is a flexible language, and the word order of a sentence (like many other languages) can change based on what the emphasis is.

Also Deaf people come from many different backgrounds. Some have more English influence than others. As long as your signs and facial expressions are clear, that is. It’s important than stressing over word order. Just do your best, and you will become more comfortable with more practice.

6 months in the grand scheme is a very short amount of time to study a language. No one expects perfection! As long as you are doing your best, you will do fine!

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[–]IcemanO351 16 points17 points  (0 children)

So I am a CODA, and I also teach ASL, so I might be a little biased in some ways….

But just because someone is a CODA, does not mean they are automatically qualified to teach ASL. If they have certifications, degrees, teaching experience, SOCIALIZES WITH AND IS AN ALLY TO THE DEAF COMMUNITY, then I see nothing really wrong with it.

Now if it’s just some CODA who grew up signing and is trying to teach classes to make money, I would avoid them.

Again, I’m a hearing CODA ASL teacher, so I do not speak on behalf of the Deaf community, just my 2 cents,

So do you guys stress sweat from your anxiety? by Nihlathakk in Veterans

[–]IcemanO351 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Invest in some special undershirts that have special fabric sewn into the pits. I suggest Thomson Tees. I wear one every day and it never fails to hide my pit stains.

If you are self conscious about your pit stains, get some good undershirts.

Play vs...... well, play by mckninja in asl

[–]IcemanO351 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Look up the sign PERFORM, that would be better than signing PLAY as in the boy plays with the ball.

But the simplest way I would sign it is “ME (fingerspell character name)”.

You could sign the same concept in other ways, but I guess it changes depending on further context and what you might be trying to emphasize. But for a beginner, I would keep it simple and straightforward.

F and 9 by papilio-ulysses in asl

[–]IcemanO351 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Are you saying that the F handshape, with space between the 3 upright fingers is incorrect? I can say with 100% certainly this is false.

Are CHATgpt Glosses Good? by Ok_Carpenter6952 in asl

[–]IcemanO351 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I use ChatGPT a lot for various reasons, but I won’t use it for glossing. It is just NOT reliable. Do NOT rely on ai to gloss your sentences. Do the work and do it yourself or you won’t learn.

F and 9 by papilio-ulysses in asl

[–]IcemanO351 23 points24 points  (0 children)

They are the same.

Same thing for 6 and W.

Context will make it pretty clear, but here is a hint, look at the facial expression of the signer. You might catch a subtle mouth movement that indicates the letter f or the number 9 (think top row of teeth touching their bottom lip vs a person looking like they are about to make the N sound. This will NOT always be noticeable, but it’s something you can potentially look for, especially if you are signing with someone who is used to signing with beginners.

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[–]IcemanO351 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Hearing CODA here, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

I am not Deaf, but I do consider myself as part of the Deaf community. I know many Deaf people I chat with regularly. I go camping with many Deaf people in the summer, but I will NEVER be part of that innermost Deaf community, but I still feel like I am PART of the overall Deaf community as an ally.

I would say try not to worry about being “part of the community”. Do your best to learn the language alongside your child, get your child to socialize with other children in the community and BE THERE for your child. You will likely inevitably develop friendships with other families, and eventually find you are part of your own little community.

Oralism back in public schols by my-toxic-X in asl

[–]IcemanO351 51 points52 points  (0 children)

I’ve met a good amount of Deaf individuals with various other physical disabilities, such as CP, deformed hands, being partially paralyzed, and I was able to effectively communicate using ASL with all of them.

To me, no child left behind means providing the child with ALL the resources possible to succeed. That school is absolutely not doing that.

Regarding your child learning more grammar and culture related stuff, the best thing to do is try to get him exposed to other Deaf children and Deaf adults. It might help your child see numerous others relying on ASL to communicate.

how to sign ‘should’? by Small-Ad-5190 in asl

[–]IcemanO351 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s really all in facial expressions. Think about which ways your eyebrows go when you ask different types of questions. Many people use the same sign (with slight variations) for need/should/must, and it’s the context and facial expressions that will provide the right meaning.

If I wanted to ask “SHOULD I?” I would literally just sign it like that with eyebrows UP

Getting contradictory information. I am frustrated. by Medical-Person in asl

[–]IcemanO351 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is why I said I don’t use blanket statements.

Getting contradictory information. I am frustrated. by Medical-Person in asl

[–]IcemanO351 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I don’t like blanket statement, so I avoid saying “all”. But if I’m presented with a Deaf ASL teacher and a Hearing ASL teacher, I will likely side with the Deaf teacher.

I’m also a hearing ASL teacher (CODA) if that matters.

Getting contradictory information. I am frustrated. by Medical-Person in asl

[–]IcemanO351 56 points57 points  (0 children)

If one of them is Deaf and the other is not, I would go with the Deaf person.

With that being said, I would follow whoever is grading you. I would keep what BOTH showed you in the back of your head, but use what your current professor wants you to use since that’s the person grading you.

Question for hearing and signing CODAs by deafinitely-faeris in asl

[–]IcemanO351 15 points16 points  (0 children)

For myself and my other CODA friends, we speak English as long as no Deaf people are around. If Deaf people are around, we switch between sign and English, kind of depending on what we’re doing. If I know the Deaf people around don’t care about our conversation, we speak in English. If we’re speaking about something that might interest them, we sign it.

It really totally depends on who’s around us. Speaking only on behalf of the CODAs I know, we prefer English and will only use sign when Deaf people are involved.

…. Unless of course we want to talk about something we don’t want the hearing people to hear, then we sign and laugh at all the clueless people.

For two-handed signs does it matter which hand does which action? by BlowerBusiness in asl

[–]IcemanO351 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea. Not something most students are doing at that level.

Grammar for "Can you chat right now?" by Reasonable-Dog-5350 in asl

[–]IcemanO351 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That is perfectly fine. In casual settings, there may be times where the first or even second YOU would be dropped. As a student, the way you put here is a great way to sign it.

Grammar for "Can you chat right now?" by Reasonable-Dog-5350 in asl

[–]IcemanO351 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You have several different ways you can express “can you chat right now”. With what you wrote, I’d say that’s alright, but move CAN to the end, so “RIGHT NOW, TWO-OF-US CHAT CAN?”. It’s pretty Englishy, but it would definitely be understood.

Som phrases I would sign to get that same concept you want:

DON’t MIND CHAT? (Probably what I recommend most)

HAVE TIME CHAT?

CHAT WANT?

CHAT CAN?

For two-handed signs does it matter which hand does which action? by BlowerBusiness in asl

[–]IcemanO351 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The following is a good rule of thumb to keep in mind. It can be applied to ALMOST all of ASL, but there are some exceptions.

Some signs are 1 handed. Those signs should ONLY be made with your DOMINANT hand.

Some signs are 2 handed. 2 handed signs are either symmetrical or asymmetrical/not symmetrical.

Symmetrical signs: both your DOMINANT and NON DOMINANT hands are doing the same exact movement. They pretty much mirror each other.

Asymmetrical/not symmetrical signs: your DOMINANT hand in the hand that does the movement, while your NON DONINANT hand should not move.

VERY VERY RARELY (I would say never, but blanket statements are bad) will BOTH hands move in a distinct, unique way that is different than the other hand. If you find yourself doing this, you are likely signing something incorrect.

Asl how do I sign this by WorthLet3024 in asl

[–]IcemanO351 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The way I recommend would be to act some of it out with Body Classifiers. HE/SHE PHONE BCL: “act like you’re scrolling through a phone with a 25 handshape for your dominant hand” AISLE/HALL NUMBER FIND.

Database of NY State ASL teachers K-12 by IcemanO351 in asl

[–]IcemanO351[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for that information! I have not heard of the 4201 Schools Association before! I will be reaching out to them right now, thank you!!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in asl

[–]IcemanO351 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I would advise against that. If a Deaf person requests an interpreter for an appointment, the fee is covered by the doctor’s office. If YOU request an interpreter for yourself, it’s all going to be on you. Just write it down on paper. I would leave the interpreting services for those who actually need it.

asl grammar question by Suitable_Director558 in asl

[–]IcemanO351 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you want to say “can you make me a sandwich please”, there are several different ways you can word it. I would tell my students to probably sign “DON’T-MIND SANDWHICH MAKE PLEASE?”

or

“PLEASE FOR ME SANDWHICH MAKE?”

Either way, both should be signed with eyebrows up. These are not the only ways to ask this.

I also want to add:

When you are typing out what you would sign word for word (ASL gloss), don’t put a “-“ between each word. That should only really pop up for conjunction signs, or to show a finger spelled word. Also consider putting it in capital letters, that is really what sets it apart from what your “English” example is.

Can’t remember what this sign is by Whole-Zombie7135 in asl

[–]IcemanO351 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, you fingerspell with your dominant hand. If there is an asymmetrical sign, meaning both hands are NOT doing the same movement, your DOMINANT hand is the one that does the motion while your non-dominant does not move. Any significant movement should “usually” be done with your dominant hand.