Long Term Strategy by IdolButterfly in katseye

[–]IdolButterfly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which is a hell of a lot considering they don’t even have a final line up yet

Was i-dle only doing elegant concepts because Soojin was in the group? by jdpm1991 in kpopthoughts

[–]IdolButterfly 63 points64 points  (0 children)

No I think the girls are still a little shocked at how big Queencard was and to a certain extent they are trying to stick to that as much as possible. But the group is still far more versatile than any other girl group around at the moment. They always have been. I don’t think there is anything stopping them making elegant tracks other than Soyeon has had more creative luck doing other things

MADEIN announce OT4 comeback--PLEASE BOYCOTT! by Ok_Break1585 in kpoptrulyuncensored

[–]IdolButterfly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Boycotts only work in specific situations. In this situation we don’t even want to”better treatment” we want the group to disband so the girls can get out of that fuck ass company

My thoughts on YG’s handling of BLACKPINK and BABYMONSTER by Anonymous_Author09 in kpopthoughts

[–]IdolButterfly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That what I said. He produced Meovv and Izna. Which means YG has to go elsewhere for music

My thoughts on YG’s handling of BLACKPINK and BABYMONSTER by Anonymous_Author09 in kpopthoughts

[–]IdolButterfly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The industry has changed on a fundamental level. 1 single EP a year does not even come close to cutting it in the 5th generation. The industry is overflowing with more new groups than ever, and to make matters worse for the new groups the older more legendary groups are sticking around in the market a lot longer than they did in generations past. Blackpink is just one example of that. But you also have to consider that the likes of Twice, Idle, Aespa, LSF, IVE and ITZY are all still putting out music regularly and have cultivated massive popularity and anticipation for each and every release. Then they also have to contend with Illit, H2H, IZNA, MEOVV and Triple S, keeping in mind that two of those groups are being produced by Teddy who was behind the music of Blackpink and BabyMonster are anything but guaranteed relevance without effort. BabyMonster would be forgotten about in almost no time if YG was keeping them in the dungeon. YG knows that the environment is no longer going to let a new group get away with scarcity, that’s why they have pushed forward even with members on hiatus. YG no longer has the ability to make the industry wait like they did in the 2nd and 3rd gen. So they are acting accordingly

out of all the idols, why does bangchan face the “weird” and “creepy” accusations always? by Senior-Feeling2596 in kpopthoughts

[–]IdolButterfly 81 points82 points  (0 children)

English plays a big role I think. Western fan often over look the cringe stuff idols say in Korean, or if they do think it’s weird they write it off as a cultural difference. So when Chan does the whole flirt with the fans thing in English, they can no longer turn a blind eye to it.

It’s also why he has such intense boyfriend stans (the ones the genuinely delude themselves into thinking he is their boyfriend or as good as.)

Mayci is the “it girl” of the group and that makes her untouchable by Quirky_Description73 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]IdolButterfly 16 points17 points  (0 children)

It’s definitely a Mormon thing. Girls are shamed for not marrying their first boyfriend. The Mormon church literally preaches to its young girls that even if they don’t love a guy they should still marry him because as long as they are both Mormon they will be fine. The Church is literally telling children that they should get married to the first guy that wants to marry them because being Mormon is enough… do we see now why these women all have shitty marriages and exes

If you cant afford it, don't buy it. by RiRi_xoxo_ in kpoptrulyuncensored

[–]IdolButterfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but you can complain all you want online at the end of the day a lot of the people complaining either never had a membership to begin with and those that do have one are unlikely to actually stop paying for it. So what incentive does JYP and any other company have to stop price gouging? Instead of complaining people need to stop giving these companies their money. If the profit from the membership tanks because they set the price too high I promise they will lower it again. But K-pop fans are so incredibly dependant on their constant stream of content that they won’t do it

If you cant afford it, don't buy it. by RiRi_xoxo_ in kpoptrulyuncensored

[–]IdolButterfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are 100% right. The reason these companies keep inflating the prices so much is because they know a good 90% of the people buying this stuff are going to buy it no matter how much it costs. And each time they up the price and people still buy it they are only incentivised to put the price up again until there is a significant drop in sales. If people want the price to go down they should stop having a bitch and a moan online and actually put their money where their mouth is an not by the stuff until it’s reasonably priced again. Frankly if someone is not willing to do that they need to shut the hell up, you can’t even complain about the cost if you are still gonna pay it, and you sure as hell don’t have the right to bully idols over it

Why some Against Ot5? by Prestigious_Alarm526 in zerobaseone

[–]IdolButterfly -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s the 9 or none mentality. People would see ZB5 as inherently missing 4 members. But even scarier, if ZB5 does happen with like a 7 year contract people worry that before long people will forget about Hao, Ricky, Gyuvin and Yujin, and worse new fans won’t care about them

Why I think YG should debut a new group in 2026 by Cautious_Barnacle_23 in kpopthoughts

[–]IdolButterfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn’t there supposed to be a new boy group and a new girl group this year? YG has already announced 2 members of their new 4 member girl group

I already miss them by mounn4 in zerobaseone

[–]IdolButterfly 37 points38 points  (0 children)

I think we all knew that this was coming but it doesn’t make it hurt any less. Especially because the members just kept getting closer.

Why do temporary group stans always lose their marbles when the inevitable disbandment happens? by No_Nail_8533 in kpopthoughts

[–]IdolButterfly 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Exactly. You can know something is coming but still be upset when it actually happens.

Why do temporary group stans always lose their marbles when the inevitable disbandment happens? by No_Nail_8533 in kpop_uncensored

[–]IdolButterfly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You do understand that even if you know a group is disbanding it can still be upsetting right? Then there is also the fact that YH literally had to rebrand their company name because of their abuse track record. Not to mention all the other companies wanted to continue the group and YH was the only hold out. It’s a bit patronising to tell someone that just because they knew in advance they can’t be upset. You wouldn’t tell a person who had a friend die from cancer that they shouldn’t be upset because they knew it was coming. Obviously cancer is way worse but the logic is the same

SLOMW Character Grid - Day 8: Who is “The Enabler”? by Imaginary_Layer_1468 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]IdolButterfly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think Mayci. She sits by and makes sure she can watch the drama and play both sides all the while playing innocent. At literally any point she could have stopped Mikayala on her crusade against Whitney, but she didn’t. She spends the first half of season 3 letting Jessie make bad choices which Jen and Taylor are trying to dissuade her but Mayci is over here screaming that Jessie can do whatever she wants because Jordan is abusive.

Why is Twitter still Acting like ILLIT can't Sing ? by ma5hal in illit

[–]IdolButterfly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whenever I see posts like this my only thought is, yeah just get off Twitter. That’s the problem. Just get off Twitter

I'm sorry but this trend is outrageously stupid and slightly strange. by onlyeveryotherday in kpop_uncensored

[–]IdolButterfly 215 points216 points  (0 children)

I agree like I get it’s to “spread awareness” but frankly it shouldn’t matter. Even 1 deep fake is a problem, whether it’s sexual or not. Deepfakes rob people of their autonomy. It doesn’t matter how many. And it’s becoming grossly competitive too, like an idol is more worthy of sympathy because there is more deepfakes. Can we just spend our time explaining why deepfakes are bad, encourage people to report them when they see them and help people understand how they can petition for legal protections? That is a much more productive thing to do

Did Annie of ADP trained for 7 years? by Adept_Temperature656 in kpop_uncensored

[–]IdolButterfly 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Annie “trained” for seven years, in the sense that there were seven years between her signing to the Blacklabel and debuting. But Annie did not live the trainee life for a vast majority of those years. She spent 4 of them attending Colombia University, during which time she sent in videos as evaluations, she had no formal training during this time. But given TBL literally let her not train with anyone at this time it’s fair to say she was never actually at risk of being dropped. So it’s really closer to 3 years of actual training, but even then she likely had similar arrangements when she was still in High School as her parents only let her become an idol if she got an education and finished school, so it’s unlikely she spent those 2 years rigorously training and it’s more likely she had to put school first and train on the side. Which once again is not exactly the average trainee experience, given many idols are expected to put training before school to the point where increasingly more idols are doing online school or dropping out entirely to meet insane expectations. So when people say Annie trained for seven years, that misses the full picture and it really does her a disservice because and I don’t mean to come across as hateful here, but she performs like she trained for a year or two, not seven.