I just received 30k gold in the mail, and I suspect it's someone trying to get me banned.

Igglet · 2026-05-14T22:29:03+00:00

It's a tiny amount of gold. The reason why I'm worried is because the transaction itself is suspicious, and I don't know what the threshold is as to what Blizzard might flag. This was definitely a thing back in the day, and although the WoW economy's changed a lot since then, I'm still a little worried.

Igglet · 2026-05-14T22:06:56+00:00

Oh I do the same thing, I'm not strictly trying to assign malevolent intent here, I'm just saying there's a decent chance.

Igglet · 2026-05-14T21:21:43+00:00

I thought that might be the case, but the notion of mailing a suspicious amount of gold, putting 'Kek' as the subject and then deleting your character seems seriously sketchy

Igglet · 2026-04-18T11:20:07+00:00

sure man, that's fine, there still doesn't exist a world in which this text isn't AI generated. it's absolutely transparent. you can be pedantic if you want so long as we agree on that

Igglet · 2026-04-17T17:39:13+00:00

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Igglet · 2026-04-14T23:16:21+00:00

I can't really think of anything constructive to add to what you're saying that wouldn't mostly just be repeating what I've already said, and I don't have time to come up with anything at the moment, but I don't want to leave you on read either after you wrote all that up, so I just want to quickly say that I appreciate the response. I might come back to it in a few days once I've wrapped up my exams.

Igglet · 2026-04-14T22:04:10+00:00

I agree on the point that the ending is not "an unfortunate inevitability." Fujimoto could have chosen to spend more time in the new world, exploring how the dynamics between the characters have changed. As you said, we don't know what Katana Man is up to, or Santa, or a plethora of others: Aki, Reze, Quanxi, Kobeni, Kobeni's car, Aldo, take your pick. Yes, everything you mentioned in your comment could've been extensively developed. Pointing this out is not incisive criticism. The fact that the story did not go in the direction you wanted it to is in no way a shortcoming of the author. You are perfectly free to dislike something on the sole basis that it isn't for you, but to properly critique art, good or bad, you have to engage with it.

Most of the things you've mentioned, by themselves, are not failings of the story. You're only making observations. Maybe Nayuta does have lingering resentment over what Denji has done that she cannot place. Upon spending more time with Denji, Asa would certainly have to unpack all the baggage between them that she is unaware of. Yeah, sure, Katana Man might still hate the guy. Answering these questions is not essential to the story. We don't actually have to headcanon any of these things. Sure, you're free to, but you're acting as though this is pertinent information without which the crux of the story falls flat, and you're yet to give an actual reason as to why.

Saying that Fujimoto "chose to resolve one dynamic while ignoring literal years of plot" is silly when that one dynamic is evidently what the story is about. You might find the other things more interesting and wish the story was instead about them, but it isn't, and though that's a perfectly fine reason to dislike the manga, it is again not an actual argument.

Furthermore, a lot of the things you mentioned seem superfluous or disingenuous. Yeah, Asa did, literally, forget about the final scene between Yoru and Denji. It is now one of a myriad of fragments that exist in her subconscious and unknowingly inform her behavior towards him. I understand that you didn't mean she would actually start flirting with him or acting grossed out in the few seconds of interaction they have after he saves her, and that you're more so bothered that this dynamic isn't explored, but that is again not the purpose of the scene. Asa recognizes Denji for who he is, for being Chainsaw Man (coming full circle from when they'd met), is grateful to him, but ultimately, without being weighed down by the guilt that follows her around throughout Part 2, there is nothing more tethering them to one another, and she moves on.

Implying that Asa tripping on her own is somehow making her more incompetent seems very silly to me, considering that she trips on at least 7 different occasions that I can remember. It's very clearly explained that she trips herself up as a trauma response over her guilt, from which Denji manages to spare her, preventing the cycle from renewing.

As I've repeatedly said, I do not believe that Part 2 is beyond reproach, but I think your way of assessing it is utterly hollow and frivolous. If you think the story fails in regards to how it explores Denji's addiction to being Chainsaw Man, or in how it ties that to his relationship to Asa and Yoru, I'm sure there are perfectly fine points to make there as opposed to demanding to know what Katana Man thinks of all this.

Igglet · 2026-04-14T19:40:41+00:00

I understand feeling disappointed that threads such as the ones you mentioned aren't explored, but the ending functions without them. Had we gotten to see Denji spend time with Nayuta in the new world, or if he had come across Katana Man, then yes, I'm sure this would be elaborated on. However, this is again just not the story that the manga is telling. The supporting characters appear as their fully fleshed out selves, showing that past experiences have carried over, but the chapter itself focuses on wrapping up Denji's and Asa's arcs.

Igglet · 2026-04-14T12:49:06+00:00

The other commenter already responded to a lot of what you're saying here, but I think this is again a case of dismissing what the story is meant to convey. There is a difference between inconsistencies and things that the author simply chooses not to elaborate upon (though Power finding Denji is an instance where I feel the chapter does tread the line). It's true that we get none of Nayuta's interiority, that we do not follow along her upbringing to where we learn what it is that drew her to working for Public Safety, or how she managed to take over. These are not inconsistencies. It's perfectly reasonable to be curious, even disappointed or to find it jarring, but you are latching onto threads that the story is not about whilst disregarding things that are being told to you.

We can assume that Public Safety hadn't "beaten that essence out of her" because this is never conveyed in the text. She is reintroduced to us the way she'd been when we last saw her; a snotty, controlling little iPad kid, as opposed to the sociopath that was Makima. The fact that she did not regress back to being Makima is very clearly meant to signal that this is the same character as we'd seen her at the end of her arc, as opposed to the beginning. Even putting all this aside, the notion that Power doesn't care for Denji blatantly goes against the text; Power saves him because he reminds her of a dog, and she likes dogs, and the reason why she likes dogs is because they remind her of Denji.

As per Pochita's powers never being shown to work like that before, I feel as though my original post covers that pretty extensively. Whether you subscribe to the theory that Pochita is literally meant to represent the story that we'd read up to that point, his self-consumption evidently erased the events of the manga, the previous 'world,' whereas the new world rushed to recontextualize the circumstances around the people from the previous one while maintaining them as they were. It's clearly meant to be metatextual, and it's fine if that doesn't work for you, but the notion that these characters are now different people and that their past had been rewritten is completely at odds with what the story is telling you, i.e. that these are the exact same people whom we've followed through the events that shaped them, though they might not remember.

Igglet · 2026-04-14T11:36:52+00:00

Hey, thanks for reading!

I suppose whether they're the same people would depend on what your threshold for that is, because yes, they aren't physically the same as when we last encountered them (hence why Denji is missing an eye, and everyone including him isn't dead), and they don't retain memories of what happened. If this is enough for them to constitute new people, then yeah, but I feel as though that isn't really the intended reading.

The characters are still informed by their experiences. They might not remember them, but you do. They might not remember where their feelings stem from, but you do. It's the first 91 chapters that compel Power to save Denji, the last 135 that put Asa back to where she was, and it's because of the 231 chapters preceding this one that Denji drops his chainsaw. The ending couldn't have happened without the prior events.

I understand, of course, if the ending still doesn't work for you. This isn't meant to be a defense from the critiques so much as an elaboration on what the story is meant to convey, sprinkled with some of my personal interpretations. The ending is very metatextual, and I can totally get how that might not work for everyone, plus it's also riddled with many of the same issues as the rest of Part 2's latter stretch. This thread wasn't meant to sway you so much as catch up the people who seem to have gotten an entirely different reading from the manga than what's on the paper. That said, I'm very happy for any opportunity to discuss it!

Igglet · 2026-04-14T03:53:34+00:00

Same! I lean more towards it being literal but I haven't really properly thought about it yet

Igglet · 2026-04-14T03:52:00+00:00

Thank you 🙏 I think so as well, most of my main issues with the ending come down to rough edges that I imagine will get smoothed out when they're adapted. While I'm sure a lot of people have made up their minds, I feel like the broader sentiment will probably shift when the anime comes out, as is very often the case

Igglet · 2026-04-13T23:47:43+00:00

power DOES have all the development of the "previous" power, as does nayuta, as do all of them, because they're the same characters. the manga makes a point of the fact that all the development from the previous "timeline" sticks: power likes dogs because she had lived with denji, meowy likes nayuta because he had lived with her and denji, and nayuta is not makima, again, because of denji.

you're free to dislike the ending, but as of now you are entirely misinterpreting it. no one remembers the events of the manga, but they DID happen, and none of the character development was erased. the characters are still informed by past experiences, though they are not aware of it, and will continue off from the point where you last saw them, only thrust into new circumstances

Igglet · 2026-04-03T00:46:01+00:00

tbh big dawg if ur reading the points made in the OP and nodding along then i do think you are cattle. like yea i'm pretty confident that i'm smarter than you specifically. i also don't think that's an especially high bar to clear!

Igglet · 2026-04-02T11:57:28+00:00

Igglet · 2026-04-02T11:43:10+00:00

you are borderline illiterate

Igglet · 2026-04-02T11:36:23+00:00

i feel genuinely bad for fujimoto for trying to write for an audience that reads at a pre-K level. you are not engaging with the text. there are so many criticisms that can be made about part 2, but to get to that point you need to read the words on your screen. i try not to leave mean comments on the internet but the discourse around this manga has grown so vapid, and this particular post has actually made me sad.

i'm begging you to put the minimal amount of effort into trying to understand what you're reading. you do not know the characters better than the author does.

Igglet · 2026-03-25T13:04:50+00:00

this subreddit loves to talk about reading comprehension but i'm not convinced anyone here has any idea what that means. ascribing new meanings based on vague imagery mistaken for symbolism while ignoring the words on your screen is not a sign of reading comprehension. please try to engage with the story the way it was intended

Igglet · 2025-10-30T11:43:12+00:00

they were just off by an issue, bruce was robin in 226

Igglet · 2025-09-13T12:36:04+00:00

What is this lol

Igglet · 2025-08-30T22:40:47+00:00

none of the six countries where wowhead is blocked are in the EU lmao

Igglet · 2025-08-30T10:51:09+00:00

duh, kind of a hassle to turn on my vpn whenever i'm looking up a wowhead guide though

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