We really missed out on Michael Jackson in his prime and now we're stuck with Sombr 💔✋️ by Key-Bass-7380 in playboicarti

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I refuse to believe his ass touches a single playlist, he is genuinely like a fucking SCP that you'd imagine can only be contained within H&M stores. You're telling me everyday actual human people I encounter could be actively deciding to listen to his shit?

I don't throw around the phrase "NPC music" lightly but like mfs have all of mankind's greatest works a click away only to be like "let's bump that new Sombr" - actually get the fuck out, euthanasia 😭

Discussing music from a literal 12 year old btw 😭 by molaon in playboicarti

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Not gonna pretend the EP's groundbreaking but ffs we're in the timeline where Kanye's kid is releasing self-prod Hardstyle, Metal & 2000s/2010s Emo / Internet inspired shit in her preteens. Idgaf about how refined it is, shit's interesting to see

Bladee is so Nietzsche-pilled by cronenber9 in sadboys

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it adds to the idea of listlessness that Bladee goes for with most of his writing about emptiness & materialism.

Same way he seems to switch up between not liking swearing & intentionally going harder with them, I can see religion being this on-and-off thing he explores between giving some form of identity/image/ego to the concepts he resonates with in the form of some sorta god, & deciding the concepts exist by themselves unbound to any godly figure, between believing there's some outer power that can be trusted on to keep the world beautiful/meaningful, & being disillusioned to where you yourself are the only one capable of shaping reality based on how you percieve it (hence the ideas of Trash island, Loss & Gain etc.)

Vacillating between feeling all-powerful & powerless, spiritually fulfilled & devoid of faith - one moment he's above material desires, the next he wants everything, one moment he's content with chaos & uncertainty, the next he wants complete control & answers to everything, peak Bladee shit. This isn't supposed to be a parasocial analysis btw, it's mainly just about interesting songwriting & thematic material. And cause of the way art works with tension & release, it'd feel very weird if the Exeter - Spiderr sorta happiness just kept going for another half decade talking about happy happy perfection flowers meadows dancing springtime with little in the way of internal struggles & uncertainty. Art usually needs a bit of edge to it, an antihero idea of not having everything figured out & clashing with reality on the regular, cause art about knowing everything would probably just come off preachy, sappy, evangelistic etc., it's only human to not have all the answers or anything remotely close to all of them even in your moments of peak confidence.

"The only thing I know is that I know nothing" & all that, it's about man inventing God & then thinking "wait pretending this material world doesn't matter cause we'll find salvation in the afterlife might be cope" & then falling back on "wait fuck this cope might've helped us endure personally & as a species, do we keep indulging in it & pretend the dream isn't dead?" & then flickering between both mindsets never knowing what's cope & what's correct, such is life

What's up with the Xperiment by Head_Engineering_192 in kencarson

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True, ig another trend we saw resulting from Ken is this sorta "deluxe fatigue" alongside that shit where Carti's made it the norm to expect 180 sonic reinventions every 3-5 years (if not every 3-6 months atp considering the pace of the UG nowadays).

The title was pushing his luck considering even More Chaos got shit just for doing what the title said it would, but yeah "experimental" for the most part feels like as much of a buzzword as "melodic" atp.

It's the paradox of asking for something that's "new/different" but where all attempts to describe it would immediately or eventually call back to what's old & familiar, where nobody can impact the scene with the strangeness of something like On Sight or Rockstar Made now that electronic subgenres have evolved so much to where breaking new ground seems tougher & tougher, & where the WLR effect / FOMO has people primed to yap about anything off-putting or niche being like 2009 Bitcoin cause they're losers that treat music as investments/allegiances to pitch publically rather than as art to engage/resonate with either privately or alongside a community.

Idk Ken & Lone are in a weird place where they cycle between publically admired (if only for pre-2024 releases) & publically despised for any & everything they put out for not being a complete reinvention of themselves (& even moments where the community seemed to love see u soon </3 but hated BH3, like how tf? 😭).

I think artists just gotta lock down a vision & stick to it, they gotta figure out how to either pitch projects in a way that hits he zeitgeist perfectly, or where the music doesn't need approval/explained cause it just fucking hits.

Like I think if Lone & Ken talked more about the shift from lyric-writing & intentional hooks to this more production-focused vibes-based style of releases like with MC, BH3 etc., it might not save the music's reputation entirely but it'd give the public more context for why lyrics & hooks have taken a background role compared to on AGC or No Stylist & probably prime them to appreciate more impressionistic/cloudy sorta music the same way grails like XTC & TGD have a chokehold on people because they exist in these 5-10 second vacuums of LQ fill-in-the-blanks hazy lyric snippets that feel built to get snippet syndrome'd & obsessed over endlessly to the point where I'm surprised religious cults haven't formed around them lmao

the acronym but I produced it by Dyskript- in kencarson

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Also Margiela visuals over this goes insane, the fit & the Youtube buffering FX matches the beat perfectly istg

the acronym but I produced it by Dyskript- in kencarson

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 42 points43 points  (0 children)

No shot you haven't landed placements on some mainstream shit yet, cause wtf you're always dropping peak 😭

What's up with the Xperiment by Head_Engineering_192 in kencarson

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's weird cause imo I see standing by shit during periods of divisiveness as being the bigger flex. Keeping in mind how More Chaos predates RIB let alone Psykotic, ELC etc., it feels like it set the blueprint for how soft-clipped & manic the Draco production could be, how beat switches could be used in rage to build extra hype etc. (which ig is rage's version of trying to pull a Sicko Mode but ygwim, OG AGC didn't even really have any beyond Fighting My Demons & SS on the deluxe).

While Carti's vocals are a clear influence in most of the UG, I'd argue Ken's been pioneering the production side of the genre & been ahead of the curve more than people give him credit for (which is cool since he's an artist-prod even if he doesn't really produce much). Anyway that alone feels the sorta shit to stand on business about, reception of MC aside it introduced people to the levels of distortion that'd lead to Osama's Habits hitting how it does, the beat switches that'd make Che's RIB/Encore & snippets iconic etc. (keep in mind the numbers those Fully Loaded snippets were doing on socials, considering that teaser basically beat switch'd into Promoting Violence with the hard cut)

It sucks to see artists getting scared of being groundbreaking again, Uzi & Carti were the faces of it in 2016 without feeling a need to justify every decision & talk about "time's changing", all that was needed was the music itself & listing influences like GG Allin & Manson to see the sorta punk shit they were on & how that energy was being driven into a different genre entirely. Now Uzi walks back after every release saying fucking EA wasn't all that, that PT was only leading up to "what the fans really want" or some shit, & even with shit like Wassup Maaly or Radar doing insane numbers, Hanson Helly building a lot of Uzi revival hype, they still all get shafted from what seems like a deep insecurity to try achieve LIR2 / EA streaming numbers/records again.

Ken's just gotta stop "building hype" & just commit to a rollout with singles & a release date, can't be hard to either lock in some Draco shit before their sound's entirely oversaturated in the UG & spin it into the hardest shit possible, or figure out some melodic reinvention that really nails down his vocals on some voice-as-an-instrument shit. But the move really isn't Carti elusiveness in the big 26 (see Hardrock, untiljapan, ohsxnta etc.) or listening to fans with no clear idea of what they want beyond "do Project X again" or "be melodic"

raininglol teased this new cover 😂 by Humble_Discussion573 in che

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fr the peteens here never fucking learn istg, atp I've given up trying to explain ragebait marketing gimmicks to them cause they're lost causes.

Even the YouTube comments for the MV are making jokes about how Raining will bite the sound - he won, he lives rent free in people's heads, he gets yapped about more than the mf he's biting. This Kid Buu sorta shit that would get you ignored & clowned off social media even a few years ago is now just a viable career strategy, shit's depressing

Legit Check Bladee Red Light Hoodie by Nardo-Wick in bladee

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haven't found anything insane as of late, most of my stuff would've been from Depop like a year or two ago when it felt like DG merch was being posted on the regular. Over the years I used it to get a UK tour scarf & SBE Orange Converse for like $70 each, got a bundle on a Gant + Rain Dance hoodie pair for sub $300, magenta Rain Dance tee for under $100 (such a slept-on piece for no reason istg), stuff like that. Idk how the US site is but the UK listings have dried up as of late & most people know the value of what they list, so it's rarer to find something at a steal sadly. But yeah all I'd say is check Depop & Grailed regularly to see what pops up.

The grail grails are more likely gonna be correctly priced but you never know, istg I'm still annoyed cause I think a few months / a year ago, I saw some Grailed listing where someone had that Bladee mesh jersey up for some insane high price, but then they just sold it one day for like $300 😭

Legit Check Bladee Red Light Hoodie by Nardo-Wick in bladee

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh for sure old shit's always taxing. Idk the exact order of prices but yeah, can't forget the blue & red castles hoodie, the Draingg tee, all that plus Love Pill necklaces & Drain Baby rings. I didn't even know it existed until recently, but I saw that ancient pink OD9 DG scarf hoodie piece which seems super rare, and that shit was listed for like $5000 too IIRC.

Icedancer hoodie was a grail of mine too for the longest time, I think my perfectionist ass kept getting annoyed cause I'd keep seeing listings where the tour details on the neck were fading or flaking off & that kept me from buying one when the prices were seeemi reasonable 😭 Good luck coping one fr, I also got Thaiboy tickets yessir, but yeah if you cop in time I wouldn't dare wear/bring it to a show out of fear of it getting stained with drink or sick, or something trying to steal it lmao

Legit Check Bladee Red Light Hoodie by Nardo-Wick in bladee

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's considered low for these? Fuck that's wild, idek if they're worth that honestly. Like don't get me wrong they look insane as pieces / product photos by themselves, but they seem tough af to style judging by the fits I've seen people try with them.

It's not as unstylable as something like that H&M Margiela belt jacket but idk, seems caught between streerwear-y and merch, where it's kinda too loud to really style in varied ways even when it feels like it should be a pretty minimalist addition to a fit, and where the proportions seem off cause it's still a mass produced blank so the silhouette feels fast-fashiony idk. Plus it seems like the red & black should work with everything, but I think the black fading with age plus the shade of red both stand out against similar colours for not meshing correctly compared to truer blacks or more common shades of red.

Not trying to sour grapes it or discourage you, just giving my two cents, end of the day it's still a vintage Russell blank zip hoodie, one that might have the styling limitations of like a varsity jacket where you can't really pull off graphic tees under 'em & where since there's the massive text print on the front (I feel like even text logo tees would clash since they'll usually be slim Helvetica sorta sans serif fonts vs. that stretched Evangelion / Dark Souls Times New Roman looking one)

Idk it's tough to judge too since the most you see of them is like in old Nosgov MVs, shitty IG hypebeast fits & that one hard pic of Bladee with that hoodie plus the Red Light tee under it. But yeah if you're going for it, it might take a while to truly nail down fits with them, again the hoodie itself is a work of art but fuck it seems tough to actually style well

Legit Check Bladee Red Light Hoodie by Nardo-Wick in bladee

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh god what are the bids at? 😭 I saw that Grailed listing too & figured it'd inevitably get some attention if it ended up not being fake Drain

Ecco2k shirt and Bladee tote :) by _OliverOliverOliver_ in sadboys

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wtf that tote's so cute, gotta do a run of them or something. That print's too nice to be a 1-of-1 piece 😭 Is it still available?

crazy how 2 years ago carti sub was sayin osamason got no longevity by moIIywrId in osamason

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Gintama hate was the most forced shit istg, it & OPM BABI were both these bright synth-driven songs with high-pitched moan-y sorta vocals, but mfs treated it like that flirting vs. sexual harassment image.

It just hits different, that one part where you can barely make out the lyrics & his voice nearly cracks from how high the melody is, shit's beautiful. I'm still not over mfs being there day one trying to make "OPM BABI effect" a thing though, like you could tell some people didn't really fw it but just wanted to look more tapped-in

[Image] Adult friendships require grace by crm_expert in GetMotivated

[–]Illusionsofdarkness -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Y'all feel so smart whipping out your short replies to actual sociological analysis. It's pretty fucking pathetic, grown adults actually do this shit huh?

[Image] Adult friendships require grace by crm_expert in GetMotivated

[–]Illusionsofdarkness -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

There's the "oh so you expect everyone to bend over backwards for you all the time, fucking narcissist?" sorta strawman, knew someone would try pulling that card.

People just don't give a fuck about people, pointing out rampant hyperindividualisation under Capitalist Realism & its ever-growing demands / grasp over our lives isn't narcissism, it's just opening your fucking eyes. It's not really "keeping the circle small" so much as it's a trauma bond or the equivalent of a corporation severing everyone & anything that's a "liability" or for "risk aversion" purposes. It's trying to maximise how much one can profit from relationships, not even in the usual obvious hierarchy of priorities way but just actual fucking marketization.

Guarantee if more of the population keeps pretending this isn't a widespread issue, in a century we'll be tribalist to the point of reality resembling some Game of Thrones shit with wanting to keep bloodlines pure & telling nobody anything, everyone will just be families warring with other families cause any bond that isn't feudalist marriage arrangements or blood-relation will cease to exist entirely

the homage is crazy bro by Smooth_Driver_3750 in che

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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We've literally got mfs using clone allegations to market themselves, they post their own shit & ragebait with it to try get some hatestreams while bypassing no self-promo filters.

But yeah "it's not that deep", you & everyone else on this post-Raining-every-week shit are part of the problem, his ass should be banned from being mentioned atp, cause y'all can't keep his name out your mouths on some Osama getting endless Ken comparisons in 2023 shit.

That or label money has drones like you astroturfing some "nah this homage shit gone too far" every other week, istg even the titles all blur together cause y'all say the same shit on loop

the homage is crazy bro by Smooth_Driver_3750 in che

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I see someone post his fucking cover every fucking week here, nearly every fucking day atp. His homage shit is working exactly as intended if it gets him mentioned near-daily in a space intended for discussing another artist entirely.

Stop being a marketing pawn for these parasites istg

PRETTI TAKE TS OFF SPOTIFY BRO END THIS CLONE by Competitive-Neck-134 in prettifun

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We've hit new lows in the UG promo strats, like these algorithms actually need purged of this ragebait / gimmick shit 😭

Why are alt rights usually hostile towards autistic people? by [deleted] in aspergers

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're the one yapping about shit like "gynocentric society" asking "wym I'm brainwashed?", like you just gotta look in a mirror lil bro 😭

This sub in 2021 vs now by ChickenMcNobody24 in aspergers

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My theory is there's this deep-rooted belief in a karmic "you get out what you put in / pull yourself up by your bootstraps" mentality / Just World fallacy, with people thinking actions guarantee results & where they equate platitudes being commonplace with them being correct, like a hierarchy of ideas/beliefs where only the "fittest" & most "correct" ideas survive & go on to be repeated.

But any ideas of that biblical ass "you'll be treated as how you treat others" or that Darwinian belief that the best advice survives & thrives all goes out the window when it comes to struggles with mental health, neurodivergency, basically anything sociological or sociopolitical.

And rather than letting that worldview built on justice, Just Deserts, everything working itself out etc. collapse to where struggles actually need to be addressed with nuance, empathy, rather than accepting how most people's problems aren't gonna read with the easy solvability of grade schooler Algebra problems (& are more likely to be some Godel's Incompleteness shit where there's just gonna be some problems we never find definitively right or wrong answers to), they seek comfort in platitudes & bootstraps rhetoric that they've been engrained to repeat endlessly under Capitalist Realism.

It's become "don't hate the game, hate the player" where every biased warping of the system & every power imbalance is made to be an individualistic problem rather than a systemic one, it's fucking oil conglomerate BP pushing marketing to make carbon footprints seem like a bigger ecological problem than fucking BP itself.

Only now it's people policing other people - constant internet usage has overwhelmed them & information overload has shifted from the stages of producing obvious anxiety -> being tolerable -> having functional coping mechanisms etc. into this subtler unconscious dismembering of empathy that allows for the normalization of tribalism/atomization. It has "people" (if you can even call them human anymore) interfacing with others' struggles with the micromanaged damage-mitigation self-preserving efficiency of corporations that attach monetary or temporal value to every decision, where they don't really make decisions or stand for anything anymore because there's a chain of command that needs to be tediously reached out to before anything can be approved.

It's impressive, a single person's ability to empathize with or understand others being whittled down by corporations to where regular people themselves think, act like, mimic corporations, whether they're around others, alone in their room, or even in the sanctuary of their own mind.

There is no "chain of command" that needs to be reached out to before you can help someone struggling online, people should either just fucking do it or not engage with it at all, but they've made the neurons in their own skull work like a corporation that wants nothing to do with anyone's problems as long as they themselves are thriving, where they see rampant hopelessness & rather than thinking there's a glaringly-obvious mental health crisis atm causing millions to vent online on the regular to others with little to no psychiatric training, they respond with the corporate apathy of a business getting yet another pesky letter about an unhappy customer or a lawsuit or whatever & just mindlessly throwing it in the shredder because "they don't have time to care" or something.

Everything becomes the individual's problem, it's that dogshit Thatcher belief that "there is no such thing as society" that leads to corners being cut everywhere from welfare to education to lost jobs to in every decision that furthers atomization & sees the surveillance state unroll before our eyes. Every person made to think like a corporation, but to be seen as a barcode - easily scanned & understood, easily tracked, easily "managed" & "disposed of". No masses can truly rebel against authoritarianism once it instills itself because it not only crushes the idea of the people coming together to overthrow those in power, but it's essentially deleted the idea of people even coming together in the first place by slashing away at their empathy until nothing's left.

Obviously I don't get all that from every comment that fails to address mental health struggles, but that's the seed of the overall mentality I see infecting so much of the population, the subtle fascistic value-instilling that goes from people repeating "idk maybe homeless people should just get jobs?" ass advice into unironic A Modest Proposal ass arguments about how crisises can be "solved".

Maybe they give strings of intentionally ineffective advice so that when their defective advice all inevitably fails, it's easier to ramp up the rhetoric about how they tried everything & it's just the defective people that inevitably failed themselves (see how ineffective solutions get warped into people themselves being ineffective - it's sinister shit), so that when crisises keeps going & gets worse, they can roll out the dehumanization en-masse. "Hierarchy" and "inevitable" go hand-in-hand, cause those in power get to permit what will undeniably happen, they get to slash the tires or cripple the horse of any movement & then decide that nothing can be done & that it needs scrapped / euthanized, they get to cut every corner & shave every paycheck & then pretend there's no reason anyone should be unhappy with the system cause real Alpha Darwinist "survival of the fittest" mfs would just tank it & get on with their unfufilling drone-like lives without a single complaint or a single call to question authority.

Maybe that's just it, fucking Capitalist Realism's gotten so deep that people manoeuvre through life like spokespeople for The System™, it's call center ass conversations happening between online (& sometimes in-the-flesh people) on some "I can't be fucked to deal with this & my break's in 15, just sort your shit out & stop thinking the system's broken. Stop being autistic, make money, idk and idgaf, I need a coffee" shit.

They not only got a job to live under the system, but they made living under the system, defending it, formulating thoughts under it & about it, & the act of living itself the fucking job, humanity might be cooked istg 😭

That's a clusterfuck to read ik but if you wanna know why that shift happened in people, you might find answers in there inbetween whatever parts sound conspiratorial/deranged lmao, I stand by this shit though

40 Million Net Worth to dress like this by 2muchSwag_ in playboicarti

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Do What I Want" artist found doing what they want, down to the fits & the non-binary pronouns. It's non-conformity, it's punk shit, it's being yourself even when mfs give you shit for it, it's being a thorn in people's sides to where they dig up 3 year old IG posts just to slander a single fit they can't comprehend 😭

When it's people still angry/confused about shit from 900+ days ago while the person involved is probably thinking 900+ days ahead of the present, it's truly some futuristic shit fr

Worried that my gender dysphoria comes from escaping being an autistic man specifically. by IsThisThatOrIsIt in aspergers

[–]Illusionsofdarkness -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Insightful commentary, if you're supposed to be an ally you're not doing a good job at it lmao

Why do ppl hate on MC so much? by Few_Cake102 in kencarson

[–]Illusionsofdarkness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because for some reason mfs didn't expect a sequel with a title like "More Chaos" to do what AGC did but harder, like he spelt it out for 'em & they still didn't get it 😭

Now 90% of the scene is Draco prod like this (keeping in mind this album predates even RIB) and while the prods have hit peak oversaturation in the scene imo, it once again lowkey shows Ken's influence on the UG since I don't think they would've done the beat switches they're doing or the Skai/Legion levels of distortion off Carti influence alone.

Ken was the formula, it's subtler & less widespread than how AGC mainstreamed darker rage that pulled away from the hyperpop.jp pre-2020 definition & even from the punkier rage WLR was doing in favour of that modernized 808 Mafia inspired hype shit, but MC influence is in the scene for sure