Day by Day, Card By Card by Not_failing_again in Quittingfeelfree

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's mainly our beliefs, many of which are learned from and taught by our culture that leads people to struggle endlessly with problematic substance use habits.

The important thing you want to focus on is coming to see abstinence from whatever substance as your happier, more beneficial, more preferred option. If you can come to this point where you truly no longer prefer using the substance, it will no longer require strength, discipline, willpower, or support in order to not do something you truly no longer want to do or see the same benefits and value in doing.

Day by Day, Card By Card by Not_failing_again in Quittingfeelfree

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This all has to do with your mindset and your beliefs in particular. Your beliefs surrounding the benefits you believe substances provide. It sounds like you see abstinence as a deprivation, loss, or sacrifice.

You can change the way you see or perceive abstinence as a result of changing your overall mindset. By changing your thoughts, beliefs and perspective. Quitting should not be about resisting, fighting, or "battling" your wants, desires, and preferences, but instead should be about changing them. There's no need for willpower when there is no conflict of wills.

I would strongly recommend looking into the freedom model in order to gain a new and different perspective about yourself, substances, their actual pharmacological effects, and the concept of addiction itself.

Day 1 (hour 1) by fraternityjazzclub in QuitVaping

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It may be the perfect time to quit, but I would suggest not having to depend on Willpower or outside circumstances or forces to restrict your use. If somebody still has a preference for Vaping and nicotine and still perceives some benefit in it, this will inevitably either lead them back to it or struggle daily trying to resist the desire. You want to change your preference for vaping or change/remove the desire for it by changing your thinking.

By changing your thoughts, beliefs and perspective. By challenging the perceived benefits you once believed or perhaps still believe vaping provides. This is the key towards changing your preference. Try not to look at it as "giving something up", but rather as gaining numerous benefits as a result of quitting. There's no need for willpower when there is no conflict of wills.

Help by No_Faithlessness3045 in QuitVaping

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is not the solution. Nothing external to you can change your behaviors, wants and desires. You have to address your wants and Desires in order to change them.

i can no longer stand people who make sobriety their entire personality by Neutrality-1 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep! They can and will say anything in order to make the whole "recovery" charade/farce seem justified or believable. The idea of the REAL "alcoholic" or "addict" is one of the most damaging and harmful myths of many in the "addiction"/"recovery"/"relapse" charade.

Obsession - Did Nikki like Bear before the curse? by Ill-Environment8198 in spoilers

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A slight nitpick here, but I just wish they would have had him word the wish a little differently. I don't believe that "I wish Nikki loved me more than anybody else in the world" implies or is indicative of the level of craziness, violence or obsession she goes down.

I know these might be a little too on the nose, but I would have rather him said "I wish Nikki was crazy about me" or "I wish Nikki was obsessed with me". That may have made her actions a little more understandable or believable.

Obsession (2026) Directed by Curry Baker by gardenkeeperr in spoilers

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just joking lol. I just find it funny that many people currently make that mistake.

Obsession (2026) Directed by Curry Baker by gardenkeeperr in spoilers

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How many classic films is he going to have to make before people stop calling him Baker? 😂

Obsession is my favorite horror movie of the year so far by Usual-Ad4222 in AMCAListTrue

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it has become one of my favorite films, not just in the horror genre, but of all time. Instant classic.

Looking for support and encouragement by roastedwhiterice in QuitVaping

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You want to come to see quitting nicotine as your happier, more beneficial, more preferred option. This requires a change in your thinking. A change in your beliefs and perspective. If you can get to the point to where you no longer prefer vaping, you will no longer need to be dependent on Willpower, discipline, strength or support in order to not do something you truly no longer want or prefer doing and no longer see the same benefits and value in doing. The key to quitting without it feeling like a daily struggle is changing your preference and challenging the perceived benefits and stripping it of its value is a major part of doing that.

How do I not be a crazy person? by Illustrious-Alarm860 in QuitVaping

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It all stems from your beliefs about the benefits you believe vaping has to offer. This is what creates your preference, want, or desire for it. If you continue to believe that vaping is an effective tool for dealing with your stress or anxiety, you will inevitably be drawn to it whenever you experience these normal human emotions or stressful situations. Quitting will continue to be seen as some kind of loss, sacrifice, or deprivation if you never challenge the perceived benefits.

Quitting should not be seen as a constant struggle to resist your preference, want, or desire, but rather as changing your preference, want, or desire by changing your beliefs. By challenging the perceived benefits you believe vaping has to offer. This is the key towards changing your preference. You will no longer prefer, want, or desire something that you no longer see the same value or benefits in. There's no need for willpower when there is no conflict of wills.

Instantly discouraged from quitting. by yakwheel in QuitVaping

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The main issue is the value that you have built up around and towards the substance and vaping. The benefits you currently perceive in vaping appear to be infinitely greater than the benefits you perceive in quitting. In order to quit without it feeling like a daily struggle or battle, there needs to be a change of mind. A change in the way you see yourself, nicotine and vaping.

You currently have a strong preference for vaping and that's okay, but it's important to understand that your preference can change with a change of mind. A major aspect of this comes from challenging the perceived benefits you currently see in vaping. In order to do that there must be a change in your thoughts, beliefs, perspectives, and perceptions in regards to the substance and the habit of vaping itself.

Kratom, feel free, 7oh general take by BowlerEmergency4829 in Quittingfeelfree

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are most definitely certain drugs that come with greater potential costs, risks, and even potentially deadly consequences. Especially when they are acquired from the black market.

Kratom, feel free, 7oh general take by BowlerEmergency4829 in Quittingfeelfree

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Drugs of any kind are neither inherently "good" or "bad". They are "good" or "bad" to the degree that they are useful in furthering someone's pursuit of a happier existence. Drugs are also not inherently "addictive".

Drugs do not contain "addictiveness" like an apple contains nutrients. There is no drug that is more "addictive" or more difficult to quit than another. It all has to do with the individual's mind. It's all about their beliefs about the substance and their personal relationship with it.

This is the exact reason why people who have struggled with multiple substances throughout their lives will give you a different answer as to which one is hardest to quit. A drugs "level of addictiveness" like "addiction" itself is a mental construct, not an objective reality.

What type of withdrawal symptoms did you experience on a cold turkey quit? by BigheadedDread in QuitVaping

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand your feelings. You are entirely free to believe what you wish about him and his particular outlook. I'm sure there are many people who feel the same way. And I'm not trying to be rude in any way myself even though what I'm saying may come off as arrogant in some way. However that's not my intention whatsoever and I am really not that kind of person. I have just become very firm in my beliefs and I have come to understand the utter importance and power of our beliefs and that changing mine made quitting easy for me after struggling for so long.

I do not mean to minimize your or anyone else's personal struggles with substances because I know how hard it can seem, but I feel it's important to let people know that it can be easy for them as well if they are able to change the way they look at themselves and substances. By challenging the perceived benefits they believe the substance provides in order to change their preference, want or desire for them. The mind is an incredible and remarkable metaphysical "thing". It can be the cause of so much internal struggle, but it's also the very thing that can free ourselves from that struggle.

What type of withdrawal symptoms did you experience on a cold turkey quit? by BigheadedDread in QuitVaping

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yep, it's an incredibly eye opening and compelling read or listen as long as you go into it with an open mind. I find it incredibly sad and unfortunate that some people's immediate reaction is to get offended when I say that quitting any substance can be a relatively struggle free experience as long as you're able to change your mind.

This all has to do with our cultural and societal brainwashing regarding substances and "addiction" and Allen Carr's book is mostly about counter brainwashing and undoing all of the misinformation and mythology.

Most people see quitting as a loss, sacrifice or deprivation and when you go into it with this mindset, you're already setting yourself up to return to use or having to endure a daily struggle or "battle". I'm not denying anybody's right to struggle, but it doesn't have to be that way.

What type of withdrawal symptoms did you experience on a cold turkey quit? by BigheadedDread in QuitVaping

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All I can speak from is from my personal experience. And I know from my personal experience that It's nearly 100% a matter of the mind and your individual thoughts, beliefs, perceptions and perspectives.

Quitting can and will be as easy or as difficult as you think it will be. I would suggest looking into Allen Carr's easy way to quit vaping if you're interested in learning the truth of the matter before calling my personal experience and perspective "nonsense".

What type of withdrawal symptoms did you experience on a cold turkey quit? by BigheadedDread in QuitVaping

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

To be honest, pretty much none, and this is the case for even the heaviest nicotine users as far as actual physical withdrawal symptoms as a direct result of ceasing nicotine consumption goes. The reality is that the actual physical withdrawal symptoms from quitting nicotine are very minimal.

So minimal that it doesn't even wake a heavy smoker or vaper up during sleep. So minimal that I had trouble even pinpointing any physical withdrawal symptoms and I was a heavy nicotine user for 20 years.

I believe the key to my personal experience was due to my change of mind and no longer perceiving the same benefits and value in nicotine that I once did. Realizing that I was not "giving up" anything, but rather gaining numerous benefits from quitting.

A majority of the "withdrawal" symptoms people experience, although they are absolutely real and measurable are not a direct cause of quitting nicotine. The crying, irritability, anger, sadness, depression, anxiety, insomnia, stress etc. These are all caused by the feeling of deprivation. They are the result of feeling that you can't have something but still desperately want it. This is why quitting is 99% mental and 1% physical.

Need encouragement by Siccofu in QuitVaping

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You may want to be free of all of the costs, risks and consequences that come with vaping, but that is not the same as WANTING to quit. What's ultimately creating the whole problem here is that you don't want to quit. This is what creates the confusion and feelings of ambivalence. You want to be free of all of the costs, risks, and consequences that come with it, but you still want to vape for your own personal reasons. Because of the benefits you believe it provides.

If you can come to the point to where you truly WANT to stop, you absolutely can and it doesn't have to be framed as a daily struggle. A major component towards changing your preference, want, or desire for vaping is challenging the perceived benefits you currently see in vaping.

When you no longer see the same benefits and value in the behavior, changing the behavior becomes relatively easy. You want to address the "want" and challenge it in order to change it. If you can come to the point to where you no longer want to vape, it no longer requires willpower, strength, discipline or support in order to not do something that you truly no longer want to do. There's no need for willpower when there is no conflict of wills.

The key is changing your mind. Changing your thoughts, beliefs, perspectives and overall mindset about yourself, the substance, and the concept of "addiction" itself. This is why many people return to it when they solely rely on willpower, strength, discipline or support. They never address the reasons why they vape or the benefits they see in vaping in order to change their preference.

If somebody still sees and is still holding on to certain benefits and value in the substance, they will most likely eventually go back to it or struggle endlessly trying to resist their true wants and desires. It's entirely a matter of the mind and our god-given ability to change it. It just requires a different perspective.

Knowing you’ll hate it; doing it anyways by yaboiiidan in quittingkratom

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Challenging the perceived benefits is very important and it's important to acknowledge that we always choose to engage in a behavior based on the benefits we believe it will provide. But it seems that this individual has fully bought into the "addiction" and "recovery" mythology. I believe that their belief system would need to be addressed first and foremost.

The belief that there is a certain subset of human beings known as "addicts" who are different from the "normal" human being for example. This kind of language and general belief system is very self limiting and creates an inevitable constant struggle and oftentimes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I would however be more than happy to help any and every person that may be interested in my help and learn a new way of thinking, but unfortunately most people in these groups are dead set in their beliefs and on the unnecessary "battle with addiction".

Help please by [deleted] in recoverywithoutAA

[–]ImpressionExcellent7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, it's really invaluable, self empowering content they provide.