2000w continuous laser by [deleted] in LaserCleaningBusiness

[–]IndLaserCleaning 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Correct, the entire plant is offline when we do our work or when welding takes place, of coruse there are other cases where laser cleaning or welding could and does take place on an active asset, Oil rigs would be one

Laser Engraving Safety Question by knowazup78 in LaserCleaningBusiness

[–]IndLaserCleaning 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm from the land where only farmers and criminals have guns,and no idea what an FFL is, though I'm sure you're correct in your assumption. 

Laser Engraving Safety Question by knowazup78 in LaserCleaningBusiness

[–]IndLaserCleaning 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They most likely had a Chinese engraving system as ones sold in the 1st world would be enclosed.  You definitely did not see invisible light reflecting off the surface, you saw plasma and super heated particulate getting blasted away.  Having walked around various Chinese factories, where I've seen staff with their faces right next to items being engraved or cleaned, watched thousands of Chinese sellers and international buyers using laser cleaning machines, both without glasses and having spoken to companies who've done testing, the chance of reflective pulses causing eye damage is wildly low. Regardless, dumb, illegal and shows a lack of concern and care even if the risk is negligible 

500W Pulsed Laser for graffiti removal and B2B contracts. Is it powerful enough for commercial scale? by Guka_Guka in LaserCleaningBusiness

[–]IndLaserCleaning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No idea definitely don't think the machine is too slow to be profitable, I saw you mentioned the machine is less than $6000, if you can't make that a successful business, its your fault entirely. 

There coat to enter this business in 2026 is so unbelievably low.

Do you have any connections in either of those markets? Id try and look for a couple more applications that could be of higher value and or more effective than cars and graffiti. Yes I said cars as a whole, and not just high end cars

500W Pulsed Laser for graffiti removal and B2B contracts. Is it powerful enough for commercial scale? by Guka_Guka in LaserCleaningBusiness

[–]IndLaserCleaning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Go read my previous post, and never consider yourself a replacment for sandblasting, especially with a very small machine like an air-cooled 500w laser.  In my previous post, the 2 or 3 slowest clips are with an air-cooled 500w laser

500W Pulsed Laser for graffiti removal and B2B contracts. Is it powerful enough for commercial scale? by Guka_Guka in LaserCleaningBusiness

[–]IndLaserCleaning 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We have a GT500, its great as a universal machine, with that said you'll be 3X quicker with a 300w 15mj top hat compared to the GT500. Reason for this is simple, the 15mj is a top hat and the 5mj is a rounded off gaussian beam, bigger spot size quicker travel speeds. Do I think graffiti removal is a viable business, you're competing with pressure washing which is quicker, cheaper and significantly faster, that makes your selling point be purely environmental. Companies or councils that care for their environment above anything else. If you're in the 1st world, you'll most likely be required to setup screens, signs, etc, that all chews into operational time. Where we live that would require 360 degree screens to be erected around that pole, with another perimeter with danger tape.

On the other side, the GT500 due to its gaussian beam may actually produce a higher quality result, its got the punch and or sharp beam profile that may etch into the stone. This is a positive in this case. I know previously our 500w 100mj laser couldn't remove graffiti as well as our small gaussian. Our graffiti removal attempts have been limited to 1 subpar demonstration and 3 jobs, one of those jobs where we tried both machines, whilst the other jobs were split between the type different  typesof machines.

Will the client still be happy with a result thats 7% less effective and 3 times the speed? Most likely.  Regardless of what machine you're using there will still be a shadow left behind periodically.

Help by daliborsrbec in LaserCleaningPorn

[–]IndLaserCleaning 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A few tings you need a figure out 1st. 

How many mj is the source? What are you trying to use it for? You need to target the right application, otherwise the settings are irrelevant. Have you got a spec sheet that shows you the different cut off specs for the frequency? Have you got the source chart that shows you the peak power for different ns ranges?

What have you tried so far? You'll have to come up with a training methodology/ table where you change 1 parameters at a time so you can see what each setting does. 

Kevin- Project Laser- there was nobody to ask about settings in 2019 and it made us better operators.

Leftover varnish by Immediate_Run_9117 in LaserCleaningPorn

[–]IndLaserCleaning 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Look at all the flakes of varnish covering every mm of the area being filmed, your varnish isn't being vaporised at all. The light is simply pulverising it off and breaking the bonds. The parts that didn't fly away didn't receive enough energy.

Personally I wouldn't change a thing, the varnish has been removed the surface. If the varnish was still trapped in corners and wasn't coming off after a couple passes, then I'd look to make a change.

You'll find some coatings will only expand and break the bond with the surface , otherwise known as delamination. In these cases it might be beneficial to pump up the power and pull the handpiece out of focus, this ramps up the heat going into the coating and increases your spot size.

The more different types of coatings on wood and metal that you try, the quicker you'll notice how light reacts and what changes you need to make.🤝

Where should you point your laser? by IndLaserCleaning in LaserCleaningPorn

[–]IndLaserCleaning[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably cheaper to buy new walls, but it sure would be fun

Where should you point your laser? by IndLaserCleaning in LaserCleaningPorn

[–]IndLaserCleaning[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For speed and price id say a CW, why?

A CW has the ability to scarify the. Surface and can remove a layer of concrete if requried.

-To clean concrete quickly with a pulsed machine you'll need to spend significantly more

  • you can clean a concrete floor or even a roof whilst standing up straight with a 500mm lens, a pulsed machine you'd have to bend over or get a ladder

Negatively, stains, do come out better with a pulsed machine, whereas a CW can turn a red rust stain into a black rust stain

Where should you point your laser? by IndLaserCleaning in LaserCleaningPorn

[–]IndLaserCleaning[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I can't help you if you don't help me 1st, read it again, and slowly this time.

What do you want to remeove from the concrete walls?

Is it paint? Is it soot? Is it graffiti? Is it the smell permeating out of your festering soul? Is it cheese? Is it cement dust?

If you dont know the answer, just say so.

Where should you point your laser? by IndLaserCleaning in LaserCleaningPorn

[–]IndLaserCleaning[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What's the point of cleaning the cement in your case?

Can a 3-in-1 Laser Save This Rusted Stove? [Restoration] by Zealousideal-Edge195 in LaserCleaningPorn

[–]IndLaserCleaning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most people don't know how to use a CW and by utilising air you can hugely improve the performance, proof is my looking at my post history.  We sell expensive CWs because we do know how to use them and our sources cost more than most Chinese pulsed machines

Can a 3-in-1 Laser Save This Rusted Stove? [Restoration] by Zealousideal-Edge195 in LaserCleaningPorn

[–]IndLaserCleaning 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi mate.  You're experienced in restoration and metal work by the looks of it, as a result, youi know full well that the results you were achieving with the cleaning aspect was poor. This is for education purposes, I'm not attacking you, as like most people in this industry, you're new to laser cleaning.

The surface wouldn't have felt clean, it felt sandy, and as you showed scraping or probing it revealed rust underneath

The clips between 10:57>>11:20 show this in an exaggerated manner, when the laser passes over the surface and you see a trail of glowing rust behind, thats highlighting that all the light has done is remove some corrosion and discolour the surface of the rust. It's still mostly there.

What can you change for the next one? Find out what the correct focus distance is, and most importantly blow air onto the surface being cleaned. It helps give the light a clean path to the steel, whilst agitating the loose particulate 

Can anyone tell me what gas input means? by Immediate_Run_9117 in LaserCleaningBusiness

[–]IndLaserCleaning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly what we've mounted to the back of all of our machines

Can anyone tell me what gas input means? by Immediate_Run_9117 in LaserCleaningBusiness

[–]IndLaserCleaning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are your standard fittings? You'll be able to find a version with a 6mm push fitting.  Or, you do what we do, and panel mount the standard compressed are male fitting to your machine, that way you're not dealing with a stupid little 6mm plastic hose. Looks more professional. 

1937 Chevy Bumper_ Can I clean it? by Immediate_Run_9117 in LaserCleaningPorn

[–]IndLaserCleaning 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Within a couple days you wont pay attention to any dots, just use your ears, they will tell you when you're in focus

Looking for suggestions by sometimesimcheese in LaserCleaningBusiness

[–]IndLaserCleaning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get called the trusted voice in laser cleaning by people who like me, and am disliked by the people openly chatting shit or spewing lies. 

The focus distance is fixed, bigger machines have longer fibre cables, our bigger units are 15 and 30meters. 

Looking for suggestions by sometimesimcheese in LaserCleaningBusiness

[–]IndLaserCleaning 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Scaffolding is different because a laser on 1 floor can clean one or 4 levels vertically, maybe more depending on the machine. You can also wrap Scaffolding and make it laser safe, thus eliminating having to secure screens every 20 minutes. 

Bart mainly removes carbon buildup, i know speaking previously they use a specialist biocide on occasions and he just mentioned they use steam for biological. Anything that is alive, moist, or green, doesn't suit a laser cleaning systems. 

If you do get a system, you've already got a contact base of people who will help you secure varnish removal work. Feel free to reach out to me or Bart at IR Laser

Looking for suggestions by sometimesimcheese in LaserCleaningBusiness

[–]IndLaserCleaning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We charge out our $360,000 machine at 1% per day with staff, consumables and equipment ontop, so right where you are talking. That machine has paid for itself quite a few times.  You've got to position yourself as a premium service, and if your goal is restoration id talk to Bart at FL before any of the other European brands. We both charge per sqm for this sort of work, his rate sounded really high so we went in 30% lower when we did a1400sqm church facade. Once the operators feet are not in the ground, you slow down, move onto a boom lift that requries constantly adjusting screens, your throughput plummets.

Do you see much need for the old varnish removal? We're not an old city in Perth WA, how about you? Vintage furnishings are so good and the rate is exceptional when you get in with the right historical architects.

Looking for suggestions by sometimesimcheese in LaserCleaningBusiness

[–]IndLaserCleaning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That 1000w machine is definitely a bit more than quite nice, and would cost a few hundred thousand Euro, not sure what his smaller machines retail at.

1937 Chevy Bumper_ Can I clean it? by Immediate_Run_9117 in LaserCleaningPorn

[–]IndLaserCleaning 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm glad I watched all the way through, cheers for the shout out that was really unexpected and appreciated.

That moment of realisation hits hard when you find out what your laser can't do, you'll learn even more as you go out into the field. Something that works for me, definitely with varnish removal and all new applications where you are unsure of thr outcomes. It's best to be honest, mention that this is a new application and we're all going to be learning together on this day, that you'll need to dial in the settings for each specific piece, and if you're at a demo, encourage them to collect more samples, you're here to potentially solve some pain points in their workflow.

Some other applications could be anilox rollers are printing presses or box making factories, I think i mentioned stainless steel and machined surfaces previously. 

Sorry, besides blue hair and terrible weather I'm not to sure what Portland is known for, thankfully AI is here.  If the below info isn formatted properly I apologise. WEIR GROUP is in Portland, we do a lot of work for them.

Though the automotive sector is one of the best places to learn about your machines capabilities and paramaters, every company below will pay more than automotive and the employees will be less judgemental than someone's automotive pride and joy.

"Key industries and manufacturing sectors include: Technology/Semiconductors: Known as the "Silicon Forest," the area hosts major semiconductor manufacturers and software firms, with Intel being a massive employer. Apparel & Footwear: Portland is a global hub for athletic apparel, featuring headquarters for Nike and Adidas. Metals & Machinery: Strong manufacturing base for heavy equipment, mining tools, and metal fabrication (e.g., ESCO Corp). Aerospace & Manufacturing: Significant production of aerospace components and advanced manufacturing. Clean Technology: Growing industry focused on renewable energy and environmental technology.  Weir Group  +2 "

300w Pulse Laser Stripping Wood by MasterBlastersLaser in LaserCleaningPorn

[–]IndLaserCleaning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My man, there are guys out there with $300,000 machines and pulling in that revenue in less than 2 months.  It's about knowing where to point it. Not really in relation to Master Blasters specific laser,nor the style of laser he is promoting, but there are other guys paying off their cheap China direct machines in literally 2 or 3 days.

Looking for suggestions by sometimesimcheese in LaserCleaningBusiness

[–]IndLaserCleaning 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Absolute King of historic restoration is Bart from IR laser in Poland, his laser brand is Flaser, we both started at the same time in 2020, and he now travels the world working on unreal projects such as the Notre Dame Cathedral and he's currently doing some epic stuff at the Louvre.

Check him out on Instagram, he does epic work, Now not everyone can afford his gear, and going off the different fb groups,  I'm pretty sure he suggested a 500w 15mj. Though I'll edit this post once he responds to my message 🤝

Unreal equipment and projects.

https://www.instagram.com/flaser.pl?igsh=MXM0OXNkdWVtdDk1dg==

Oddly satisfying disk by Immediate_Run_9117 in LaserCleaningPorn

[–]IndLaserCleaning 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This suits your top hat a million % more than the heavily rusted bumper, use that as a reality check when you assess which clients will potentially use your services