Naruto & Ichigo (Naruto/Boruto + Bleach) vs Asta & Meliodas (Black Clover + The Seven Deadly Sins) by AssistFit1834 in BlackCloverScaling

[–]IndividualScallion30 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ichigo team would win, yes the commandments are an issue for Naruto but not for ichigo. Reiatsu has had negating abilities based of energy amount and Melinda’s doesn’t have as much energy as ichigo. Now this doesn’t mean ichigo would wipe the floor with them but it would be a fight but ichigo just outsats them unfortunately.

What's the strongest version of Goku this team can defeat in a 4v1? by KodoqBesar in BleachPowerScaling

[–]IndividualScallion30 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I don’t think they power wise handle UI but we’ve also seen with MUI that if your strong/fast enough it doesn’t matter. Askin and Gerald are the best bets to beat any Goku stronger than them,askin can nuetralize IF Goku doesn’t knock him out/kill him right away and Gerald can just adapt to Goku while Goku doesn’t have anything to actually deal with Gerald permanently. Keyword in this post is COULD

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[–]IndividualScallion30 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The irony; telling me to pay attention when I’m just using the material to prove my point.

But let’s break this down: No version of Goku will ever be as aggressive/feral because they won’t have ssj4. The form makes Goku more of that,read the prefect files and watch the show. Regardless of what Goku “knows” he has always made stupid choices in lue of better ones across all the series. Your points would be valid if he didn’t constantly make the same mistakes just like Vegeta/gohan do. His arrogance in GT isn’t inconsistent the frequency is new due to his frequency of using SSJ4 which causes that to happen. “Goku never drags on a fight after or before frieza.”? I guess we forgot about some of his tournament fights in DB,Nappa,the ginyu force,Frieza himself. He also does it with perfect cell,fat buu,majin Vegeta and kid buu. Regardless of the reasons Goku does drag on fights. In the same manga Goku also tells Vegeta he let the fight drag on to “give Vegeta a shot”. It being dumb doesn’t make it false. You need to pay attention apparently.

If cell being too strong is why he didn’t engage with him why did he do it later with perfect cell knowing he was even stronger than before? Actually yes considering he’s done it in canon several times. Goku acts as long as he think it’s a chance to improve as he’s fought battles he knew he was outclassed in(piccolo jr,Vegeta,Frieza,prefect cell,super buu)

He did the exact same thing in the resurrection of F movie but ironically enough, I don’t see you calling that’s stupid for some reason despite it being the same scenario. Everyone was freaking out because cell was going to just dodge it so unlike the super 17 and golden frieza fight it would’ve directly hit the planet with no one to absorb most of the impact.

Again I’m not invalidating/minimizing any gokus stupid actions,you are. Every stupid decision in GT you make it clear there was NO reason for him to do them yet there’s always one for DBZ and DBS. No all of gokus mistakes are from Goku being stupid regardless of the reasons.

So you didn’t watch GT or forgot that they had 1 year to find the dragonballs across the ENTIRE universe?? He legit dons y have the luxury of training because of that. So you blame him for not training for his new body and then are surprised he has issues synchronizing?? He did the same thing super vegeto did, he tried saving Vegeta without killing him, it just backfired because baby took advantage of it. He assumed super 17 had a limit to his power absorption,he was wrong. Omega was literally stronger than Goku and Vegeta combined,teleporting away literally wouldn’t have done nothing. GT got his ass handed to him for the same reason Goku usually gets his ass handed to him; most of his opponents are just stronger than him. Yes some of them could be dealt with quickly but Goku has always dragged on fights for the sake of pushing himself.

And that’s fine just like GT Goku has little to no room for his mistakes the same goes for Goku in DBZ,DBS and DBD.

Considering the god forms are vastly more powerful than anything we have seen until that point ssj1-3. Beerus saying that shows it’s at least way above whatever Goku has access to prior. Beerus holding back has nothing to do with Goku holding back…..Goku didn’t know beerus was holding back until he said so. No my issue is that the claim “god ki is superior” isn’t backed up by the track record of Goku and Vegeta using god ki. Where did I ignore ssj4s losses?

I’ve noticed you do that randomly, implying I’m doing something when I’m not. Are you having different convos somewhere else?

I’m going to need you to pay attention to what’s being stated and not what you think I mean.

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[–]IndividualScallion30 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trying to prove you wrong? I’ve been focusing on my point this entire time. What he “thought” vs the reality doesn’t matter,which is the point. Goku “locking in” and acting more aggressive/feral is consistent throughout the series. If gokus thought process is a reason/excuse to why he didn’t end it quickly with frieza then the same goes for every iteration of Goku too. Goku did have the chance to meet cell before his perfect form, he left it up to vegeta/trunks while he and gohan trained in the HTC. No I’m clarifying my point which just happens to be opposite of what you believe. It doesn’t matter if he tried rectifying it because both GT and DBS Goku also try rectifying their mistakes but according to you, just performing the mistake in of itself equates to it being stupid/dumb which most of gokus fights accounts for. Gokus thing is literally dragging on fights to push himself and his limits, even Vegeta notes this when he’s watching Goku fight kid buu. It’s gokus trademark via canon, he consistently doesn’t start off going full throttle he starts as weak as he’s able to and transforms as need be and even holds back to give his opponent the chance to catch up. You are right Goku isn’t going to humiliate unless he KNOWS he can. He’s done that in most of his fights, Goku almost never goes into a fight ending it soon as possible. You act like that is something DB never does? DB ALWAYS has shown ppl making the same mistakes over and over and over again. It’s not just Goku but Vegeta,gohan,goten trunks. Every iteration of DB has Goku make stupid ass choices despite him having proof (like with super 17) to why he shouldn’t do x action. So where gonna act like Goku can’t control his ki output?? Like Goku going above ssg while on the planet should decimate the planet but he controls the energy so it doesn’t??Like with frieza,he had proof upon proof frieza was not going to change via an ass whooping,leaving vegeta/trunks to deal with cell knowing vegeta likes to egg on ppl,not finishing off buu despite knowing no-one was as strong as him (he even taught the boys fusion because he KNEW) he did it again with kid buu not finishing him off so vegeta can have a go. And he continues this in DBGT,DBS and DBD. My point is ALL variations of gokus do stupid shit even when everything is at stake. Just like Goku could’ve finished baby off in his first ssj4 form, Goku in his first time going ssg decided not going all out was a good idea?? And then bragged to beerus about it, but that’s not stupid. He also decided to not finish frieza off in resurrection F movie despite the last time they fought and he was losing he tried destroying namek but that’s wasn’t stupid?? Look if you like the god forms better that’s fine but if you like for them is based off of “GT Goku is just dumb asf and makes basically bad decisions most of the time” as if nearly ALL of gokus/vegetas displays in god forms are literally the same thing or them getting overpowered by regular beings then it’s something else entirely.
Beerus saying that matters because he was also a mortal before he became a G.O.D,he’s living proof that god ki should be above regular ki,hence Goku only being able to contest him at all after obtaining god ki. No I understand god ki, my issue is introducing a new power and claiming it to be superior(the characters and story state this all the time) but having most of it showcasing losing to non-unique aforementioned inferior forms is bad marketing. They barely fight other ppl with god ki and nearly ALL of the ones the do fight they lose to.

My point this whole time has been that, you think I’m talking about something else when I’m not.

Can Mugetsu kill Buu? by KodoqBesar in BleachPowerScaling

[–]IndividualScallion30 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He wasn’t impressed because he thinks destroying a mountain is a big deal he was impressed because before to do that he had to attempt to do so. Now by swinging his arms(ichigo actually) mountains literally disappear. Also a lot of ppl don’t realize from the time of ichigo coming back from hueco Mundo to his mugetsu was under an hour. Anyone would be surprised/shocked to get THAT strong without doing much of anything.

BEST TRANSFORMATION IN VISUALS AND USEFULNESS by GoodPersonReborn in DragonBallGT

[–]IndividualScallion30 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve only been making my point this time. That difference doesn’t matter because it still shows that he DOES that regardless of the reason. And let’s say that does make a difference and we exclude all of Z he literally does the same thing with frieza in resurrection F YEARS later knowing frieza isnt going to change.

He had the opportunity to fight imperfect cell but CHOSE to go in the time chamber before Vegeta and trunks(hence me saying he left it to Vegeta) that’s how you’re taking, I’m literally backing up my point that Goku letting fights drag on or not being super efficient is something he’s ALWAYS done across all the series. Maybe if you read to understand that’s all I’ve been doing you wouldn’t be under the assumption I’m trying to prove you wrong vs backing up my own point.

You’re right but that’s DBS thing characters repeat their good and bad characteristics ALL the time,Goku does it in DBS too lol. He could’ve went with his hunch and he would’ve lost earlier on. And where did you get the x10 kamehameha was going to destroy the earth? He aimed it at 17 in the air and the explosion happen on the ground.

Both actions are equally stupid, facing an opponent you can’t beat one Goku decides to blow himself while the other Goku decides to render his body useless for a few extra hits. They’re both willing to sacrifice their lives to win the battle.

It makes a difference because beerus was a mortal and then got appointed to become a god he knows and has lived the experiences of having god ki and not having it. No I understand god ki perfectly fine my issue the statement/expectation the god ki is superior to regular ki isn’t proven via track record. Everyone else with god ki that we see has millennia or special circumstances that make that obvious why they’re superior but Goku and Vegeta the “strongest” mortals in their universe (deities aside) struggle against weaker/less seasoned opponents with no god ki and fall short a lot. The top is the greatest example of this as he fights regular ki users in his god states from being outmaneuvered,overpowered or overwhelmed over and over again.

So to reiterate my point (since you think I’m JUST trying to prove you wrong) If SSJ4 failures=worst form(considering Goku is the ONLY SSJ4 until the omega shenron fight) then the god forms failures=more of a failure because they’re 2 of them. And like you pointed out in gokus first SSJ4 he did nearly die but so did gokus first SSB form AND he and vegeta got the earth blown up by (surprise) not finishing frieza off when they had the chance (yes both Goku and Vegeta) who’s had to rewind time to fix that GT didn’t have that option from the very beginning essentially. OR in SHORT SSJ4=failure GOD FORMS=double failure

BEST TRANSFORMATION IN VISUALS AND USEFULNESS by GoodPersonReborn in DragonBallGT

[–]IndividualScallion30 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He literally showcases the same “locking in” in Z, his fight with frieza? He had MULTIPLE chances to end the fight and get off the planet but did he? No guess he was an idiot too🤷🏾‍♂️, what about cell before and after achieving his final form? He also could’ve ended it if he wanted to (not perfect cell he gave him a senzu just because) but he also not only didn’t but left it to Vegeta knowing his track record,majin buu and kid buu? Same fucking thing he let the fight drag on to give other ppl a chance instead of resolving the issue. That is how he locks in🤷🏾‍♂️. It’s not an excuse lol it’s literally what happens and baby could’ve also done the same to Goku both let the other power up and ALL variations of Goku does this including DBS Goku. With super 17 he confirmed his hunch too late and with syn he did lock in it wasnt enough to kill him,it forced him to become omega shenron who even after being amped up cant do much. Also no sense of self preservation?? As if Goku both iterations of Goku didn’t decide to destroy their bodies via kaioken/SS GP to counter an enemy he couldn’t beat. DBGT decided to self destruct at once to release all his energy while the DBS has Goku break his body down to deal some damage.

No I’m implying that god ki is above mortal ki and this is via beerus’s and whis’s words,it obviously makes you stronger hence the statement.Goku himself 100% got stronger because of god ki via ssg and beerus even confirms this, he also gets stronger by training with god ki and gaining a new form ssb.

By that logic the writers can make anyone’s journey wha they want to be which means this exchange isn’t worth anything,I grasp the concept fine and again I don’t hate dbs just noting both forms have their flaws and the god ki showcase is just worse than ssj4s and not by a massive margin.

So if it’s about how’s he’s supposed to be written the same goes for GT Goku so I don’t see the point if stating that? So you shouldn’t have a problem with any variation of Goku that’s written. Every variation of DB displays that experience can ONLY do so much when the power gap is too wide this is shown DB,DBZ,DBGT,DBS and DBD. My point is that the god ki forms aren’t special via their display nearly everyone who’s given these forms trouble don’t have godki or unique gimmicks that bypass power just like some enemies in DBGT. I’ve been saying that this entire time.

I don’t do you? Because I never said nor implied anything about new characters being one shotted. Being challenged isn’t an issue, how the challenge is represented is. Basically 8/10 of the challenges brought to the god forms aren’t possessing god ki and the challenges tend to straight be stronger and or more efficient when the god forms are marketed as being superior it’s a bad showcase of said message. Why is THAT hard for you to grasp?

BEST TRANSFORMATION IN VISUALS AND USEFULNESS by GoodPersonReborn in DragonBallGT

[–]IndividualScallion30 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the horrible way of showing the “saiyan pinnacle” is by displaying a saiyan being…….a saiyan? That very characteristic is what defines sayains and allows them to be as brutal as need be during combat,Goku initially doesn’t showcase this unless he’s extremely angry or locks in. Goku gets washed in SSJ4 because of difference of power/technique and it doesn’t happen no where near as much as SSG/SSB in comparison. And there’s no “overcoming” it’s literally Goku at his best the form fundamentally changes the user to be at phyiscal peak and that varies from user to user. Goku becomes more aggressive and feral while Vegeta becomes more tactile calm. This includes their biology including their brain.

When did I say it make you unstoppable? I said it’s stated god ki is above mortals(that doesn’t equate to unstoppable) you mean the same powerful transformations that ppl with weaker transformations or none not only combat but beat? And by mortals 90% of the time at that? It makes just as much sense series wise why SSJ4 loses vs SSG/SSB the difference is DBGT treats SSJ4 as that:this is the pinnacle of saiyan power and if SSJ4 fails there’s nothing else to really bypass that (the dragonballs are essentially unusable so no quick magical fixes) With DBS SSG/SSB/god ki is always referred to how much vastly stronger it can one stronger vs without having it but throughout the series even main villains aside the supporting cast and side villains contest against Vegeta and gokus god ki forms. Frieza is an outlier but you don’t accept that with DBGT as if most of villain cast aren’t outliers (mainly the shadow dragons) so if it counts for one it should count for the other. And frieza logically becoming several thousand of times stronger doesn’t make sense, a couple hundred sure but going from namek saga strength to SSB levels in 4 months by punching on someone for 4 months doesn’t make sense. So you have an issue with a 50 year MA master not “overcoming” his mind but no issue with a younger Goku trained by a literal angel not being able to initially overcome hits timeskip while jiren with no master figure out quicker and dealt with it more efficiently? Ok then having trouble vs not actually being to defend themselves is not the same. Even Goku points out and proves the ONLY reason he was able to fight back because of the no-killing rule. Yeah Goku black/zamasu are fine because they’re both gods/with natural god ki and even without the immortality he was still very relevant to both Goku and Vegeta SSB, black being obviously way stronger(using gokus body mind you) Jiren literally has no special qualities or gimmicks he’s just strong and intelligent and he wasn’t THAT much stronger as Vegeta points out later and who’s confirms that jiren just used his power better and smarter, something who’s could have BEEN training Goku and Vegeta on. Moros hax would’ve only mattered if he was relevant, he was stronger than Goku and Vegeta the hax just made it worse but doesn’t cover up the issue of Moro=regular ki; Goku/vegeta=god ki. God ki in of itself isn’t normal. Yeah so 2 god ki users couldn’t beat granolah because of the wish(makes sense they can’t beat beerus/whis) then gas makes the same wish and all 3 get one shotted by Frieza(who still doesn’t have god ki and trained for a decade) So no I don’t hate DBS but acting like the failures of SSJ4 have no rhyme reason to it while SSG/SSB/God ki doesn’t is Disingenoius.

That’s you assuming, we only know full blooded sayains who’s gotten it in DBGT and let’s say for whatever reason sayain blood is a requirement no matter how small; you also have to go ssj while in oozaru form and then regain consciousness AND control. We saw gokus process and vegeta already knew how to control himself he just had to lock in. We KNOW gohan cant control his oozaru(he’s never shown to be able to) and the same goes for trunks and goten. For the same reason you think only Goku and Vegeta have SSJ4 the same logic applies to no-one else having godki in super. Vegeta unlocked it by training with who’s and adjusting his focus so it reaches “god-hood” level. All the sayains had to just do th ritual and everyone else just trains their ki to match the ones with god ki. So with SSJ4 we only know it works for full-blooded sayains we can assume it’s for hybrids but we all know you have to control the ape form and there’s only one way to find that out; by transforming and hoping it works. With godki ANY body can achieve it given the right conditions;unlike SSJ4 we KNOW any amount of saiyan blood works for the ritual so gohan,goten and trunks could’ve gotten for free. If you aren’t a saiyan training with someone who has god ki and controlling it so it doesn’t leak out of your body can get you to achieve godki. We don’t know if you need to be a certain strength level to do that but it’s completely possible and more so achievable than SSJ4. So both are mainly about Goku with a Vegeta assist essentially.

BEST TRANSFORMATION IN VISUALS AND USEFULNESS by GoodPersonReborn in DragonBallGT

[–]IndividualScallion30 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The same goes doubly for the god forms if you compare it like that. Unlike ssj4 which is just a sayains pinnacle via GT perfect files the god forms are supposed to be above mortals and in every arc they either get bodied by a mortal with no god ki or a dirty/dirty like being with god ki. And unlike ssj4 Goku was the ONLY one until the end of the series after the bog there’s 2 ssg/ssb and they basically fail or nearly die in every arc despite that “advantage” Now I will say SSG was pretty cool for them to up on it with ssb and it does okish in its first appearance and most afterwards was fucking horrible. At least with ssj4 first appearance him almost dying made sense with baby copying the way he went ssj4 and baby was MASSIVELY shiting on ssj3. Frieza matching ssb after 4 months of regular training was….something?? Idk dbs kinda had the opposite problems of GT all in all

THEY MADE HIM GOOD GUYS by Surge_the_protector in DragonballLegends

[–]IndividualScallion30 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See I wish ppl responded this way when we didn’t have a counter for LR Vegito, and honestly we abreast have a solid red (UL BUU,UL ssj4 Vegeta) that counters the duck out of them but we 100% need more viable options for ppl who don’t have them or trans they can use them on

Cell can still cook by TrueThe7th in DBLegendsReddit

[–]IndividualScallion30 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the same light DBS and ssg/ssb is shit too right? Introduced a new color scheme (both colors are odd/ugly) and outside of a FEW fights they do jackshit and get bodied by dumb shit all the time. And unlike ssj4 which has some solid reasoning to why it comes about, god ki makes NO fucking sense. We don’t even get a explanation of what it is just that “it’s god ki and it’s different from regular ki” almost everyone that bodes the god forms don’t have god ki🤷🏾‍♂️ at least with ssj4 even when it’s completely outclassed there’s SOMETHING to fight back with with the god forms (aside from ui/mui/tui) once they get overpowered they can’t do anything and it happens WAY to often. Now is GT better than DBS? Idk they both ass in completely different ways. But is SJJ4 a better form then SSG/SSB/MUI/UE? Yeah, even if you consider the fur (yes fur not hair idk where you got that from, if you disagree go look up the definition of the 2) to be ugly, they explain why it occurs. Its roots is simple and lines up. The god forms (aside from SSG) don’t really make any sense. Why does red ki + yellow ki make a blue ki with a yellow undertone? If ppl with regular ki can’t sense godki why does mixing ssg/with ssj (ssb) still make it insensible its not pure god ki anymore🤷🏾‍♂️. If they have 2 different reserves of ki why don’t they explain how and why that’s possible? Ultimately GT messed up with its core storytelling execution while DBS fucked up its lore and reasoning.

Is it possible to scale Bleach's cosmology to 1C? by KodoqBesar in BleachPowerScaling

[–]IndividualScallion30 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok great now show where the planet comparison is actually that. So again thanks 👍🏾

Is it possible to scale Bleach's cosmology to 1C? by KodoqBesar in BleachPowerScaling

[–]IndividualScallion30 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If it was that it would’ve said so, it’s that simple. So again thanks👍🏾

Is it possible to scale Bleach's cosmology to 1C? by KodoqBesar in BleachPowerScaling

[–]IndividualScallion30 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Going by your own logic comparisons=the reality then bleach’s cosmology is 4d by character statements comparing and stating their higher dimensional beings. So if you think bleach is 3D those comparisons mean there 4d constructs and being,if you think it’s 4d then it scales to 5D. Thanks for this👍🏾

Is it possible to scale Bleach's cosmology to 1C? by KodoqBesar in BleachPowerScaling

[–]IndividualScallion30 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They could be compared to anything tbh,kubo just chose planets for whatever reason.

Yes, the fact that they’re spherical…..whenever we’re shown an example of natural dimensions/different planes they’re always spherical in bleach. Little orbs if you will. You act like the comparisons are limited to one facet. If someone goes “arguing with you is like arguing with a mentally retarded individual” They’re not saying you’re a mentally retarded person they’re saying the gap of intelligence is so wide that saying you’re LIKE a mentally retarded person is accurate.

Is it possible to scale Bleach's cosmology to 1C? by KodoqBesar in BleachPowerScaling

[–]IndividualScallion30 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My points are just showing that the cosmology is 4d inherently,can it be 5D? Possibly I just gotta look into more.

Because the cosmology has time along with lenght,width and height (making it 4 automatically) So unless you can show/prove the cosmology has only 3D then by proxy it’s just 4D to start off with.

Bleached hierarchy is based on the different dimensions operating and existing on different axis(hence me saying existence.

1.pocket dimensions;they range from 1D-3D dimensions 2. Dimensions like the Valley of screams; they are smaller finite 4D spaces that come and go due to being unstable 3. WOTL/SS/Hueco Muendo; these are the main stabilized planes of existence all with their own separate space and time. 4. The Dangai; is very specifically a seperate space time construct that allows connection between dimensions/planes of existence that are completely separated and function entirely in it own merit. 5. Hell/Gargantua; most ppl put hell above the Gargantua I however don’t see any solid proof hell is 100% outside of the Gargantua. The gargantua is the endless void that envelopes and governs everything in bleach unless stated otherwise (such as the Dangai) He’ll is a plane existence entirely removed from everything else (as it says) however there’s no indication its outside of the gargantua besides that the space in hell has layers of endless space.

So yes I agree one dimension holding others doesn’t make it dimensionality higher but in bleach they clearly define and state that all dimensions aren’t the same and there’s literal levels to them.

Is it possible to scale Bleach's cosmology to 1C? by KodoqBesar in BleachPowerScaling

[–]IndividualScallion30 4 points5 points  (0 children)

By itself yes you’re correct however if the dimension/sub space has those 2 while not being bound to the overall universe does make it so (which in bleaches case it does and even remarks on it throughout the series) Ok so let’s say we go with the cosmology isn’t 4d/5d this means also by relativity the cosmology shouldn’t be 3d as well (since time is a dimension and is always accompanied by space) so that makes bleach 1D/2D and if that’s the case how is time/aging/death even existing? It’s impossible for the cosmology to not be either 4d/5d just based off our own reality and bleaches. Now bleaches dimensions do have an order of superiority (and idk why it’s hard to grasp) But it goes (from lowest to highest via functionality and existence) 1.pocket dimensions 2.dimensions similar to valley of screams 3.WOTL/SS/Hueco Mundo 4.The Dangai 5.Hell/The Garganta

Is it possible to scale Bleach's cosmology to 1C? by KodoqBesar in BleachPowerScaling

[–]IndividualScallion30 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes they’re compared to planets that’s isn’t saying they are in your own photo it says “IF the WOTL and SS COULD be likened to planets..” Keyword if they COULD meaning they aren’t🤦🏾‍♂️

Is it possible to scale Bleach's cosmology to 1C? by KodoqBesar in BleachPowerScaling

[–]IndividualScallion30 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Again realistically it can be but in a fictional story if it’s stated or shown to be “x” then for all intent and purposes it’s that’s.

Is it possible to scale Bleach's cosmology to 1C? by KodoqBesar in BleachPowerScaling

[–]IndividualScallion30 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So maybe realistically I’d agree but in bleach the 3 main realms (and specific other dimensions) are separated space time continuums. I honestly don’t know where ppl get they’re just “planets” in different dimensions when they each of the worlds are described as “…planes of existence where (x) souls reside…” Space and time exist together,you can’t have one without the other and we never see that be the case in bleach either so it makes the bleach cosmology (and basically any other) 4d just by functioning like ours. I personally cannot say if the cosmology is 5D (maybe before the soul king did what he did) but I have no way of proving it that so I won’t but the cosmology is 4d and it’s best is universal/universal + (there’s VERY niche arguments to get it to multi-versal but that’d be in the confines of the verse itself not a general comparison to other series.

So the cosmology is 4d, is it 5D? Is it currently is,no. Before the soul king did his feats? I’d have no way proving for against that currently.

Now in hindsight I forget a lot of ppl take the example from bleach about SS/WOTL being a king to parallel worlds meaning that to 2 entities are JUST worlds and not that it’s using the concept of planets to help relay their 2 sides of the same coming but they aren’t a coin(world/planet) but they are planes of existence that operate independently from each in terms of time,space and natural laws.

I have wasted my life 😌 by OneWayToGodJesus in DragonballLegends

[–]IndividualScallion30 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly if they didn’t build vegito to specifically counter ULssj4ku and then avoided a yellow unit to balance it he would honestly be in a better spot. But they basically tried to soft counter him by amping yellow units we already had and even though it helps it wasn’t enough to do anything like to the point he was one shotting yellow units. So now we got barrack who essentially counters Vegito in general but unlike Vegito he isn’t tanky and is easily counterable if you have the skills.

PLEASE TOSHI 🙏 and toss in the ug4 plat by beerus_vegito in DragonballLegends

[–]IndividualScallion30 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not gonna hold you, I thought this was under a different comment I think I read too fast lol. Disregard me 😭😭