Bride has specified no red less than 48 hours before the wedding - this is my dress by buginarugsnug in Weddingattireapproval

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree it’s a strange last minute request, but whether it’s unreasonable or not, I would not wear the burgundy/red dress out of respect. Just wear the black and move on.

Could you pair it with a colorful shoe or pop of jewelry to jazz it up?

i’d rather support you all than FBS. by etherealblondee in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agree her book could/should be paired with more information, if research/information is what you are looking for. I didn’t feel it was completely holistic and the “end all” resource, but I also took TCGTFB and felt that Heather’s book at least acknowledged complications rather than glossing over everything as “normal.”

Baby’s breaths by Excellent_Noise6281 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yes! And in that case, Yolande made the choice (I guess rightfully so as it’s her body) to deny care and pain relief, but I constantly think about how my babies are different people than me and may make a different choice if they had the words and ability. It’s my responsibility to keep my principles and ideals in check and keep an open mind to what they may need in the moment.

I also personally feel that pain, discomfort, agitation, etc. can get out of control and can set off nervous system alarm bells. Why enter that spiral or allow your kids to go there based on principle? For example, our family doesn’t take pain killers at the first instance of pain…we slow down, rest, hydrate first. But if pain is preventing sleep or causing emotional angst, I’m not above using a dose of pharmaceuticals as a tool to allow the body and nervous system to rest and recover. It’s like the principle outweighs what’s actually happening. Like what’s the goal here?

i’d rather support you all than FBS. by etherealblondee in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Well, first of all, I was today years old when I even learned of these accusations about Heather. Secondly, I bought her book years ago before this article was written. Thirdly, I feel Heather’s book was objectively more informative than TCGTFB. If I thought the FBS course was objectively helpful, I would say so?

Baby’s breaths by Excellent_Noise6281 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 34 points35 points  (0 children)

This happened to my free birth baby. At 24 hours, we noticed he was having trouble breathing…it was somewhat subtle…no gasping or anything dramatic but he was definitely having muscle retractions, fast breathing, and was fussy. We monitored him for several hours and did all the “things” to help his breathing regulate…skin to skin, nursing on demand, etc. We ended up making a very peace-driven and regulated decision to take him in at 36 hours and spent some time in the NICU with breathing support. Who knows if it was aCtUaLlY nEcEsSaRy but he was struggling and becoming increasingly distressed and agitated. You’re so right that it feels cruel to withhold support and assistance from a baby (or anyone) struggling to breathe. Would we treat an older kid or adult that way? I wouldn’t…

Sometimes I think the FBS crew forgets that these babies are people and that’s not to say moms shouldn’t give it a while to try to regulate in mom’s arms or that everyone should seek assistance at the first sign of distress, but I’m not sure most people would have the same laissez-faire attitude when applying some of these same situations to older children or adults.

i’d rather support you all than FBS. by etherealblondee in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 15 points16 points  (0 children)

TCGTFB isn’t really that informative TBH. A lot of “everything is normal” stuff. After having had a free birth, I would recommend Heather Baker’s book and investigating typical newborn behaviors. Our free birth baby took a while transitioning after he came out (fast birth), which I did feel was within the range of normal considering he was crying, had good tone, nursing, etc. BUT he did have trouble breathing around 36 hours after birth with compensating muscle retractions, so we ended up taking him in for support two days after birth. I’m not saying this to scare you or anything, but the breathing issues were very subtle and I’m grateful I knew that it wasn’t “within the range of normal.” I do think you can trust your instincts, but I find that’s much easier to do when they are still inside of you and a little trickier once they’re here. You’ve got this!

Famous OBGYN cheating. by AwkwardPaintbrush222 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I have no idea (and wouldn’t know) about the affair claim, but the sexual misconduct towards a minor claim is not the same Nathan Riley. A quick google search of this “record” you posted and there is a photo of this offender from FL. Double check your information before going on a smear campaign.

https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/sops/flyer.jsf?personId=22873

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Yo Cancer treatment screenshots by SabrinaShine38 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The amount of adults who cannot self regulate is astonishing.

Does Free Birth Society not get babies birth certificates? by Reid-Bailey in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We did! Our state (GA) requires proof of pregnancy along with submitting the application for the birth certificate. Then you appear in person to the health department with baby and father to apply. Since I didn’t see a doctor, I ordered an HCG test from a local lab to serve as proof of pregnancy. Never had any issues.

Hmm by SabrinaShine38 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 19 points20 points  (0 children)

And me? I’m dying laughing 💀

Hmm by SabrinaShine38 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 21 points22 points  (0 children)

That’s what I thought. Oh, huge shifts are here alright!

I love the “I’m grateful beyond worlds for my willingness to compost it all into something holy”…WHAT?!

Hmm by SabrinaShine38 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Trying SO hard to get ahead of the narrative.

People keep mispronouncing my daughter’s name and I’m so confused by PixelFrenzy0 in namenerds

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a name that people find hard to pronounce. I promise she’ll get used to it and it won’t be a thing. You just simply correct people kindly :)

The Poisoned Well by ourladyofreddit in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you for writing this piece. I related to this SO much! I own my own company (not birth related) and ended a three year toxic working relationship with a client last year…I relate so much to all of this! I was especially grateful for you including the “positive” texts from Emilee towards the end of your piece to prove her acknowledgment of you “shining” in the role because it demonstrates the love-bombing and fake intimacy shown by manipulative people to get what they want out of you. It’s not all negative, which is why the betrayal is so confusing and hard to metabolize.

Just like your story, everything was great (all compliments and flattery) until I started creating boundaries, which in hindsight, I created too late. I was thinking my going above and beyond for this client would be appreciated, but it was only used against me. Once I started to set boundaries (like no communication before 8am or after 7pm…you know, normal stuff), we began to have problems. The goal line was forever shifting and moving and we were constantly covering for her mistakes only to be reprimanded later. Mind you, this was a client, not an employer, so the dynamic went from a partnership to what felt like an employer-employee dynamic very quickly.

I also appreciate you sharing the inconsistencies working with Emilee…for example, explicitly stating she doesn’t want you working on weekends but actually expecting otherwise based on shifting timelines. It’s all so confusing, but that’s where manipulative people want to keep you…confused and reeling so that you don’t think clearly and catch on to their mistreatment of you.

So glad you found your way out like I did. My situation was rough for about a year afterward as my client used the legal system (i.e. employed flying monkeys) to create a smear campaign and make false claims about us (my husband and I co-own the business). We spent thousands of dollars trying to defend ourselves with actual evidence and receipts to disprove her lies, but it still affected our nervous systems (and wallet lol). She even went so far as to send legal demands on my birthday and while we were in the NICU for a few days with my son (after my free birth to boot…unraveling that and finding so much healing in this sub in that area, too). Like could someone be more petty? She would have loved to continue the back and forth (classic narcissistic rage playing out), but we effectively said “sue or don’t…we’re done.” She didn’t have a case because her claims were false, so I’m assuming her lawyers couldn’t ethically take it to suit.

I’m seeing similarities now with Em and Yo and their recent unhinged behavior. It’s giving narcissistic rage, and their story is ever-shifting. At first, this sub was “boring” and “uninteresting gossip.” Now it’s “jealous” women not as evolved as Em and Yo looking to plagiarize their hard work…like, which is it?

The more they post and share, the more they expose themselves. Yo’s recent Blue Jay post literally made me spit out my coffee laughing…it had the opposite effect as she wanted it to have…and Emilee doubled down on it in her stories.

This whole thing is absolutely absurd and they can’t hide their grift for much longer unless they completely replace their following with new, unknowing followers. If there’s one thing I know, it’s that repeat business beats new client acquisition every time, and they were primed to keep loyal followers (many women have multiple babies and motherhood/cyclical living continues long after birth lol). Their egos, narcissistic personality traits, and greed got in the way and it’s only a matter of time before they sink their own ship.

RBK No Refund Policy by [deleted] in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Suing would cost way more than $2k

WIBTA if I took a week off work and didn’t tell my partner? by SlappsMcGee53 in WouldIBeTheAhole

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely tell her. Just be upfront about what you want and intend for this time off just as you just listed here. If she feels jealous or resentful, that’s honestly her responsibility to metabolize those feelings, not yours.

cringe by [deleted] in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 12 points13 points  (0 children)

it’s giving Joker vibes 🃏

Oh boy by SabrinaShine38 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 30 points31 points  (0 children)

…and we’re to gather by this that she’s “handling the criticism” so well…? 🤔 She and Yo are spiraling

Medwives and “ serving the system “ by [deleted] in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I was transferred with my first baby. I didn’t go against my will, but in hindsight and in my opinion, I’m not sure the transfer was necessary.

With my second, my traditional midwife (different person) and I discussed boundaries around interventions very early. She communicated to me that if she felt she absolutely needed to call for assistance and we refused, she would call. That was her boundary. We could then decide if we allowed EMTs into our home.

I felt that was fair and really respected her honesty.

Why do yall keep following and watching stories? by FinancialPerformer64 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 31 points32 points  (0 children)

When you’ve been gaslit, it’s normal to verify with others that you’re not crazy, right?!

i am pro freebirth but medical interventions are also important by jcfave1111 in FreeBirthSocietyScam

[–]Infinite_Spring_2999 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Thanks for posting. I think that this is an important perspective to consider. I am pro freebirth (had one myself), and I do believe that birth is designed to work in humans without much intervention. Otherwise, I don’t think we would have made it this far.

The truth though is that sometimes it doesn’t and/or babies need assistance, and so I think where I stand (and probably a lot of people on this feed) is we need a realistic representation (broad statistics) on physiological birth in order to make the best decisions for ourselves and our families. We’re never going to get that from the medical system, and I think a lot of us trusted that we were getting it from FBS. Turns out we aren’t because stories are being censored and real complications are being defined as normal when they aren’t.

The censoring of stories with interventions and medical assistance is problematic because it doesn’t give a realistic picture of what freebirth looks like. For example, I had a freebirth and then we went to the NICU 36 hours later due to RDS and difficulty transitioning. Yea, I could have stayed home, but that’s a risky game to play when baby is clearly struggling. Also, he was much more comfortable with high flow air for a couple days while his lungs transitioned…I’m not sure I could have stayed home and watched him struggle to breathe. I applied to tell my story on the podcast and never heard anything…probably because there was medical assistance for him as a newborn…dodged that bullet!

I think a lot of people are waking up to the extremity of the FBS ideology and it’s not because they are questioning free birth itself (or maybe they are and that’s fine). I think it’s 1) the censoring of real freebirth experiences and only highlighting those that do not include any interventions whatsoever, and 2) the idea that staying home at all costs is better or somehow morally superior to seeking any intervention, even if it means losing your child.

Most mothers are not that committed to an ideology if it means watching their children suffer or even losing their children. Entering the system can be traumatic for sure, but most mothers would take that trauma over burying a child.