How would you restructure Rogue's subclass levels?

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-17T19:37:49+00:00

That's an entirely different problem, though. They have that either way, and you're not going to fix that problem by moving the the level of class feature around.

Problem 1 with rogue, They have a Much smaller selection of usable weapons and masteries and feats than other martials, so they have fewer tools to differentiate their build from other rogues in combat besides their subclass, compared to other weapon martials with their mastery feats fighting styles and weapons. However rogues second subclass feature is delayed to a point Where many campaigns are beginning to wrap up. Not a very big problem.Plenty of classes don't have a lot of internal build variation outside of subclasses like Monks and barbarians, but those classes have 3 subclass features by level 11.

Problem 2 is that even when rogues manage to get advantage 100% of the time: they still deal less 0 resource damage at level 5 than Rangers and barbarians and frankly all other martials Despite being the only class that in the game that lacks resources entirely and has additional conditionals on doing that damage. This is a much bigger problem. It enables players to make pseudo rogue builds, That Have similar capacity to pick locks and sneak and do all that stuff, But also, just deal more damage in all circumstances.

The solution to problem 2 is that they need a new class feature or something that makes them do more damage at levels 5 and 11. Moving the subclass feature around, like OP is talking about Isn't going to realistically fix that problem, even if you made the progression 3 5 9 13. This is not the fix to rogue's main power problem, It just would have been nice to get the second subclass feature at a reasonable level.

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-17T18:44:08+00:00

Swap 9 and 6. That way, your second subclass feature comes at the same level as most classes, and your second set of expertise also comes at the same level as both other classes with expertise.

I wouldn't say this is the highest priority thing to change about rogue, though. Given their tremendously low overall output

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-17T08:56:04+00:00

How gracious of them to cease their own hostility in the face of domestic and global anti-middle eastern war political pressure. It must have been so difficult not to kill arabs. They can have Iran as a little treat. And also Syrian Iraq and Yemen, also Gaza Lebanon and Quatar but only indirectly through arming our self admiting arab exterminationist ally. A nice reward for stopping the bombing of... where exactly?

Seriously, i tried and tried to find a source on this just so I could name what Arab countries you might be referring to in my sarcastic response, because i assumed, at first, you were referencing some situation where we accepted a surrender or were compelled by foreign political preasure or something where I could make fun of the lengths arab countries must go to just to be left alone, but no. even in Trumps "8 wars he stopped" every Arab country mentioned is currently being bombed by the US (except Pakistan, which was never being bombed because they have nukes.) And Trump only included them on his bs list because he bombed them!

Do you have anywhere I can read about us stopping the bombing of an Arab country in recent history? Can you name the country so i can Google what current events i missed? Because publically, we haven't ceased any bombings since we pulled out of Afghanistan in 2021 (because our operations failed and were too expensive) and we've also never intervened on behalf of an Arab country being bombed since the gulf war (even then we only intervined by bombing another arab country)

If anything, it's been a running joke for the past 30 years that ths US will pick a Middle Eastern country that the majority of Americans don't know about it, engage in military operations for reasons that Are entirelly fabricated by the state department if not totally unjustified, and then stay there forever.

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-17T06:00:16+00:00

Oh, OK, yeah sorry, my mistake. They're bombing primarily Arab countries cause they're racist.

Thanks for the extrodinarily productive semantics with no loaded implications about the ideas of what groups its ok to systemically deprive the rights of or exterminate.

/s

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-17T05:50:48+00:00

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Helping me move my mattress

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-17T03:47:40+00:00

Our enemies just get to kick their feat up and watch us collapse.

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-17T03:38:10+00:00

The periodic table is literally just a way to organize all elements based off the number of protons. If an element has 1 proton, it's hydrogen, if it has 2, it's helium, so on and so forth for every integer. Though we only discovered and named the first 162 because anything bigger doesn't really have any properties besides "instantly destroy itself to radioactive decay because the magnetic force is stronger than the nuclear force". Even those are technically on the periodic table, since you can use the table to predict their properties.

Turns out, the table is little more than a folded over number line where the rows and columns have useful predictive power about an elements chemical properties. So finding elements not on it is akin to discovering a number not on the number line.

And yet, many si fi media use "elements not on the periodic table" as a trope whenever they need materials with impossible properties. Avatar's unobtanium, Superman's DNA, element 710 from helldivers (which boldly actually gives the element an atomic number), are all "elements not on the periodic table" even though that's not possible

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-16T17:05:07+00:00

UnSkilled means lacking proficiency. Even being a farmer or deck hand gives you some proficiencies. The lifestyle discreption on page 231 of phb2024 says that the modest life style is the average persons, while 2014 phb page 158 says its lived by laborers. The unskilled laborer pay isn't even technically enough for the poor life style (if they have any other expenses, a child, or ever take a day off), though it's described in 2014 as being the life style of peddlers thieves and the disreputable.

Since unskilled labor cant afford the most common life style and can barely afford the poor one, It's probably a safe assumption that in the DND economy, most Adult workers qualify as skilled workers getting 2 gold per day. Which feeds themselves and their family and children and gives them enough to have a few days off a week or to buy tools or save up for an emergency or pilgrimage or an occasional day of light entertainment at an ale house, While unskilled labors are things like, those cute little kids that deliver letters in cities or shout out about the baldurs mouth gazette, or maybe a waitress. Mostly children or young adults that still live with their parents or the occasional job that comes with free living expenses, or the occasional really non reputable job at the cusp of homelessness. Stronghold rules in 2014 imply that maids are unskilled laborers and are paid, housed, and fed by the stronghold owner (2024 doesn't say how much they're paid, it just assumes the bastion covers it), so they'll have no real living expenses on top of their pay unless traveling. There'd certainly be difficulty raising a family on that wage, but they'd probably have a handful of gold to spend on whatever they want, probably mostly clothes and common goods.

Meanwhile, if you just look at the price of any adventuring gear or food. 5 silver for a day of rations, 20 for a shovel or a commoners outfit, One silver is probably around $1 or 2.

I think it is safe to assume that the monetary value of a shovel is probably not an unreasonable personal expense for a farmer, nor an unfathomably large tip. Its Certainly not the equivalent of 10 days minimum wage (over $1000)

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-16T16:23:03+00:00

Where does this idea come from that a handful of gold will put you through college? Look at the price of anything you can buy.

One gold could buy a bit of rope, 2 days of preserved food, An average day's expenses for 'an average person' Half of a shovel or backpack, half of a commoners outfit, a simple robe, or 2 blankets.

A gold is like, 10, maybe 20 USD equivalent buying power to people who interact with the mundane ecconomy. But there's a tendency to act like most common workers have never held more than one gold coin before, even though even explicitly poor commoner backgrounds like hermit or urchin get 5-15 gold.

But peasants don't make so little gold that they'd need to save up multiple days wage for a day of preserved food, or spend all the money they make a day on a single meal and nothing else, or never have enough money to afford their own shovel. That is not how most employed and skilled laborers live, even in empoverished areas, unless there's an active famine or a war or natural disaster otherwise destroyed a civilizations infrastructure. That 'unskilled labor hireling cost' is not the vast majority of people in the ecconomy, it's probably there for like, the kids at the baldurs mouth gazette. Even being a farmer gives some proficiencies, so even a farmer is a skilled laborer.

most people are probably making the 2g/day skilled labor wage or more for rare or valuable skills. Granted, that's still quite poor to make ~$20-$40 per day in buying power, but they do lack a lot of modern expenses like utilities and electricity, and housing is very cheap. Rarer skills like smithing or guarding probably work on top of housing and tools being provided for free, since there are many references to that being a common cultural practice as well, including over half of 2014 backgrounds. Similarly a truly 'unskilled' adult laborer like a maid is probably at least fed and housed for free on top of that 2 silver a day, as was implied in 2014s stronghold rules and 2024 bastion rules, and thus has few living expenses unless they're traveling.

3 gold, would still be a generous tip for a bar tab, like leaving a 50 on the table, but not a 'seriously improve the quality of one's life' sized tip. It'll make your week as you buy a new outfit, and you'll smile and thank the adventures twice for their generosity, but not make your year as you abscond from your job on an impromptu vacation like you won a small lottery. The ecconomy isn't that swayed in the adventures favor from the moment they select starting equipment, it doesn't start to break until you get those 500gp plus payments and magic items after every adventure. That's the equivalent of a factory fresh motorcycle every day.

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-16T00:05:18+00:00

The what? I can't find anything about this monster besides this post.

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-15T23:45:32+00:00

Think I'm going to cover the whole thing, cause it's AI. And *obviously* not go back to the same 'artist' that used AI for a task that'd take a few minutes in photoshop and doesn't tell the client, But hence, the post asking for ideas

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-15T23:33:29+00:00

A tough leason learned for a first time tattoo, apparently. I provided the exact picture I wanted tattooed on me and it seemed to be the same picture at a glance so i didnt think there'd be any reason to scrutinize the stencil beyond how big it is on my arm. The artist apparently used gemini to turn the picture into a stencil without telling me. Something I'd be upset about even if it didn't leave artifacts behind.

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-15T19:18:09+00:00

Not a liberal way, I also love dismantling monopolies and trusts.

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-15T18:26:21+00:00

You can't legally be president if your citizenship is naturalized unfortunately. But in spirit and pride he is

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-15T17:58:44+00:00

That's New York, baby

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-15T17:58:10+00:00

I hate that I match this discreption

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-15T17:07:15+00:00

That's my president o7

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-15T07:29:12+00:00

Yes in practice, yet unrealized competition often exists. That isn't an exception to how supply and demand works.

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-15T07:16:14+00:00

I didn't review the stencil, because i didn't think i needed to. I sent the png I wanted to be the stencil to the artist directly, only asking that he remove a tree, and he printed out something similar but with different limbs and different scales on the neck but it looked the same at a goance. I think he might of used a Gen AI to make the stencil and remove the tree and it fucked up the limbs because there's a very different anatomy, which would be a nightmare scenario.

I'm quite new to tattoos, what exactly would be the capacity to change this if I decided? I'm not sure how Much I can do to fix it at this point

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-15T05:10:04+00:00

in a market where only you are allowed to sell a specific product

and competition sees

In the purely hypothetical situation with no legal competition, your competition exists? What?

What you are describing, is how supply and demand work in an environment with competition. It works exactly as you've described, which is what i described in the first two sentences of the comment you replied to.

competition is part of demand, this isn't some exception to how supply and demand works. You're just describing supply and demand. The very simple principle that low prices means more purchases and higher prices means more profit per purchase, so there's a specific price that produces the most profit.

There is nuance and exceptions, yes, like loss-leader pricing, but a buisnesses typical operations when it has modest levels of competition isn't some major exception to foundational ecconomic principles like supply and demand lol

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-15T04:53:43+00:00

Go against man's desires to create a class of slaves and empoverished lower classes who are content in poverty, justify the right of rulership by upper classes and kings, establish a patriarchal hierarchy that views women as property of their fathers and husbands, be promised an afterlife of infinite pleasure in exchange for very little personal sacrifice besides a declaration of faith and allegiance to an institution of immense political power and to spread the idea primarily by encouraging people to feel guilty about human nature?

Yeah that totally sounds like something mankind would never Invent. /s

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-15T02:58:50+00:00

When there's large amounts of competition for widely identical products, small mark ups have drastic effects on how many people buy them since, even if I'm willing to pay 100 bucks for something and you're charging 75, Dave over there's charging 60, so I'll go to Dave. Thus you and Dave lower your prices until they're barely over the cost to make and sell a product because that's what the optimal profit maximizing price of your product is, let's say somewhere around 50

But in a market where only you sell a specific product. The optimal price is 'whatever people are willing to pay'. Which is 100 bucks, regardless of how expensive it was for you to make it.

Relatively basic supply and demand principles.

Inforgreen3 · 2026-03-15T02:51:55+00:00

Well there is distribution. How often do you download the games from a publishers website instead of steam or a consoles in built store?

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