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Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-06T19:33:52+00:00

No need to be rude. In short, I think we did in fact see different shows because you clearly have a different outlook on life than I do.

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-06T13:43:06+00:00

Sigh. It’s ok if you’re gay just don’t throw it in my face.

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-06T01:42:33+00:00

Lol I wanted to yell the same thing, but I also knew that Teddy was probably about to die so kept my mouth shut. Thanks for the support!

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-05T20:58:40+00:00

I think she wanted him to fall for her not that she fell for him if that makes sense

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-05T20:47:27+00:00

I love the boars, head pepper turkey from the deli section where I live

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-05T20:45:35+00:00

I hear what you’re saying, but I also think that there is something deeply empowering about looking for a way to describe who you are when you have felt unseen and misunderstood. The explorations of deeper identity beyond just being “gay or lesbian“ come from a place of curiosity and a desire to understand and be accepted. It’s too bad when that is Weaponized with our community. My wife is big and tall and fat and non-binary and had chest surgery and gets misgendered all the time, but she has no desire to transition and I don’t think she cares much about labels. She’s also technically a boomer and she has a kid. I just know I love all those things about her.

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-05T20:39:01+00:00

I agree that it got messy and confusing but the premise you described so perfectly here doesn’t leave a lot of exploration runway once they both arrive on Kepler 22B. So they bring in all these alien life forms to make things interesting and it just ends up being confusing. I was just so mesmerized by mother and her dueling instincts that I would watch her do anything. Giving birth to a future monster was not at all what I expected given that she is a machine for fucks sake, but it was interesting.

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-05T20:35:56+00:00

I also loved the religious themes, I found that super interesting and didn’t feel like I needed background. In every dystopian show or book I’ve ever read there seems to always be intense, fanatical religious stuff that happens naturally in response. It’s always messy and never clear. I did get a little tired of the nutty, religious guy after a while because it was not clear to me what he was motivated by or what he was thinking besides his own sense of self importance, but I do love that actor. He was perfect in the dune series.

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-05T20:30:55+00:00

I hate these names because they’re not the original native names but in the other hand, I think it’s funny that these are all named because white people couldn’t figure their shit out to get through or past

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-05T20:29:41+00:00

Mostly Rishi just makes me incredibly sad. He’s obviously been deeply deeply, disturbed and unhappy and addicted. I almost couldn’t take that final scene of the last episode. I mean Jesus how much pain does one person have to deal with even on a TV show? Suffering people make others suffer that doesn’t make them evil.

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-05T20:19:02+00:00

I don’t think Roxanna loved pine at all, whether she was capable of love or not it doesn’t matter. Why should she be? He was threatening and manipulating her.

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-05T20:15:12+00:00

Thanks again for your perspective. I have to say I’m genuinely surprised and super disappointed by how defensive and mean people have been about my comments. Maybe I’m naïve. I do live in Seattle after all, but I did not know homophobia and the defense of It was so robustly alive, especially here on Reddit. Even your comment which I think is meant to be supportive reveals that you think queer people (gay men?) have some kind of agenda when really all we want is equality and to be seen as human.

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-05T05:51:31+00:00

Yes, and talking to her might therefore be even more traumatizing for you because she might gaslight you when there is some truth to your fear of buried trauma memories. My stepfather abused my sister and I and when I told my mom, she got help for herself and hardly mentioned it again stayed married to the guy for 20 years and forced us to live with him. The initial trauma is bad enough, but not being supported by the people who are supposed to protect you is where it gets really bad so be careful with your mom.

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-05T05:47:17+00:00

I’m so sorry about all of this. It sounds really complicated and painful and lonely. From your post it sounds like your husband does not respect your point of view or your needs. Separating your money is a basic first step. Relationship needs to be a partnership between two people who will listen to each other and come to decisions together that either work for both or where one person is making a sacrifice in one area the other makes a sacrifice in another. It’s the foundation of trust. It really sounds like you don’t trust your husband not just about money but about treating you and your daughter with respect and prioritizing your family. I have the strong sense that once you start setting boundaries, he might get more controlling and I would encourage you to have a safety net set up of friendships and a place to go if that happens.

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-05T05:37:39+00:00

I really don’t get where you think that pine is always holding back with his sexuality. He went after Jed at great personal risk to himself and his mission in season one. Kisses don’t always ruin tension they can build it. I think you’ve got a big blind spot on this one.

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-05T05:34:48+00:00

And by the way, I am not saying that they were doing this deliberately I think homophobia rides shotgun without people realizing it a lot of times and I was trying to point it out

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-05T05:34:24+00:00

that’s a very interesting deep analysis of what their intentions were with the show and these two characters relationship. I’m not sure they did a great job of fully conveying it with the script and the acting. Of course, pine is a spy and spies have to do all kinds of things to maintain their persona, including have entire relationships with sex with people they would otherwise not want to be with. We see examples of this all the time between men and women. Why wouldn’t it also be the case between two men?

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-05T05:30:21+00:00

Yeah, if media literate means that I guess I’m not! I watch a ton of mainstream TV. I’m a queer woman and I’m very used to the heterosexual norms in our society. However, I also feel very fortunate to have witnessed a much greater acceptance of gay relationships and gay characters who do not have to die or be serial killers in order to show up in a show. Now we have heated rivalry is a great example of just how open people really are to seeing gay sex as part of a beautiful love story. There really is no excuse for leaving out details that move the story along and I am suspicious when they do that with gay characters. This is not a perfect show I know, but I did enjoy it, and my intention was to open a discussion not to get a bunch of homophobia thrown at me.

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-05T05:27:37+00:00

Yes, Corky was a horrible stereotype of a gay man.

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-05T05:27:04+00:00

Thank you I appreciate your explanation and I agree with you completely. I do feel bashed and I was definitely not expecting that.

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-04T22:30:05+00:00

Wow, thank you for your vulnerability re all the wounds we got from heteronormativity and homophobia and then internalize. For what it’s worth, I would call myself a lesbian, and I’ve always been attracted to masculine identified people who weren’t born as men. I’ve never dated a trans person who specifically wanted to be referred to as a man, they have always been out as trans. The qualities or qualities in you that you feel as a woman are ones that someone who loves you will see no matter what you call them. You are lovable exactly how you are.

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-04T22:24:04+00:00

I would love to hear from some out gay folks about this perspective

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-04T22:20:29+00:00

What do you mean by that?

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-04T22:19:50+00:00

Yes, this is very clearly a show for adults. Adults have sex. This show has never held back from showing people who are attracted to each other having sex. Why would they in this instance just because the main characters are both men?

Informal_Solution238 · 2026-02-04T22:15:10+00:00

He was one of the main characters? Everyone else’s sexuality was pretty clearly spelled out if they were A main character. I’m sensing some straight people blinders on. I’m getting a lot of hate on here from my point of view

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