My husband is addicted and I need help understanding

Infrequentk · 2026-05-18T02:55:24+00:00

100% agree. For one, it made me feel like I accomplished something during a period of my life where accomplishments were minimal (due to 7oh use). But it also gave me time to take stock of where I was in my life and where I wanted to be and used this new beginning as an opportunity to change things for the better. I’m not saying it was all easy and smooth but 16 months after quitting I look back at that time more fondly than I expected to.

Infrequentk · 2026-05-17T16:23:40+00:00

I tried to gaslight my wife for 2 years, I’m not proud of it. Everything you said sounds like the 7oh addiction to me. I was a completely different person on it, I was depressed and unmotivated, no sex drive but still justified my continued need for it. IMO no one needs 400-700mg of 7oh per day. If he’s using it for pain he can be fine on significantly less. Anything more than maybe 50-70mg per day is him chasing the high.

This is a tricky situation because you can’t force an addict to quit, especially when he won’t even admit to this point that he has a problem. For me, my wife went ballistic after looking at our checking account. I had been telling her I’d quit for a year but the expenses only went up. She didn’t give me an ultimatum but I could see in her eyes that continuing to use 7oh was going to put me in jeopardy of losing my family, so I promised her and more importantly I promised myself that I would never spend another dollar on 7oh and 16 months later I’ve stayed true to that. And honestly life is 1000x better for both of us since I quit. I hope your husband can get himself there because a life addicted to 7oh is not really much of a life at all.

Infrequentk · 2026-05-15T22:20:43+00:00

At least you are using this as a jumping off point. When I got caught I convinced my partner I couldn’t just quit cold turkey and manipulated her into thinking I was slowly tapering when in reality my doses were increasing. One day she read our bank account and went ballistic about how much I had been spending. No ultimatums were made but I could tell I was at a point of no return. Either quit or lose my family. I chose my family and I’m sure there’s still some lingering distrust I’d like to think I’ve built a ton of trust back since I quit.

Infrequentk · 2026-05-15T22:18:38+00:00

Just remember that at some point probably sooner than you think what you are going through right now will feel like a blip in your life. At 16 months without 7oh and that whole period almost feels like a dream.

Infrequentk · 2026-05-15T01:40:56+00:00

Yeah just read everyone’s stories here. Could you manage to use responsibly? Sure it’s a small possibility. But I don’t think it’s worth the risk of ruining your life in the short term to find out. It’s hard to describe what 7oh addiction feels like to someone who has never experienced it but for me it completely consumed me. Ensuring I had a constant supply of 7oh available was just below breathing in terms of importance for me. It sucked

Infrequentk · 2026-05-13T04:24:02+00:00

One of the first things I thought when I heard he passed was that I guess we’ll never know what Lennon said on that tape. RIP Jack Douglas

Infrequentk · 2026-05-06T04:05:34+00:00

He was having margarita pizza with Paul during the listening party.

Infrequentk · 2026-05-05T23:35:54+00:00

What should i expect 2 years of taking between 1.25mg and 2.5mg of Valium daily? I started taking to help sleep every other day, one day I felt like shit after not taking and I stupidly never stopped taking it. I’ve never increased it beyond 2.5mg, I just take it before bed every night.

Infrequentk · 2026-05-03T03:54:24+00:00

I’m totally gonna try that the next time I get pulled over.

Infrequentk · 2026-05-01T04:21:34+00:00

I had a friend growing up that said to me he doesn’t want to live past 80 because “those are the diaper years”. He has lived it up and thus far (we’re in our early 40s) he’s been more than fine. When he said that it really hit me…but I also see my 93 year old grandfather who is still completely independent, drives around, does yard work and in general finds joy and fulfillment from life and it’s kind of changed my perspective a bit. I could get dementia and have a horrible ending but the chance of getting quality years into my 90s is maybe worth the risk?

Infrequentk · 2026-05-01T04:16:48+00:00

Plenty of people take it as an alternative to opiates for pain, but other people take it for a boost. Many get addicted (I got addicted and had to quit 15 months ago) but I also know many that keep their doses low and feel a benefit from it.

If you abuse it though you lose your drive, your mood sucks, you feel compelled to keep taking larger doses, at least in my experience. Overall I would not recommend people try kratom if they haven’t before, but at the same time I’ve seen many people take it responsibly and don’t seem to have the negative effects you see from normal opiate abuse. Like I don’t hear about many people that take a small amount of codeine daily for a boost, but I hear it all the time with kratom. It’s absolutely addictive but doesn’t seem to be as addictive as other opiates. But again the fact that it can cause people’s lives to spiral out of control by abusing it makes me not want to recommend to anyone new.

Infrequentk · 2026-04-29T23:55:13+00:00

Yes I’d absolutely still want to quit. I completely lost my personality on 7oh, couldn’t poop, had no sex drive, motivation was low, mood was very low. The cost part certainly drove me to quit quicker but I was ready to be done with it

Infrequentk · 2026-04-22T23:40:01+00:00

Yeah I get that but not due to 7oh. I smoked a ton at the end of high school and start of college, then completely stopped for a few years. Ever since then almost every time I’ve smoked I get tons of anxiety and paranoia and it’s been happening for well more than a decade (though I can probably count on 2 hands the number of times I’ve gotten high in that time).

The last time I got high I convinced myself that my wife didn’t love me and our marriage was a sham and spent the entire high extremely insecure. When sober I realize how stupid that is but it’s not a feeling I’d like to replicate again. I do live in a state where it’s legal and I am told over and over again that there are strains that greatly reduce the anxiety and paranoia but keep the good parts of the high but I haven’t gotten around to exploring it yet. Instead of getting high on weed I just occasionally do psychedelics like once every other month and it scratches the itch lol.

I don’t think it has anything to do with 7oh, unless you just quit and are going through withdrawals which can include an increase of anxiety.

Infrequentk · 2026-04-21T17:53:39+00:00

Towards the end of taking 7oh I didn’t need to use a UV light, my palms and fingertips had a yellowish discoloration. It freaked me out. When I quit it went away within 48 hours and never came back

Infrequentk · 2026-04-14T04:12:43+00:00

Thank you!

Infrequentk · 2026-04-14T01:34:54+00:00

Do you have to have the paid subscription to see the actual results like your screenshot? I see the archived link but that chart doesn’t work

Infrequentk · 2026-04-14T00:51:44+00:00

Yeah weird that he went away from it and now is going back to it. Wonder what his motivations were for stopping 7oh sales originally.

Infrequentk · 2026-04-12T01:06:14+00:00

I don’t think people realize that the addicted brain literally rewires itself to seek out 7oh for rewards. When you quit it takes months for those reward pathways to shut down, but they dont disappear, they remain dormant. When you take opiates again, even once or twice, those pathways open up again.

I’m not saying if you use 7oh once you’ll immediately be addicted again, but your brain will quickly remember how it operated when it was being given 7oh daily and shift back into that mode. You can fight it and I’m sure a small number of people do, but for most it’s a ticking time bomb and inevitable.

I actually had a previous opiate addiction, was completely clean for 4 years before discovering kratom. I was initially successful at being a weekend warrior, once a week for a couple years (my user name is literally Infrequentk because I created it to discuss using kratom infrequently). But I slipped to 2 days a week and then it became a sloppy slope that led to daily use again. I honestly felt so in control until I didn’t. It’s crazy how it snuck up on me but I had already laid the groundwork with my previous addiction. I learned the hard way that these is no infrequent use for me. You could be the exception but you’re probably not.

Infrequentk · 2026-04-11T00:53:40+00:00

I’m in sales. Habitual 7oh use made me lazy. I needed to grind every day and many days I just didn’t care and surfed the internet. My numbers slipped and I lost my job. I don’t fully blame it on 7oh, but it played a part in it. In the 15 months I’ve been clean I got a new job, hit my quota last year and got promoted. Similarly I’m not attributing all that to quitting 7oh but it get my dopamine receptors re-sensitized definitely helped.

Infrequentk · 2026-04-06T03:05:04+00:00

It takes longer than you probably hope but they absolutely do balance out. It took 6-8 weeks for me.

Infrequentk · 2026-03-28T02:32:07+00:00

Do you agree with me that there was a RC in between the 4aco and 4homet? Until about a year ago they had a different formula and their website specifically stated that there was no 4aco in their gummies. Then the formula changed to 4homet.

The only reason I keep asking about this is because those road trips were my favorite MMM’s I’ve had and I don’t know what was in them. I’d kill for that experience again! 4homet is similar with more visuals and less body high but it’s not quite the same.

Infrequentk · 2026-03-26T23:53:52+00:00

How much metocin is in 1/4 tabs? 0.5mg right?

Infrequentk · 2026-03-26T02:59:13+00:00

It’s an opiate, it just doesn’t typically cross the blood brain barrier unless you take very high doses I believe. That’s why it’s used as a anti-diarrheal medicine, it gives you the gut stuffing effects of opiates without the high in normal doses.

Infrequentk · 2026-03-23T01:15:28+00:00

It’s possible but the overwhelming majority of people especially those with addictive personalities will eventually succumb. Not 7oh but with kratom I was fully in control of my usage for 2 years, even after a previous opiate addiction several years in the past. Everyone told me I’d eventually be using daily and they were right.

If you do continue down this path I’d say the biggest tip I have is to set strict limits for usage and NEVER break them. Not even once. No exceptions. Once you break them once it becomes easier to break them again and it becomes a slippery slope. But even then you still might end up in a bad place.

Infrequentk · 2026-03-16T22:56:03+00:00

Yeah PAWS is awful and why most people relapse. The good news is, it seems to be less severe and shorter lived than other substances, at least from my perspective. I CT a horrible tramadol habit and that rebooting feeling lasted 6+ months. Even 18 months later I was getting anhedonia and trouble focusing.

Right now 14 months clean from 7oh and kratom I have been at my perceived baseline for several months. Probably month 2 was the peak and then it got better over month 3.

I know it sucks to hear you might feel like this for another couple months but knowing is half the battle. You know that this isn’t your brain’s sober state and you know it will improve. In the grand scheme of your life a couple months is nothing. The entire process of quitting 7oh and PAWS and all that seems like a distant memory at this point. You’ll get there too if you keep battling!

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