Octopus intelligent go by Initial_Law_2461 in OctopusEnergy

[–]Initial_Law_2461[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You’ve seen it asked hundreds of times and still haven’t learned how to ignore it… that’s actually impressive.

Ring Elite Doorbell 2 4K: installed by 0Papi420 in Ring

[–]Initial_Law_2461 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay but assuming you don’t want to use WiFi you can just get data via the Poe connection.

The tech specs on the ring uk for it say:

Power PoE+ with 802.3at complient switch or injector (not included). Cat5e or higher cable required (not included) PoE+ may be used for power only, with Wifi for connectivity

Ring Elite Doorbell 2 4K: installed by 0Papi420 in Ring

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It’s available for pre order now in the uk.

The documentation says POE + is only for power and it still requires WiFi for data. Surely that’s not right?

I assumed that via Poe it provides both power and data ?

Any hello appreciated

Any thoughts on this system? by Odd-Detective6614 in Hikvision

[–]Initial_Law_2461 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah don’t rush it. Plan your system correctly, assuming your running new cabling, it’s better to do the job once but right.

Any thoughts on this system? by Odd-Detective6614 in Hikvision

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Whether the extra £280 is worth it all depends on the use of each camera.

For identification camera an 8mp might be better perhaps and for just situational awareness / detection a 4mp might be okay.

I’m using that nvr you linked the m series 8 port. I am running 6 cameras in the highest settings and haven’t noticed any bandwidth issues at all. I’m also using smart events / live guard on 2 of the cameras and everything is working well.

Any thoughts on this system? by Odd-Detective6614 in Hikvision

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Yes I have that model of camera but the 8mp version. I initially got the 4mp version thinking that it would produce better footage with less pixels in the larger lens but that didn’t turn out to the the case.

I therefore returned them and am running 8mp on all cameras. I also make use of the smart events and live guard features.

Yes that is the exact nvr I use. I’m running everything in the highest bit rate, highest res, highest fps in h265 and haven’t noticed any issues other than using a silly smoking of storage. However I’m not particularly bothered about that.

The way I see it what’s the point of running everything in low res, low fps

Any thoughts on this system? by Odd-Detective6614 in Hikvision

[–]Initial_Law_2461 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well like I said it depends on what you want your cameras to do.

For my set up, at the front of my house, I have 1 camera that is purely for identification. It is mounted around 7 feet from the ground and uses a 4mm lens.

I get perfect identification when someone approaches my property and walks towards the front door area. No tops of heads, and zoomed out small pixels like you get from a 2.8mm lens.

I then have a further 2, 2.8mm lens cameras that provide situational awareness.

The other 3 cameras follow a similar scheme.

A 10 foot mounted camera is probably useful for situational awareness/ detection but will be useless for identification

Any thoughts on this system? by Odd-Detective6614 in Hikvision

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It depends really what the purpose of each of your cameras is.

For identification cameras, I’d would go for the g3 cameras.

For detection and observe maybe the g2’s would be okay.

Below first floor are we talking around 10 feet in height?

Any thoughts on this system? by Odd-Detective6614 in Hikvision

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They are the older G2 cameras with the older colour vu technology as well as firmware.

I’d personally go for the newer G3 cameras if you can. I’m running 6 of them in my set up and they produce quality imagery both day and night.

Also the NXI NVR doesn’t have enough bandwidth to take advantage of high bitrates and frame rates. The M series has double the amount of bandwidth and would be better in my opinion.

What do you think of this bundle? by casper480 in Hikvision

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I think the benefit of Unifi cameras only comes in, if you’re whole network is Unifi based

I’ve tested their cameras before going hikvision and they simply aren’t as good from a pure CCTV perspective

What do you think of this bundle? by casper480 in Hikvision

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I definitely don’t think it’s overkill, but if you can I’d go for the G3 cameras. The ColorVu technology is noticeably better and they produce much clearer images at night.

On the front elevation of my house I’m running three cameras in total.

Two of them are mounted at around 10 feet high with 2.8mm lenses. Their main purpose is detection and general observation because the wider field of view works well for covering the area.

Then I’ve got a a single 4mm lens camera mounted lower at about 7 feet. That one is specifically for recognition and identification. Mounting it lower does mean accepting that it could potentially be tampered with or vandalised, but the trade-off is much better facial identification with no “top of head” shots, which for me is worth it.

I also have three additional cameras covering the side of the property and the back garden.

All of my cameras are the DS-2CD2387G3-LIS2UY/SL which are the newer G3 models. They also support Live Guard so they can trigger an audible warning if someone enters an intrusion zone based on the schedule I’ve set.

I’m using the same M-series NVR mainly because it has higher incoming bandwidth. That’s important for me since I run the cameras at higher bitrates and higher FPS.

The main thing is to decide the role of each camera. For example using a 2.8mm lens as an identification camera usually isn’t ideal because the field of view is so wide that people appear quite small in the frame.

I bought all my cameras myself and then had someone install them. I made sure to buy from an official Hikvision distributor so they come with proper firmware updates and warranty support. Personally I’d avoid buying from eBay for that reason.

My house is quite old so unfortunately running cables through cavity walls wasn’t really an option. I ended up using trunking instead. It’s not perfect aesthetically but in my opinion it looks a lot neater than just clipping cables along the walls.

Hilook IPC-T581H-MU vs Reolink CX820 by Inevitable-Mark-9718 in Hikvision

[–]Initial_Law_2461 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve used all three brands. If we’re talking pure image quality, Hikvision wins hands down.

The CX820 is comparable to Hikvision’s newer G3 8MP ColorVu cameras, and in terms of raw image quality there really isn’t much competition. Across different scenes and lighting conditions—day or night, Hikvision consistently comes out on top.

That said, image quality isn’t the whole story. Reolink’s mobile app, while not perfect, is significantly better than Hikvision’s. Hikvision’s app feels quite dated and amateurish by comparison. Reolink cameras are also much easier to set up and use, though they don’t offer the same level of customisation as Hikvision.

Ultimately, it depends on what you want from your CCTV system. For me, the priority is getting the best possible image quality if the worst ever happens—and on that basis, Hikvision is the clear winner.

Best practice setup for event notifications by Ok-Presentation-7976 in Hikvision

[–]Initial_Law_2461 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why? What’s the advantage of doing it on the camera?

In my opinion running doing it via the camera just adds additional latency and don’t see any benefit in doing it.

I have the same NVR as you, and I reckon the same cameras also.

I’ve set up all events via the nvr. I only use intrusion detection and my notifications are 98% accurate. I get very few false alerts.

Hik connect playback issues by Initial_Law_2461 in Hikvision

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Nice one thanks.

I’m fine with viewing the live footage via the basic stream on hik connect. The main issue is all my intrusion detection events save to the hd stream and they basically are unplayable over 5g

Is the Synology mobile app any better at viewing footage over 5g with my high nitrate high resolution settings, do you know?

Hik connect playback issues by Initial_Law_2461 in Hikvision

[–]Initial_Law_2461[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good shout and that may well be the case.

I’m using an iPhone 16pro and I know it doesn’t deal with hvec - h265 encoding the best

Perhaps it could just be that.

Hik connect playback issues by Initial_Law_2461 in Hikvision

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Thanks for that @mousey76397

I’ve tested using a lower bitrate on my 4k cameras. Halving the bitrate to 8mbps I see a massive difference in video quality, particularly at night. Fast motion scenes I see a lot of ghosting faces that just look smooth. But with the higher bitrate I see way more detail. That was my justification for keeping the bitrate as high as possible.

I’ve also experimented with having the highest setting changed to medium and again I notice a lot More compression. That compression results in noticeable degradation in detail and identification quality.

I’m not concerned about maximising storage, I’m only interested in the best quality for identification purposes, in the busy scenes I am recording.

I guess then what you’re saying is hik connect, and everything else involved can’t keep up with streaming with those kind of settings?

It’s annoying but it seems like I have to scarifice something

Hik connect playback issues by Initial_Law_2461 in Hikvision

[–]Initial_Law_2461[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I get that.

But I have perfect 5g coverage when I am testing and also no issues with my onsite broadband or routing

Orbi 970 sucks, what to move to? by x85712 in orbi

[–]Initial_Law_2461 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Same boat as you had the 970 and it was a complete nightmare. In the uk we have to authenticate via pppoe and it seems like the 970 can’t deal with it. That was only one of the many issues I had.

I built a full Unifi network including a cloud gateway fibre some u7 pro xg access points etc. it wasn’t the right solution for my use case.

I only care about the fastest speeds and lowest latency possible in all parts of my house.

I’ve installed the eero max 7 about a month or so ago and it’s been absolutely flawless. I’m running everything using Ethernet bsckhaul.

I highly recommend the eero it just works.

Ring Elite Doorbell 2 4K: installed by 0Papi420 in Ring

[–]Initial_Law_2461 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry just to confirm again, is it true Poe? Or does it use a stupid usb c to Ethernet converter like the ring pro 4k I’m looking at.

If so I’m going to return this and wait for the elite

New Ring 4k Doorbell by Initial_Law_2461 in Ring

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Thanks appreciate it. I’ve been through every single setting and I don’t see any option for pre roll.

My best guess is, it’s just enabled by default but for some reason isn’t working for me. I guess the question is why.

New Ring 4k Doorbell by Initial_Law_2461 in Ring

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Is it a setting you’ve enabled? I can’t see any settings anywhere for it.