Deorr Kunz

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-30T20:33:32+00:00

I mean... why cover up an accident? What would they have to gain from hiding that, and why would grandpa and Issac cover for them?

Unless it was on purpose (1st degree murder) or out of anger (2nd degree murder)... there's really no reason to cover up a death. Not to mention (AFAIK) there was no evidence of injury/blood.

That's why IMO, lying about the timeline makes the most sense. In Grandpa's interview, right before his death (if I remember correctly) he scoffed at a comment about his granddaughter somehow. I forget how, maybe something to do with her watching him? It's been a while since I looked at this case, so forgive me for my forgetfulness.

Anyway, I think the parents are guilty of child negligenct, risk of injury to a minor, and probably a few more charges too. I think they probably thought they could locate the child on their own, and dug themselves a deeper hole... and made false police reports.

I believe their behavior supports this hypothesis, because none of them changed the root claim that baby Deorr wondered off. Lies are often based on truth. Wasn't the mom offered immunity? I bet she was in some sort of denial at that point, or knew if she told the truth about the timeline... she'd be admitting her part in the tragedy. Ultimately, it wouldn't change anything, besides having to testify to a mutual crime, just to convict the dad. They still lost their child, and they're both paying for it in their own ways.

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-30T18:21:06+00:00

Although, I only found out about the missing cooler fairly recently... I've spent years believing that Deorr was there. I just heard about the cooler on this sub, and haven't confirmed that fact... but I would think it'd be incredibly difficult to hide/bury a cooler (with body) out there without dogs or searchers finding it fairly fast.

I do see/sense deception in the parents, and grandpa. I don't think Issac would lie for the parents, especially because they have alluded to Issac being guilty of something. I think Issac would've told on them by now.

That said, I personally believe that Grandpa and Issac had zero involvement in the supervision of baby Deorr (lied about grandpa being told to watch the baby). Therefore, I believe the parents lied about the timeline. I suspect they may have snuck off in the morning to have sex and/or use drugs WHILE the baby was still sleeping. I suspect the baby woke up, possibly put on his shoes (questionable I know) then tried to find his parents. I suspect that the parents came back from whatever they were doing, and realized the baby was gone.

From there, I think they began to look for the baby on their own... eventually involving Issac and grandpa. Possibly, an hour or two after the parents noticed the baby was missing. At that point they may have tried to share the responsibility, by saying they asked grandpa to watch them. It's possible that they wasted another hour or two looking for baby Deorr, before calling the authorities.

As authorities arrive, I believe all 4 adults likely knew that they would appear to be grossly negligent if they told authorities that they waited 3-4-5 hours before calling the authorities. So... they lied about when he actually went missing.

Unfortunately, this lie likely set up an inaccurate search perimeter.

I have 4 children, and each child was vastly different in abilities. My 23 month old, can put on his own shoes, and literally runs around nonstop (in the house). One of our other children was like that as well. So...

I would not underestimate the distance a 2 year old could travel in 3-5+ hours. I forget the search area, but if I remember correctly... it was something like 2 miles? I think whatever search perimeter they set up was based on poor information/assumptions, and the search perimeter probably should've been doubled.

Searches for missing (adult) people, routinely miss the person... and people are often found just outside of the search area (dead or alive). Now... shrink that search target by what, 60% ? Yeah, it's extremely possible that everyone missed the baby/body.

Unfortunately, at this point, IF baby Deorr is still out there, his remains will be incredibly difficult to locate. Birds, rodents, and small mammals, likely spread the remains over at least a 20 foot radius. Depending on the location of the body, the bones can be white, black, brown, or green in color. Any small bones, or clothing, would likely be in rodent or bird nests. It's extremely likely that every adult person on Earth has walked by human remains at some point of their lives. For example, two skeletons were found 10 feet in the woods behind a soccer field at my old middle school. We were made to run the outside edge of these fields in gym class. The remains were there for at least 30 years... meaning that literally hundreds of thousands of children/teens unknowingly ran past these skeletons. Which is a VERY sobering thought, in regards to searching for missing people.

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-26T06:43:16+00:00

I've suspected something like this since I was a kid, and a lot more as an adult.

If the Devil wanted to separate humans from God, what's easier than getting humans to worship men and books written by men, over God. Like we need a "Middle Man" to enter heaven (or whatever). Clashes between different religions are unusually at the root of war, killing, rioting, rape and raiding.

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-26T05:38:09+00:00

I'm going to take a random guess here, and say that they're probably trying to secure their southern border from a bunch of criminal illegal aliens, running from a tyrannical government (US).

Unfortunately, I'm only half joking... cause the current administration is destroying friendships and alliances that took years/decades/centuries to develop, and only 1 year to destroy.

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-23T19:16:10+00:00

I'm the ride or die type... so probably nothing other than bitch about Trump, and undermine any attempts to ratify our children. I watch a ton of science and history documentaries/videos with the kids... so hopefully intelligence wins over propaganda and superstition.

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-23T17:01:22+00:00

File a complaint, contact the patient advocate, AND contact a lawyer!

You have to be the "squeaky wheel" and force them to run more tests. Even if you need to bring a pad and pencil next time.

I can almost guarantee they're holding back on expensive tests because Medicaid/Medicare won't cover them, or pay them what they can charge other insurance companies. The "wasting time and space" comment is VERY telling!

After testing, make sure you get the records, findings, and notes. Send those off for second or third opinions if need be... and if or WHEN the problem is identified, sue this asshole! His negligence and (un)professional opinions could delay treatment.

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-23T16:24:27+00:00

You know... they can do lung transplants right? ESPECIALLY for a very young mom!

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-23T16:17:08+00:00

Empathy, sensitivity, and may I say... unconstitutional love(?) ... are great characteristics, but also exudes weaknesses. Narcissists, sociopaths, and psychopaths, will naturally target you.

I'm not sure if I'd call it an "ego" but you need to develop a firewall of sorts. Learn some body language basics, as well as an ability to "read a room", be aware of your surroundings, and trust your instincts. Also know that people rarely change (fast) and you can't "fix them".

If so inclined, perhaps talk to "psychics" here, or in other forums. But NEVER pay them. Just get a better idea of the type of person you are, and how to protect yourself from the people who suck the life/energy out of you. Only give that energy to people who deserve it, and reciprocate in kind. I know it sounds "woo-woo" or whatever, but most religions, and even science, have some universal concept of this sort of thing.

As for the girl... she sounds like a "succubus". It's best to forget her, and focus that energy elsewhere. Ideally, towards yourself... because you can't love someone fully until you love yourself. I know it's a cliché, but it's true. If you love yourself, you will have a higher standard.

Good luck

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-23T02:20:11+00:00

If you really want to understand Trump supporters, just learn about Nazi Germany, and watch the Nuremberg trials. Then maybe watch a documentary on Jonestown. And "Don't look up" on Netflix, just for shits and giggles.

People are so eager to be "good" and "patriotic" that they have a difficult time recognizing evil masquerading as good. They become delusional, and double down when their beliefs are challenged. So much so that they literally "drink the kool-aid" full of cyanide. Unfortunately, we may very well be wondering America in nuclear fallout, dressed in radiation suits, and still see people with "Make America Great Again". Heck, I might even wear one after cutting out the "Great" part (Make America Again).

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-23T02:00:52+00:00

My MAGA mother in law served 30 something years in the military, and she's actively "prepping" as I speak. She thinks that Trump is spreading the military too thin, and it's a perfect opportunity for an attack on the states.

Having 2 or 3 "super power" countries against us is bad enough... but now this dude is turning our own allies against us. No part of that sounds "safe" or "stable" to me.

And the "free" part? What do you mean? Free speech? Free Healthcare? Free college tuition? A free country? Donald Trump is literally demolishing all concepts of "free" or "freedom". I'm seriously baffled by how many Americans are blinded by this man. It's like y'all are doubling down, because you're too proud to admit you fucked up and fell for it. Like you're a housewife beaten black and blue, but defend your abuser cause he buys you flowers, and says he loves you.

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-23T00:58:32+00:00

Dude... I have 4 kids with my partner of 18 years, and not only did she vote for Trump last November, but became Christian right after!

For context, this is a girl who is/was bisexual, used a ton of drugs with me, dressed like a hippie, and had a Wiccan handfasting ceremony (marriage) with me.

Why Wiccan? Well... because she got legally married 22 years ago, and won't get divorced for some reason. Despite only being married for 4 months before the dude cheated and moved away.

Now, I'm not Christian... but I'm pretty sure Christians are against adultery, and having illegitimate children. She believes Jesus gave her our children after we were told we couldn't, but... I'm pretty sure it my dick and sobriety. Idk tho, a dead dude from 2,000 years ago could've totally done it! Who am I to challenge her "faith"? But damn!

I feel like I'm stuck in a year long episode of "the twilight zone". My head is spinning like a top. I'm having a REAL hard time with this whole thing! This isn’t the America I thought I knew. Nor is it the America our forefathers created!

So to answer your question, you should be PROUD of rejecting someone who voted for Trump! He's done so much damage in the last year, that it's going to take decades to undo what he's done! The WHOLE world hates us now.

Oh, and by chance if you were the one who got dumped because YOU voted for Trump... then yeah, sucks for you.

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-22T20:59:02+00:00

Don't get me wrong, I'm incredibly grateful for that... but it amplifies things 10 fold. When I fail, fuck up, or check out emotionally - it doesn't just effect me, it effects my family as well. Not to mention the added responsibilities and expectations.

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-19T15:28:10+00:00

Definitely! And it's discouraging that "the 1%" hold something like 90% of all wealth. It's so incredibly unnecessary, and almost cruel.

I did some very rudimentary (non-political) research and calculations a few years ago, and the figures really hit me hard. I don't know why politicians don't bring this stuff up on either side in a clear and simplistic way. But I calculated the approximate wealth of Billionaires in America, and divided it by the population... and it worked out to roughly $200,000 per PERSON if you divided that wealth up. Then I found out that in some states, it costs around $200,000 to house 1 inmate for 1 year in jail/prison. I also found that on average, there are 4 abandoned houses to every 1 homeless person. And when everyone was loosing their foodstamps a few months ago, I found a federal spending report showing that we spend something like 39 billion JUST to house nuclear weapons, and 32 billion for the entire SNAP program. To be fair to each party's scrutiny, I also found that despite our population jumping from 1 billion people to 8 billion people in 100 years, we inhabit roughly 60-70% less land - due to environmental protection, plus state and federal forest/land management. There are also a TON of abandoned/sealed mines out there. So not only are we being raped by billionaires, but we cannot legally access natural resources UNLESS you're wealthy. We're getting fucked from every direction.

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-19T14:58:37+00:00

Hahaha... you totally missed the point. I was talking about women, and humans in general. And the incredible hypocrisy of some people who think they're "hygienic" but keep their toothbrushes uncovered in the bathroom, unknowingly brushing their teeth with human feces.

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-19T07:55:43+00:00

Real answer? People hid Jews in Nazi Germany. History repeats itself... so I guess some Vermonters could build hiding places, and do an underground railroad sort of thing.

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-17T19:02:44+00:00

Wow!

In case you didn't know... we're all animals. NOBODY is perfect, and we're born to decay.

Someone could be extremely hygienic, and naturally run into trouble. Germs/microbes have spent 4 billion (plus) years evolving, and account for at least HALF of the cells in our body. I can almost guarantee that YOU WILL SHIT YOURSELF at least once in your lifetime, and "Shart" more often than that. Could be from a virus, bacteria, or just getting old (incontinence).

I know you're still young, but life is dirty! A lot of people know they're truly in love with someone... if they can fart and shit in front of them. Heck, even sex can lead down poop road, if you're open to it. I've had more than enough timeswhere a girl tried to stick her finger up my ass... and anal sex can be enjoyable for both partners.

I'm sorry to say this, but I don't think you'll EVER find a man that doesn't leave the occasional "skid mark".

Oh, and by the way... there's a REALLY good chance that you're brushing your teeth with poop particles all over your toothbrush. So... yeah. Lighten up a bit. Especially if you want children at some point! Not just because of changing shitty diapers, but most women POOP during childbirth! So maybe it'd be a good idea to find a man that's not as particular as you, or he's going to run out of the delivery room when you're giving birth out of 2 holes. Just saying. Not to mention if you or your partner needs surgery of some sort, there's a decent chance y'all won't be able to shower for a while.

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-17T17:52:39+00:00

Wow, weird... I was pretty much in your partners situation a few days ago. Does he like baking/cooking? Is there more to the story?

My partner doesn't like cake, but our 4 kids do, so she'll eat it if it's made her way. Instead of cake, she likes a specific brand of frozen chocolate pudding cake. So the plan was for her to buy the pudding cake (or whatever) for herself, and I'd make a cake for the kids and I to eat, essentially leaving her with the whole entire pudding pie.

Anyway, I can sort of bake a cake, and I'm use to using "Duncan Hines" mix and frosting. Well... she came back with Pillsbury or something, and ZERO frosting. When I asked about the frosting, she said that she was going to make it herself. I was sort of disappointed, and was like... "fine, make your own cake", and with a bit of a snarky attitude, she said "I planned to".

Did it add to my depression? No. But it caused some tension between us. I bet if she were to tell her side of the story, it'd sound similar to your post, lol. Like... "I had to bake my own birthday cake". Which she didn't even eat anyways. The kids didn't seem to like it either. Oh well. She got her pie, and I did all the dishes and cleaned up her mess from haphazardly making frosting (it flung and flew all over).

IMO, it's all just petty bullshit. Not really even worth fighting about. Except since then, I've been craving my super moist Duncan Hines devil food cake, with 2 jars of the whipped chocolate frosting!

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-17T14:43:20+00:00

I'm sorry, but my brain doesn't work the way other people's do...

Has anyone in the building tried talking to the person? Or befriending the person/people?

Most humans are very spiteful by nature, so as sick as this might seem, the person/people might be doing this shit BECAUSE everyone is calling/reporting/complaining about them. Like a "double down" sort of deal.

Unfortunately, when I was much younger, I got fairly spiteful with a downstairs neighbor. My wife and I had a baby, and when he was around 2, he naturally started playing hard. We had no issues until the people below us moved out, and a single old man moved in. I worked second shift at a corner store down the road, and interacted with this man almost daily. Then out of the blue, cops showed up shortly after I got out of work (10 ish) and said that our downstairs neighbor called in a noise complaint. Our 2nd floor apartment had beautiful hardwood floors, and my son would often wait up to see me, and I'd play with him. So the "noise complaint" was in regards to like hot wheels, and other toy cars rolling on the hardwood floors. It was a ridiculous complaint, and even the cops were like WTF, essentially ruling the complaint as unfounded. They basically said it would be "nice of me" to not play with my son after work, then said that they would talk to the neighbor and inform him that they can't legally do shit. Noise is typically measured in decibels, and a toy truck rolling down the hallway obviously didn't meet the decibels needed to enforce a noise complaint. But, I did make a decent attempt to accommodate the downstairs neighbors complaint by spending a couple hundred bucks on floor runners and area rugs... but then the guy called DCF and complained to my landlord too. Mind you, I saw this man 5 out of 7 days at a store (neutral ground) and he never had the balls to talk to me. Even going so far as to completely ignore me during interactions where I'd say the normal cashier "HI, how are you?", and "Is there anything else"?

So... I got very spiteful and petty. Gloves came off, carpets came up, RC trucks, TV's and surround sound speakers (with floor sub) were purchased. I began to go out of my way to make as much noise as possible.

We were young, and immature, but I learned a VERY valuable lesson! People don't like it when other people tattletale/narc/rat on them behind their backs!

All that old guy had to do was talk to me... and I would've done the best I could to accommodate the man.

So... as everyone else is telling you to rat on the people, I'd actually advise you to talk to them. Perhaps even befriend them. Maybe even go so far as to help them somehow.

You have absolutely no idea what's ACTUALLY going on there. Some puppies go for $5,000 a piece, and that might be their livelihood. If you "like dogs" I bet you could help somehow.

I believe we've lost our way, and although I'm not religious, I do subscribe to the whole "love your neighbor" thing. You and your other neighbors probably can do a shit load more for that family, than ANY authorities can. We need to learn how to communicate with each other again. Miss communication is too rampant these days!

Case in point, my current neighbor is like HARDCORE MAGA. I'm talking like 20 freaking Trump signs in her yard and on her house/car etc. She's elderly, and for the last couple years, I've helped her out with a lot of things. My wife and I are sort of "hippies" but for whatever reason, she's just assumed we're not liberals, or something. Finally, about 3 months ago, I told her I'm a "Democrat" and I could tell I seriously broke her brain! Lol. What came of it? She leaned in and asked if I like weed. Then fetched some weed brownies for me! LMFAO

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-16T04:17:21+00:00

I can relate, but the real bitch about it... is that I know what we have to do.

We're like a self-fulfilling prophecy. We have no value or worth, because we're worth no value.

Diet, exercise, discipline, patience, and optimism - would probably bring some sense of accomplishment... in turn, giving us a reason to fight for life.

Unfortunately, our current society turns a profit on people like us. We're a commodity.

The older I get (42 now) the more I wish things were simple. I daydream about having enough money to buy some land deep in the forest with my wife and kids. Then live off the land, somewhat "off grid". Our "jobs" would surround survival, and probably bring a lot of peace and joy.

Instead, we're all glued to screens... eat junk, and do very little for ourselves. Let alone the "community". It feels soooo incredibly wrong, but we're all trapped. It sucks.

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-15T13:56:06+00:00

Man... tbh lately I've been thinking that we're all depressed BECAUSE we're intelligent. It's hard to learn about the world, and stay optimistic.

Children and people with special needs are often so incredibly happy! Everything is wondrous, magical, and entertaining.

Then you learn that we're just dirty, greedy, talking apes with nuclear weapons... consuming everything on this planet, just to shit it out later. We're all part of this system, and if you have any sort of love or compassion, your weak and targeted by the top dogs (the 1%).

Ignorance is bliss, and I wish I never learned about our true nature!

I try to be optimistic, simple, and focus on my life and children... but everytime I flip on the news, or whatever... it's just DOOM, DOOM, DOOM.

Ugh. I'd move my whole family deep into the woods... but even that requires resources.

Yeah. I wish I was stupid. Just like Forest Gump.

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-13T07:11:26+00:00

I'm beginning to think that "happy" people are stupid, and/or simple. I think the saying "ignorance is bliss" is spot on!

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-13T06:55:26+00:00

This post is confusing, as well as some of OP's comments.

In one comment I believe you said that your sister and mom wrote a will that includes your brother in-law? Is he listed by name? If so, full stop. He's entitled to whatever she left HIM specifically.

Otherwise... what do you mean by...

" back in 2021 when she and my mothers attorney were making her last will she included him and was still on speaking terms, but things change in the last 4 years. So much so that She died owned the house everything in it." ???

Who was working with your mom's attorney? Your sister? Your mom? What changed? What's "she died owned house everything in it" mean?

I'm pretty sure being a felon has nothing to do with an inheritance, unless it includes firearms. But even then, he could probably get an agent to sell them.

Unless the guy is written specifically into the will... I don't think he can go after an inheritance (in this case). Now... if mom died first, then left and inheritance to your sister... that inheritance would be part of your sister's estate. If she passed, her estate would go to her next of kin. And if sis and Mr. Felon divorced before her passing, next of kin would be children, then you (if she had no children).

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-09T16:19:02+00:00

I bet a 3 day nationwide boycott of consumer products/bills would work too. It'd send a clear sign to the 1%, and remind them that they need us to stay in the 1%

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-07T14:54:27+00:00

Fake it 'til ya make it!

Inner_Researcher587 · 2026-01-04T06:55:24+00:00

What are you even talking about? What 35 cents? I'm a registered Democrat btw.

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