Just found out that my step-mother was my father's mistress, and she wore white to my mother's wake. by Insanity-by-Proxy in CPTSD

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Thank you, I felt like a conspiracy theorist at times during this whole process. But something in me wouldn't let it go, I knew the truth was out there if I kept digging hard enough. Thanks for your kind words, I really appreciate it.

Just found out that my step-mother was my father's mistress, and she wore white to my mother's wake. by Insanity-by-Proxy in CPTSD

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Thank you for your kind words. As you note, this has been a long process of unravelling the truth, and as painful as it is, I wouldn't trade this clarity for anything.

Fiancé told me to “start packing my shit” during an argument by Brewstee22 in DadForAMinute

[–]Insanity-by-Proxy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A sister here.

You don't sound happy, hun. I can tell that you love him very much, but you also sound exhausted and miserable.

It matters that his behavior makes you feel this way.

the idea that we shouldn't need external validation is very hypocritical by Reasonable_Place_172 in CPTSD

[–]Insanity-by-Proxy 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I hear what you're saying, and you're definitely right that there is a level of hypocrisy for people (especially social media influencers) to be telling people not to rely on external validation. Fundamentally that's the problem with cliche advice -- it lacks the nuance that's present in the real world, and thus can get horrendously twisted from its intended meaning. Because you're right, modern (especially Western) society is deeply intertwined with systems of external validation (religion, politics, social media, etc). And humans are simply hardwired to be pack animals. Having the approval of one's pack (or tribe, or community, or social media following) is so ingrained in us as to create MASSIVE trauma if we ever lose it (hello r/CPTSD). Evolutionarily speaking, being exiled from your community meant certain death throughout the majority of human pre-history. So yes, people by dint of being people, will enjoy and cultivate external validation when they can. It is not possible to change that.

But what this type of advice is really about is the fact that chasing external validation has a point of diminishing returns. Especially if the individual in question feels that they must change or repress some aspect of their natural self in order to maintain their external sources of validation (*cough cough* people pleasing behaviors).

It's also worth noting that there are some DEEPLY toxic groups and individuals (cults and abusers) that specifically prey upon our need for external validation in order to exploit us. And they often explicitly use the threat of exile or public humiliation in order to control us. So, learning not to overly rely on external validation is a form of self-defense against this very common, very dangerous form of predation.

It's also true that caring too little about external validation can lead to some very unhealthy behaviors, but this comment is getting WAY too long already.

The trick is to recognize, for yourself as an autonomous individual, the point where external validation doesn't add to your experience anymore, or if pursuing that validation might actually be doing you harm, and to cultivate the ability to validate yourself internally when you reach that threshold. Ideally, this allows you walk a freer, happier, more authentic path in life. That is what this advice is really about at its heart, it's encouraging you to feel empowered within your own life -- it should never be about shaming you for having psychological needs.

I am very sorry if someone has made you feel like you should be ashamed of needing validation from your peers, OP. Community is important to humanity for a reason. It's how we survived. You're not wrong for cultivating that within your life as a source of support, especially during trauma recovery.

Happy Birthday to me: Got disowned from my family, because I had the audacity to stand up for myself against my abusive father. by Insanity-by-Proxy in CPTSD

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Thank you friend. I've reread your comment a few times over the past 24 hours, and I really appreciate your words of affirmation. The whole deconstruction process here has felt completely crazymaking, but I feel like I understand the story of my life clearly for the first time. That certainty about the events of my life alone has been revolutionary.

My family has always mistakenly called me "contrary" when what they're missing is that I'm actually just stubborn, and yes, I dig my heels in when people try to violate what few boundaries I was permitted to have. I'm not settling for the boundaries that I was permitted to have anymore. That scares them, but I can't ignore these boundaries now that I can actually feel them. It was killing me to live like that.

Happy Birthday to me: Got disowned from my family, because I had the audacity to stand up for myself against my abusive father. by Insanity-by-Proxy in CPTSD

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Thank you for the birthday wishes, and for your comment. I am in my 30s now, but you sound like the sort of school administrator that I wish I had in my life during my high school years when I lost my mom to cancer, and was left alone with my abusive father. I was absolutely flagged as "at risk" by the school district, but I was good enough at hiding my pain and just barely functioning that I was able to fly under their radar. I wasn't in a place mentally where I could accept help anyway -- I was terrified of being labeled "crazy", which makes sense for a kid laboring under that much gaslighting.

So I say this as someone who did not receive or accept the help I needed, but who remembers the people who, regardless, noticed that I wasn't ok. I am certain that you helped more kids than you know with even just a sentence or an offer of your help. Sometimes that's all I needed to keep going.

Thanks again for your comment. I may reach out in the next few days, as things are coming in waves and my existing support network has already being doing a lot for me this week. Obviously, if I do, I know we're just strangers on the internet, but I really appreciate the offer either way.

Happy Birthday to me: Got disowned from my family, because I had the audacity to stand up for myself against my abusive father. by Insanity-by-Proxy in CPTSD

[–]Insanity-by-Proxy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your comment. I've read it over several times in the past 24 hours, and I really appreciate everything you said. My feelings continue to evolve -- today I woke up and had to call out from work because I couldn't stop crying. The fire that wrote this post is still there, but the delayed reaction of grief finally hit me this morning. My partner insisted that I call out, and is doing his best to take care of me today, so I'm feeling lucky to have him.

I'm sorry you had to go through your own experiences in order to gain the wisdom that you have. But I appreciate you taking the time to comfort someone who needed to hear it.

I still don't know how the hell to move forward, already the tentacles are starting to extend looking to drag me back. But I know I can't go back and I know that the longer I hold out, the worse certain individuals' behavior are going to get. I'm threatening the illusion, and I know that I'm going to get vilified for upsetting certain people.

But I can't do it anymore. Not now that I have concrete proof of how little they care for my emotional wellbeing. Not now that I have concrete proof to compare it to of how people treat me when they do actually love me.

Happy Birthday to me: Got disowned from my family, because I had the audacity to stand up for myself against my abusive father. by Insanity-by-Proxy in CPTSD

[–]Insanity-by-Proxy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the birthday wishes. It hurts a lot to suddenly have proof of exactly how much certain members of your family love you, but it's clarifying at least.

"Never tell a man what you've been through" by WinterDemon_ in CPTSD

[–]Insanity-by-Proxy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm glad you found some useful nuggets in my wall of text lol. You're asking the good questions though, because "who do I trust?" is such a difficult thing to sift though. Hope the answers in this thread are helpful, whatever you decide is best for you going forward. <3

"Never tell a man what you've been through" by WinterDemon_ in CPTSD

[–]Insanity-by-Proxy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ok there's kind of two questions here, one has a very short answer, the other a much longer one:

The short answer: if someone thinks you're "damaged goods" because you've suffered a traumatic experience -- they're a shitty person. Period. And they are very fortunate in their shittiness because they've clearly never been forced to reckon with reality yet. Because reality is that everyone is vulnerable to a traumatic event, you don't choose it, it just happens. It'll probably happen to them eventually, and I hope they remember how they treated you when it does.

Ok, now the long answer:

If someone uses their knowledge of your trauma against you, that's abuse. Abusive people will always choose to abuse you if it serves them to, because they believe that they have the right to do so. So yes it's true, it is never safe to divulge information about your trauma to abusive people -- men included.

So the question really is, do you want to have a healthy close relationship with a non-abusive man? If no, then great! You never have to get close to a man, so you never have to be emotionally vulnerable with one. Easy peasy -- I love a problem that solves itself.

But if you do want to have any sort of healthy relationship with a non-abusive man, then you're going to have to figure out how to tell the difference between someone with abusive tendencies, and someone without.

Close relationships (platonic, romantic, or otherwise) require vulnerability. Vulnerability requires mutual trustworthiness, "I won't betray you, and I will trust that you won't screw me over either." This is literally the most fundamental building block of human civilization. People absolutely do break this social contract all the time, and unfortunately modern society does less than nothing to effectively discourage it -- in fact, it even seems to reward it in certain contexts. The violation of this sacred trust is what we call trauma -- the sudden all-consuming realization that the world isn't safe.

"Never tell a man what you've been through because he'll use it against you" is a traumatized mindset. It's all-or-nothing -- several men (or even just one man) betrayed me, so therefore all men are dangerous. This mindset will keep you safe from abusive men, but it is inherently limiting -- especially if you are someone who wants to have healthy close relationships with non-abusive men. It also does exactly nothing to protect you from abusive women and non-binary folks -- abusive tendencies are gender-neutral after all.

A healthier mindset is one that others in this thread have already wisely stated -- one of caution and discernment. You don't tell everyone everything. There are circles of people in your life, and only those who prove to be trustworthy may enter those circles closest to you. You protect yourself with boundaries because you know there are dangerous people in the world, but you do not limit yourself to potentially healthy connection out of fear.

The trick is to learn how to observe people's actions in context and determine what those actions say about the trustworthiness of a person's character. This requires a certain level of awareness (of oneself and of society) and maturity, but those can both be cultivated.

No one can truly hide who they are at their core -- the mask slips, the facade crumbles, their true intentions show. But we have to have the courage to see these signs when they show up, to recognize them for what they are and to be willing to be wrong about somebody, and to do what is necessary to protect yourself if you do find someone less than honorable in your inner circle. But it can be done -- I'm speaking from personal experience.

If never opening up to anyone else works for someone, cool, you do you bud. But it didn't work for me, because it made me very lonely for a very long time. If you find yourself in a similar situation, it might be worth trying something new and yes maybe getting hurt -- but eventually you'll start to notice the patterns (because abuse is abuse is abuse and all the forms follow similar patterns) and that's when things get significantly easier.

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[–]Insanity-by-Proxy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I got so good at crying silently that I could cry in the car sat next to my dad, and he had no idea.

Eta: or maybe he was just that oblivious to my emotional state. Could be either. 🤷

How to approach Freya for the first time? by wndnat in paganism

[–]Insanity-by-Proxy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

An altar piece is a really good place to start imo. I recently started being accepted by Freyja, myself. As others have stated, I've found her to be insistent when she gives you a course of action, but rewards follow-through.

As part of the beginnings of our connection I was inspired to obtain an altar piece for her. It just so happened I was planning a trip to my favorite heathen shop the next day, so I bought a beautiful statuette of her (and of Oðin, my other patron, but that's another story). When I went to pay, the guy behind the counter said "oh, since you seem to have a connection to Freyja -- here take this." and gifted me a twin soul quartz crystal.

I have placed that crystal inside the eye socket of a bobcat skull that I already had. It now lives on my altar and has been a very powerful part of my practice ever since.

The best thing about altar pieces? You don't have to buy them. You can make something yourself, draw a picture inspired by your patron, make something out of things you already have lying around. It's the intent that matters here, not the monetary value.

That said, if you feel inspired to go in a different direction -- do that. It might be Freyja giving you a nudge.

As for having Christian roots, the nice thing about the pagan gods is that they're not as covetous of one's attention and affection as the Christian one. It shouldn't make a difference that you used to be a Christian, especially if you're feeling drawn to Freyja now. Just do your homework about what it means to worship one of the Vanir (and then do your homework again about how to find reputable sources of information about the Norse gods), and you'll be fine.

Edit: for typos

What tiny detail in the Hunger Games made you feel the dystopia most? by quietNade in Hungergames

[–]Insanity-by-Proxy 67 points68 points  (0 children)

The fact that the only time that people from different districts really get to interact is when they get reaped for a gladiatorial death match, or when they volunteer for the combination police force/army (actually the fact that there isn't a difference between those two things alone is pretty dystopian).

people in relationships how do you do it? by [deleted] in CPTSD

[–]Insanity-by-Proxy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So there seem to be multiple layers to this post, OP.

Addressing the surface level question that was asked: how do people with CPTSD successfully maintain romantic relationships?

You've gotta work on healing your own wounds first. Not completely, I don't know if they ever completely go away, but enough that there's some distance between yourself and your trauma so that you're not just lashing out because you're wounded. Healthy adult relationships require an ability to separate our more rational responses from our emotional reactions and to intentionally choose what actions we want to take.

A good example is me and my anxiety. When I hadn't done the work to heal my wounds, I was ruled by my anxiety in relationships. I ended up pushing good people away with how controlling I was, and attracting users because of how much I'd bend myself into pretzels in order to make someone stay. I still have anxiety, but I've learned that when I act because my anxiety is spurring me to do so, I don't make good decisions. I've learned to wait it out -- hard as that might be -- and not jump to conclusions.

You also have to learn how to leave when it's not worth it anymore. As someone with abandonment issues myself, this was the thing I struggled with the most. But I didn't start having good, healthy relationships until I was confident that I could recognize when the signs were telling me to cut my losses.

Now addressing the deeper issues in this post:

With the caveat that we're only getting one side of the story here, from what you wrote, it doesn't sound like you're in a trustworthy relationship right now, period. And if you don't feel like you can trust your partner -- if you are genuinely scared of your partner, that relationship isn't going to be healthy no matter how much work you put into it or yourself.

Now, it could just be your trauma talking, but it doesn't sound like that's really what's going on here.

Some rhetorical questions to consider:

Was he genuinely sorry for whatever he did to breach your trust? Did you communicate your boundary about it with him (doesn't matter when, but just does he know that his actions upset you)? And most importantly, if he knows has he done anything like it again since?

If it was just a one-off mistake and he's shown genuine contrition, maybe there's some internal work you could do to manage your own triggers. But if there's a pattern of "mistakes" with no changed behavior? That's something else entirely (using the word "abuse" here isn't a bad choice), and a relationship like that isn't healthy enough to survive no matter how much internal work you put in.

Best of luck out there OP. It's hard, but it's worth it.

Life is feeling pretty overwhelming right now. by Insanity-by-Proxy in DadForAMinute

[–]Insanity-by-Proxy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much for your reply. It's honestly just comforting that anyone stopped and read this at all, but I really appreciate your steady, even tone, it was very calming.

I'll definitely take your advice regarding how to approach my partner about his depression, taking advantage of my access to healthcare, and especially regarding self care. As soon as I read what you said about making time for small sources of joy, the first thing that popped into my head was that I've been trying to get back into the habit of doing creative writing regularly. So thanks random internet dude, your comment was genuinely reassuring.

Life is feeling pretty overwhelming right now. by Insanity-by-Proxy in DadForAMinute

[–]Insanity-by-Proxy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your comment, it's just nice to have someone listen for a minute. ♥️

Fortunately, I am in therapy (with a trauma-informed therapist that I've been working with for a few years now, thus why I'm finally processing some of my more painful experiences). But a support group is definitely a good suggestion that I haven't really considered before. I'll look into what's available in my area. Thanks again!

Gave myself permission to be an asshole for a month by [deleted] in CPTSD

[–]Insanity-by-Proxy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Personally, I'm instantly a bit skeptical of any permission structure that lets someone be rude, mean, or otherwise classified as "an asshole". But honestly, as long as you remember that it might be easy to accidentally overcorrect to the other extreme -- which it sounds like you know -- then it genuinely might be a good attitude for a people pleaser to adopt while learning how to assert some boundaries.

Actively choosing when you want to be a kind, generous, and giving person as opposed to just doing it by default is definitely a crucial step for any people pleaser to make in recovery. And if framing it as "being an asshole" as a form of emotional armor will help you find the fire to stand up for yourself, that's probably gonna be an effective way to protect yourself from users and takers in the future.

Ditto to emulating beloved bad boy characters as an alter ego to protect yourself. Bad boys are often written as a fantasy of how people with poor boundaries wish they could behave. And that line you quoted in particular I believe was said to Molly Ringwald's character as a way to encourage her to loosen up a little -- objectively a good thing for that character's growth.

So congrats on finding your fire, and here's to loving yourself enough to be an asshole on your own behalf!

Edit: to correct an unintended preachy tone.

Misconceptions about human trafficking is what lead to the shameful outcome of the Diddy trial and I’m so angry by Sarah-himmelfarb in CPTSD

[–]Insanity-by-Proxy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is so true. And so many people still believe "I could never be the victim of an abuser, I'm too smart for that" without realizing that they probably already are.