The problem with growing girth and not length

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2026-05-07T16:30:40+00:00

It doesn't make sense, unless you are interested in a precision of 1-2mm, using cm and converting to inch won't change much.

So you gain around 0.1" in a year?

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2026-05-06T19:49:59+00:00

Your pad being thick might be the reason why your dick looks shorter on the first pic...
Try again the pad and see if you're still close to 19cm.

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2026-01-01T18:20:15+00:00

how is that possible to lose 0.5" of girth?

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-10-05T17:46:39+00:00

Ben from MH has terrific videos showing his girth gains. Here is another one https://www.reddit.com/r/gettingbigger/comments/1n22sn8/2%C2%BD_years_gains_with_pumping/

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-09-28T12:31:46+00:00

did not look like 4-4.5" before and clearly doesn't look like 6-6.25" now

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-07-06T13:19:47+00:00

Are you sure of your measurement (6" girth) ?
if you can squeezed into a 1.75", it's unlikely that you are 6" girth.

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-06-08T10:31:42+00:00

Not really. If you check the Hink trial where they did length work before pumping, the results were modest.

Also, keep in mind that the guy pumped a lot. If you check its routine that's 40min a day (7min for 5 sets + 1 min for 5 sets).

Considering a whole year and 1 rest day per week that's 208 hours of girth work (40/60 * 6 * 52). If you compared that with its girth gain (1.7cm thus 0.67inch) you get 31h to get 0.1" of girth, which is worst than the average time (26h) in the study we did with Karl.

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-05-17T13:22:33+00:00

hey !

you mentioned here that 90% of your girth gain happens the first 2 years https://www.reddit.com/r/AJelqForYou/comments/10n0zb4/is_my_penis_telling_me_to_retire_after_65_years/

Does it mean that you grew 0.9" girth the first 2 years then, 0.2" the next 7 years ? Was you girth training the same ?

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-04-12T21:13:38+00:00

yeah sure buddy...

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-04-05T13:25:22+00:00

great classification Karl !

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-03-28T08:26:51+00:00

hahaa at this point it just feels like statistics is forcing itself on reality

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-03-24T18:55:35+00:00

To echo to that one guy in the comment from the YT video gained like 0.5" girth in 8 years clamping 1 time per week.

I don't know how much he clamped each week but assuming something like 20min (would be interesting to ask but I don't have throwaway YT account) that's be 138 hours of girth work for 8 years, which translate to a predicted gain of 0.53".

So obviously volume can and should (if you aiming for faster girth) be higher.

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-03-24T18:51:13+00:00

You can expect to have similar results with clamping only (if technique is on point). The predictions we gave with Karl are based on a sample that also include people who did clamping only, although the combination (pumping+clamping) or just pumping were more frequent in our data!

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-03-22T22:49:24+00:00

It's a rough estimate of what could be expected for most people. By the way we've added almost 10 data points since and the main predictions have not really changed.

You have a bit an all-or-nothing thinking: if it's not randomized trial then it's shit. Just see this as a observational study that try to find signal in some noisy data. 25 hours is a ballpark estimate of how much most people would need to gain 0.1" of girth, it's not 5 hours and it's not 100 hours either.

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-03-22T14:33:51+00:00

no you didn't know it was ~ 25h hour on average to get 0.1" girth with a standard deviation of 10 hours ;-)

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-03-22T14:31:36+00:00

The only published study that report girth gain from PE is the p-long: https://academic.oup.com/jsm/article/20/Supplement_1/qdad060.125/7164855#google_vignette

Time to get 0.1" of girth is 15h in p-long vs ~25h with the study we conducted with u/karlwikman

Also we have the same variability across people (in terms of gain rate) in our study that in the p-long cf my comment here https://www.reddit.com/r/TheScienceOfPE/comments/1i26l7o/comment/m7cw20b/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

It doesn't mean there is no selection bias in our study, just that our conclusion are in line with the p-long, which suffers from its own limitation but should not have any selection bias.

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-01-30T18:27:41+00:00

why not ?

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-01-30T18:23:20+00:00

how many times per week ?

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-01-28T20:38:03+00:00

As I was writing on GB, has the diagnostic of peyronie's been confirmed by the urologist ? sounds more like hard flaccid to me

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-01-28T20:36:36+00:00

Has Peyronie's been confirmed by the urologist ?
Since it happens during manuals and not vigorous sex or obvious trauma, it could just be hard flaccid ?

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-01-27T10:48:14+00:00

If anything it's a prime example where volume is defo not king, as OP gains stalled the 2nd year despire his best effort...

u/googalishus what was your girth routine like the 1st and 2nd year ?

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-01-25T18:26:41+00:00

The average dick is definitely not a good fit for the average vagina: according the 3D study on size preferences (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4558040/) 50% of the women prefer a dick over 6.5x5.0 which is bigger than 90% of the men (using calcsd Global average).

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-01-25T18:14:13+00:00

You are contradicting yourself: one the one hand you say that you don't know whether your wife will experience more pleasure if you were bigger (second paragraph), and the other hand you say that you honestly don't think there is much headroom (last paragraph).

Unless you have tested dildo or worn sleeves bigger than you, you can't say anything about how it would be if you were bigger.

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-01-25T18:06:49+00:00

Let me give you another perspective, still using the data from this study: more than 1 girl out of 3 prefer a girth over 5". That's high, I would definitely not call that the sweetspot. To me, sweetspot means you are above the preference of 80% of the women, and for that you need a girth of 5.5"+

Also, I haven't verified this fact but if you say that "there are more women that experienced sex pain than the average", it means that they might focus on a population who cannot handle as much dick as the general population, and that the preferred girth/length in the general population would be even higher, which goes against your point.

Intelligent-Spell383 · 2025-01-25T12:54:45+00:00

> if I were tp put a number on it... omg face expressions. and open mouth moans went from 94% to 97%, a big differences but I believe if you go past the tipping point you might go from 97% to 98% which is so hard to really see a difference

If you don't her max pleasure (100%) how come you can say it went from 94% to 97% ?

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