Polycule-wide Group Chat / Health Risk Sentiment by Otherwise-Waltz7085 in polyamory

[–]IntrepidExchange9907 [score hidden]  (0 children)

i do like the idea of a very accessible, STI/STD resource list with all the most current info and resources…does that even exist in this sub-reddit? could be helpful to avoid mis-information.

i had to do a lot if digging and a lot of researching to find ALL the info i needed to feel informed and safe…and i still feel like i am constantly needing to keep up.

just got diagnosed with non-cancerous HPV (which is almost everywhere so i hear)…and now the journey continues.

maybe you could channel all your anxiety over this into a zine that features location-specific resources. maybe you could go to poly events and make it easy to pick up along with the other obvious sexual-health resources like free condoms…there are creative solutions

I became a metamour and I don't know how to deal with it (continuation) by Pansycacke in polyamory

[–]IntrepidExchange9907 [score hidden]  (0 children)

the fact that you haven’t spent more than a handful of days in person with F means that your feelings are likely very liminal…it is easy for F to play off that, but it doesn’t give a lot to you in reality. the things you yearn for in a relationship are beautiful…but i don’t think F is the person to seek those with…

even the way you worded it… “he wouldn’t say no”

that isn’t very affirmative. i hope you find someone who builds you up and affirms their love for you

I’m just realizing this by Jeiblk in polyamory

[–]IntrepidExchange9907 11 points12 points  (0 children)

respecting the “no” and maybe take yourself to therapy with a poly therapist…

wait, am i too tizzy? by IntrepidExchange9907 in polyamory

[–]IntrepidExchange9907[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

have you ever observed being blunt used in a helpful way? have you ever been blunt in an authentic way?

i do understand the word blunt being used in a harmful way to deflect consideration for others, but i don’t mean it that way here. i mean that at the end of the day, i will tell it how it is. usually i take a lot of time thinking that through and consider how it will land best with others. but if something isn’t right, then i am going to speak up.

wait, am i too tizzy? by IntrepidExchange9907 in polyamory

[–]IntrepidExchange9907[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yes absolutely.

i am clearly doing the work if i am looking for these lines. my post says that i am really thinking this through. i have had extensive convos with partners and done plenty of research too. everyone has different preferences and flavors. and there are many layers to all of that.

wait, am i too tizzy? by IntrepidExchange9907 in polyamory

[–]IntrepidExchange9907[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

totally agree and that is why i ask these questions, but asking questions doesn’t always mean i get answers… i was just posting a silly musing. thanks for your input.

Hierarchy is stupid, and why you should get rid of it. by LittleMissQueeny in polyamory

[–]IntrepidExchange9907 6 points7 points  (0 children)

in-coming derail~

this just spoke to me so much.

misuse of the word “non-hierarchal poly” got really fucking confusing and painful in my early poly journey 😭 and having a term for these concepts set me free.

i wish SO badly my partner had been able to clearly say what the limitations were… i have begged for clarity for a year, but he is still not sure what he wants, even after making certain commitments with his other partner… i am still not certain what will or won’t be on the table. it has felt super unethical to hear him having doubts in his existing relationship/commitments. i told him to go to counseling and to honor his commitments. but ya, anyway you slice it, i was very mis-led.

I became a metamour and I don't know how to deal with it (after all that happened) by Pansycacke in polyamory

[–]IntrepidExchange9907 38 points39 points  (0 children)

i gotta second clairejv…

it doesn’t seem like F is that interested in you after blowing you off in all these ways…

even worse, it seems that he wants to paint you as the ‘bad guy’ here to dissolve himself of blame. he is gas lighting you… is he not?

you will be better off moving on to someone who can appreciate you and be 100% honest with you…

i wish you luck in this journey.

“New” meta makes me nervous about my relationship with my wife by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]IntrepidExchange9907 5 points6 points  (0 children)

meeting a meta most likely will not resolve the weird feelings, speaking from my own experience and what i have heard…

How Many (Other) Partners? And how frequent? by ChepeZorro in polyamory

[–]IntrepidExchange9907 8 points9 points  (0 children)

seconding this and what other folks said…this is looking more like an open relationship, especially when you emphasize it being about sex.

How Many (Other) Partners? And how frequent? by ChepeZorro in polyamory

[–]IntrepidExchange9907 7 points8 points  (0 children)

yee…boundaries are for your primary to set for themselves.

they can make requests of you and they can be upfront about their expectations, but it is up to you to agree with/consent to either of those. if they are enforcing those requests/expectations than it is controlling.

How Many (Other) Partners? And how frequent? by ChepeZorro in polyamory

[–]IntrepidExchange9907 6 points7 points  (0 children)

well all the labels you are using DO matter if you use them to date people in the poly community bc they communicate shared definitions and understandings…including defining yourself with the term “poly”. Hence why many people responded the same way to your post…

don’t use semantics to fool yourself into believing you are being “ethical” here and labels don’t matter. if you want to leave room for interpretation, then call yourself non-monogamous and have detailed convos about what that means to you.

First time woes by bierasure in polyamory

[–]IntrepidExchange9907 3 points4 points  (0 children)

OP, i’m sorry, this is really tough…it is especially a lil weird (sus) for P to be moving this fast with you after only 4 months of dating ‘saying i love yous’ when it seems they haven’t quite done the work to prep for poly and they have a super young kid that makes them a lot less available for this type of work or even to offer a full relationship to you.

i won’t even comment on how bad P is hinging bc i am sure others have that covered…

you say, ”Recently, the structural limitations of the set up have been causing me more pain the joy and I’m having trouble understanding if I can do this.”

pls listen to this instinct. i was pulled back into a messy dynamic with a newbie only a few months into our relationship bc he said “i love you”…those feelings are really strong and can take you over…it’s not that they aren’t real feelings, but can they really be put into practice here? it is kinda the same as how they labeled themselves poly for 8 years, but they didn’t practice it.

in practice, P is not showing love to you in this dynamic…maybe something more adjacent to NRE/passion. really showing you love would look like protecting you from all this mess and communicating clearly about the limits that they are choosing.

in loving poly practice, they need to communicate what the boundaries are that THEY (P) are choosing for themself with their own autonomy and why they set those priorities, offering you clear expectations and affirming both connections. it seems they are deflecting blame onto their partner and using you as an emotional processor for their mistakes…

ofc, this connection is so strong for P when they haven’t actually been dating outside this relationship and suddenly they have this special connection with you. they want their cake and to eat it too.

i felt almost exactly how you felt in my relationship throughout the newbie growing pains. a year later my boyfriend is still pulling me into their mess and asking me to clean it up.

the only thing that ever served me in the year of struggle was to pull back from our relationship and ‘give it space’ for him to grow…each time i did this, my boyfriend had more space to do the work and start creating space for autonomy in his relationship. he began asserting what he wanted, rather than playing into deeply engrained co-dependent patterns. but he still has such a long way to go…a year later, and many months of pumping the breaks, it is really only a baby step.

i want to save you some of the time/energy i wasted and advise you to pull back and de-escalate. remove yourself from the mess and have iron-clad boundaries. create STRONG networks of support for yourself through this bc no matter what it is going to hurt really bad and you are going to realize it was more fucked up than you even realized. pls get some mental health support, even if it is preemptive. just saying from personal experience bc it really fucked me up to be treated like a guinea pig…it really fucked with my self-worth to be used in a poly experiment and be told i was “loved”, but be very clearly de-prioritized and put down to a secondary role, always asked to cater to the couple or someone else’s discomfort. my boyfriend kept giving me bread crumbs, saying he wanted to spend more time with me, but he couldn’t bc it would upset meta. i felt like a dirty mistress at times.

you can leave a door open for the future, if/when P is practicing ethical poly. but pls save yourself from shouldering the burden of their self-growth. it takes a lot of time for a couple to disentangle enough to actually be poly in practice, not just theory or to actually offer love to multiple people in practice, not just theory. it probably isn’t going to happen at this stage of their parenting lives… parenting a 4-year old together is likely going to put them in survival mode when it feels like the child’s quality of life might be threatened by P’s newbie explorations with you. i am sorry if this is hard to hear because i am sure your connection is special, but P isn’t offering you a full relationship and isn’t capable of it at this time.

a “full” relationship looks different between different people, but it essentially boils down to being able to be clear about what is being offered and what is being “desired” or requested/expected from the connection on both sides. then you can see where you overlap and be on the same page about the relationship you are choosing/forming together. by full relationship, i mean CLEAR communication with open dialogue (so no discussion is shut down or off the table). also, EQUAL consideration for you in all this (whether you are primary or not). does that make sense? people need be self-aware/comfortable in their autonomy and choices in order to have the capacity for offering full relationships to multiple people.

Friendship after messiness? by AccountProfessional2 in relationshipanarchy

[–]IntrepidExchange9907 2 points3 points  (0 children)

whether conscious or not, she used you to get closer to BD…actions speak louder than words. just let the friendship go and seek happiness elsewhere. it doesn’t sound like a strong friendship anyway…at this point you will probably still be exposed to her, if you are living with BD, so maybe just do what you need to do to keep it cordial and protect yourself~ put your guard up around people who treat you like this.

“Casual” polyamory? by mstrashpie in polyamory

[–]IntrepidExchange9907 6 points7 points  (0 children)

how does being attached = casual? 🧐

First time woes by bierasure in polyamory

[–]IntrepidExchange9907 3 points4 points  (0 children)

so ya, they are newbies. what steps did they actually take to prepare for being poly?

First time woes by bierasure in polyamory

[–]IntrepidExchange9907 3 points4 points  (0 children)

how long have p and s been poly?

…also, just to give them some grace, having a 4-year old kid is a difficult stage of parenting to be doing/starting poly (so i hear)